air compressor

[SlagKing]

In case some of you missed it, here is my new toy. It is a Champion two stage, 80V. It's all orginal except for the paint and innertube diaphram. It was giving to me by my father in law because of my constant whining about my oilless 6 gallon noise maker. This compressor is super quiet and really makes the air.
Enjoy the Pic.

[Scott S]

Slag, Beautiful unit! Good luck with it.

[Franz]

Slag, that ain't Champion green, I own 2 Champions, and I know.
It does look very suspiciously close to John Deer green.

Where are you running an inner tube diaphram on that machine?

If you think it's quiet now, hook it up to outside air intake. Then you get to walk back to the shop to turn the compressor off cause you really can't hear it running. It's definitely pre 1970, and looks to be about 5 honest horsepower.

[SlagKing]

Hi Franz
Yeap, John Deere green.
Since I have two older John Deere's, that is a very common color around here. It was pretty close to that color anyway. When I got it, it was light gray. After using some cleaner, some of that gray came off and exposed a green almost the same as John Deere green, so thats my story and I'm sticking to it. My father in law got it over 30 years ago, and it was old then. I don't know what year it is, but all the tags are on it with the SSN's and Model. The motor is a Wagner.
The innertube diaphram is between the pipe that goes to the tank pressure gauge and the pressure switch. The pressure switch would be pushed by this innertube diaphram to shut off at set pressure. My father in law did the same as I did, and replaced the same diaphram about 20 years ago. Not bad for a almost freebie part.
As for sound, you are correct. The only real sound it makes is from the intake, and that is a relaxed quiet. putt putt putt.
I thought about sending the intake outside, but I like the sound it does make.
If you look close, you can see that the compressor sits on a "pedastal". I have not seen any other compressor sitting on one like it. Does any of your Champions have that. If so, what is it? I have opened up the motor covers and cleaned it out really good. The motor is built heavy and the parts in it about twice the size of any compressor I have seen before.
All I can really say is, this baby is really built and I really like it and I'm very thankful to my father in law for giving it to me. Why did he give it to me? He told me he bought a new one, I havn't seen it, don't know what it is, only been told it's an upright that is the same size.

[Franz]

Slag, one of the first things I learned was to never argue tractors with a Jonnipopper man, cause you ain't ever gonna change his mind. They used to say here a Jonnypopper man would walk 10 miles home to get another green tractor to tow his home rather than ride home behind a red tractor pullin his.
You just gotta hope Boilerman don't see that machine, or he's gonna claim Champions are a lot closer to Oliver Green than JD green, and just between us, they are.
The reason I knew your machine was pre 70 was because Champion did a redesign on the jug around 70, where they eliminated the pedistal in favor of a larger sump. You want to keep an eye on the bolts that hold the jug to the pedistal cause if they loosen, yo can crack cast iron quick. That might be one of the main reasons there aren't many like yours still around.
I actually have 3 Champs, one is in a power unit made by Ritter Dental to power a large dental office, and 2 others. All of mine are post 1980, so they have the new style casting.
Ritter chose Champion for their compressors for reliability and quiet. That unit employs a compressor hanging from 4 sprung rods with the motor suspended under the compressor. Champion sold the same jug with motors from 2 thru 10hp, with the only difference being the speed the compressor turned.

There is only one bad thing about Champs, if they are treated good, and given an occasional oil change, they won't ever wear out. That just can't be good for repeat sales.

Probably the main reason I like outside air intakes isn't noise, it's clean air. More compressors get scrapped for scored sleeves and broken valves because they suck dirty air, especially air containing paint or abrasive dust.

[SlagKing]

Hi Franz
Thanks for the info and the history. I understand about the filtering of air and will be careful of the pedistal bolts.

[gate man]

does anyone know of a way to hold a gate up while spray painting it

[gate man]

does anyone know of a way to hold a gate up while spray painting it

[Packrat]

I use to work for a ornamental railing shop. We use to "dip tank" railings and gates..... Or you could suspend it from the ceiling with a couple of wires, then touch up the wire spots afterwards.

[wroughtn_harv]

does anyone know of a way to hold a gate up while spray painting it

I used to have a set of frames not unlike two real tall sawhorses. I would then slip in scrap pieces into the ends of the welded up panels and hang them between the saw horses.

If your saw horses are long enough you can hang all your panels on one end. Paint the facing side of the first panel. Overspray will land on the panels behind it. When that panel is finished slide it to the opposite end of the sawhorses. Paint the other side. Then go back and paint the next panel. Repeat and do it all over again until they're all done.

I recommend using high volume low pressure rigs for this. I helps keep the overspray down and you're not polluting the air quite as much as using an conventional system.

You can use the same saw horse type frames for gates. You just have to figure out how to hang it. If you gate has open bottom end pieces then you can stand it up using upside down T's where the leg slips inside your verticals. The T's can be placed upon blocks so you can paint underneath.

When I used to have big gate and no help to install those T's were invaluable. I'd carry the gate to site beside my trailer. I had some brackets that enabled me to carry the gate about eight inches off the ground and vertical beside the trailer.

On site I'd horse it on to the T's. Then horse it into place. Then using shims I'd put it where I wanted it for height. Weld the hinges on and then get out the sawsall and start cutting off the T's. Had to build new T's for every gate. But they don't come in with a hangover nor do they have pockets to hold the hands so they won't get dirty.