How to "cure" flashburn

[pbfourever]

I know all the ways to prevent flashburn but how can i help "cure" it. I know flashburn isnt cureable but how can i help lessen the pain. Ive heard many rumors with the potatoes but what really works?:cry:

[enlpck]

See your ophthalmologist (NOT optometrist). You only get one set of eyes. There is a pretty good risk of infection if you put things in your eye, like potato (yes, a lot of people do recommend this) or Visine (which is an antihistimine, but also contains some pain killer), etc. Main problems are putting in things that carry infectious matter and masking the pain and symptoms of infection when it can be treated without causing permanent damage.

[pbfourever]

So go to a ophthalmologist BEFORE I put anything (visine) in my eyes?

[enlpck]

The ophthalmologist will be able to a) give you the good stuff, b) minimize the risk of infection, make sure that there is no damage other than to the cornea (damage to the retina, for example, from IR or blue light) and d) minimize the risk of permanent damage/scarring to the cornea (minimal risk from a single occurrence, but still a risk) There are other risks as well.

The risk of permanent damage from a single occurrence of flash burn is pretty minimal, but there is a risk.

Anything you put in the eye before going may mask things the opth. needs to see.

[coldlap]

I n England you can go to a eye hospital they check your eyes and put a pain killer in for free it is most important you have it checked out as you only one set of eyes.:nono:

[star]

Dont think this is a joke ,it has worked for me,Slice a peeled potato length ways 1/4" or so +/- 1/16" slices >>lay down & place 2 sliced potatos on both eyes:blush: pressing down,wait for a 1/2 hr. the dampness of the potato will draw out the heat from eyes,also try soaking some milk in the eyes,:eek: just a try,,

[prop-doctor]

YES GOOOOOOOOO SEE THE EYE GUY
visine only makes things worst

[CaptainWilly]

Last time I got flashed bad I picked up some stuff at the pharmacy. I cant remeber the name but its not like visine, its a thick goop made for burns/scratches on your eyes. You wont see to good for a while but it takes the pain away instantly and keeps your eyes from getting infected or further irritated. anything made for allergies like visine is pointless.

Im sure if you go to the pharmacy and look around you can find it or something similar.

I've herd potatos work, but the hell with home remedies just get some dang medicine and stop trying to be a hippy. :laugh:

[Oldtimer]

It's name is Pontocaine and it used to be sold by prescription only. It's good. After a couple of drops you can stick your finger in your eye and not feel it. Don't let anyone stand close to you when you put it in your eye as you may run over them. It hurts like a SOB for about 15 seconds or so and then everything is OK for two or three hours.

[TozziWelding]

A bottle of Jim Beam, and hopefully you pass out. The only way is to get the good drops from the Dr.

[pbfourever]

A bottle of Jim Beam, and hopefully you pass out. The only way is to get the good drops from the Dr.

I tend to like this the best for any pain.:p

[Patriot Performance]

A bottle of Jim Beam, and hopefully you pass out. The only way is to get the good drops from the Dr.

Yes, Whiskey the good Ol' American Cureall!

[littlefuzz]

It's name is Pontocaine and it used to be sold by prescription only. It's good. After a couple of drops you can stick your finger in your eye and not feel it. Don't let anyone stand close to you when you put it in your eye as you may run over them. It hurts like a SOB for about 15 seconds or so and then everything is OK for two or three hours.

Yeah, that's the good stuff! My old boss had some and give me a little bit in a visine bottle, I used to burn mine pretty regular but not in a few years now. The potatoes never worked for me but a cold rag over the eyes helps for a few minutes.

[zapster]

Flash burn in the eyes..

If there is flourecent lites that you can see where it happens?..

Stare at them after the arc flash for a minute or two..No Blinking
You won't have the sandpaper eyes at night..:nono:

I don't know how it "works" but it does..

Learned that 35 yrs ago..
Yup it does work!:cool:

...zap!

[65535]

Jeeze zap I just looked at the fluorescents in my room for only 10 seconds and the trip out and get a beautiful white color, and my easy feel better after being on the computer for awhile.

Crazy true story.

[big worm]

Or remember how it happened and don't do it no more! Seriously the first job I evr had truly welding I got it the first day there. It was the welder behind of me. When he would strike an arc it would reflect off the inner lense and right into my eyes. Now I make sure to not have any welding happen behind me unless there is a curtain.

That was the first and last time I've gotten it and don't expect it to happen again.

[Weldordie]

See your ophthalmologist (NOT optometrist). You only get one set of eyes. There is a pretty good risk of infection if you put things in your eye, like potato (yes, a lot of people do recommend this) or Visine (which is an antihistimine, but also contains some pain killer), etc. Main problems are putting in things that carry infectious matter and masking the pain and symptoms of infection when it can be treated without causing permanent damage.

Pardon me, enlpck, but Visine (as named) does not contain antihistamine products, and none of the several varieties of Visine contains pain killer (anesthetics).

If someone experiences flash burn, it is probably just as easy to ask the pharmacist what he or she would recommend, such an eye drop containing polyvinyl alcohol, which is what I used most of the time to treat flash burns of the cornea. BTW, if you think you should see a doctor, most optometrists, today, are well versed in evaluating and treating flash burns. Rest, with the eyes closed, is the primary treatment... the lining of the inside of the eyelids, being the best bandage for eyes. Aspirin can be taken for pain. Even some opththalmologists can't seem to figure out how to treat simple injuries to the cornea.
Regards, Weldordie, O.D.

[6010]

You have to be very careful what you put in your eyes. I had a size 5 starter in a control panel blow up in my face and all I could see for about 10 minutes was a big Orange ball. Later that night my eyes started burning and my wife wanted to put some of the medicine she got from her doctor in my eyes. She hadn't used it all and thought it would be good for my eyes. We hadn't been married long and since she thought she was doing a good thing I let her put the medicine in my eyes.

I woke up about 1:00 am and I was blind as a bat. I couldn't even open my eyes with my fingers. My wife had to call my father to help get me to the emergency room. The doctor in the emergency room said the medicine was about like pouring salt in my eyes. When I got over it I told my wife she could play nurse but no more playing doctor. No more prescribing medicine :nono:

[Sandy]

"That's why VISINE-A® contains a powerful antihistamine to help relieve the itching, plus a special ingredient to alleviate redness."

http://www.brands2liveby.com/brand.aspx?id=269

"Formerly Ocuhist®

Antihistamine to relieve itchy eyes
Relieves redness"

http://www.drugstore.com/qxp12344_333181_sespider/visine_a/eye_allergy_relief_antihistamine_and_redness_relie ver_drops.htm


"Eye allergy relief.
Sterile.
Pheniramine Maleate 0.3%.
Naphazoline Hydrochloride 0.025%.
Antihistamine to relieve itchy eyes.
Relieves redness.
Temporarily relieves itchy, red eyes due to:"

http://www.walgreens.com/beauty/product.jsp?CATID=306120&navAction=jump&navCount=0&id=prod1710

[Weldordie]

"That's why VISINE-A® contains a powerful antihistamine to help relieve the itching, plus a special ingredient to alleviate redness."

http://www.brands2liveby.com/brand.aspx?id=269

"Formerly Ocuhist®

Antihistamine to relieve itchy eyes
Relieves redness"

http://www.drugstore.com/qxp12344_333181_sespider/visine_a/eye_allergy_relief_antihistamine_and_redness_relie ver_drops.htm


"Eye allergy relief.
Sterile.
Pheniramine Maleate 0.3%.
Naphazoline Hydrochloride 0.025%.
Antihistamine to relieve itchy eyes.
Relieves redness.
Temporarily relieves itchy, red eyes due to:"

http://www.walgreens.com/beauty/product.jsp?CATID=306120&navAction=jump&navCount=0&id=prod1710

The relevancy of your post is not clear (no pun intended). Would you mind offering some explanation?
Thanks.

[TEK]

Seemed pretty clear to me....

[Sandy]

The relevancy of your post is not clear (no pun intended). Would you mind offering some explanation?
Thanks.

Visine was mentioned previously in the thread. That's the relavancy.

I see the branded "Visine" does in fact advertise Antihistamine as contents. I would guess they must be in there for anyone who wishes antihistamines for their eye ailments.

[Weldordie]

Seemed pretty clear to me....

I suppose it's "clear" to someone who is not familiar with the differences in formulations of medicines, and their intended effects, but it's still not clear to me. Perhaps, you can explain it to me... but, then again I suppose not.

[Weldordie]

Visine was mentioned previously in the thread. That's the relavancy.

I see the branded "Visine" does in fact advertise Antihistamine as contents.

That's why I questioned the relevancy. I think the discussion was about treating flash burn, but treating with antihistamines would not be an informed choice.

I would guess they must be in there for anyone who wishes antihistamines for their eye ailments.

If you really have to guess about the use of eye meds, perhaps you should not be offering suggestions about their use. Probably, best left to someone who has studied and used medications to treat eye injuries and diseases.

In a previous post you stated, "That's why VISINE-A® contains a powerful antihistamine to help relieve the itching, plus a special ingredient to alleviate redness." But, that statement is not correct. "Visine-A" does have an antihistamine, but it is combined a vasodilator, which is just the opposite from a vasoconstrictor ("...to alleviate redness..."), which you claim it contains.

While I can understand your wanting to get the information out there... posting misinformation is not in the best interest of the purpose of these boards, especially when it involves treatment of eye injuries or disease.

[Mandau]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Olduky2z5Vs

Stare at them after the arc flash for a minute or two..No Blinking
You won't have the sandpaper eyes at night..

At least you need a bed to view the light tube... it cost more then the welding rig... just a thought... I try the stare and it work... Thanks zap.

No... I dont have bed more than a US$1000 in fact its US$100

[Weldordie]

Flash burn in the eyes..

If there is flourecent lites that you can see where it happens?..

Stare at them after the arc flash for a minute or two..No Blinking
You won't have the sandpaper eyes at night..:nono:

I don't know how it "works" but it does..

Learned that 35 yrs ago..
Yup it does work!:cool:

...zap!

Hey, zap,

I've been thinking about the fluorescent light "cure" for arc flash, wondering how or why it works. I suspect it works only for the flashes that don't actually result in even a mild aggravation to the corneal tissue. The mere fact that flashes occur at varying distances from the eyes, and at varying intensities, would tell us that not all flashes result in damage to the cornea. So, it follows that for some flashes, staring at one's left foot for several seconds would have the same effect as staring at a fluorescent light.:cool: But, you're in big trouble, if you don't have a left foot.

[Mandau]

It like watchin TV in a dark room... you still see image after the TV is turn off, but when u see it with light on... your eyes is normal...:)

[TEK]

Pardon me, enlpck, but Visine (as named) does not contain antihistamine products, and none of the several varieties of Visine contains pain killer (anesthetics). Regards, Weldordie, O.D.

This is what is clear to me....Your attitude sucks...
You yourself stated that Visine had no antihistimines. Sandy posted material from a website, not his own opinion, that disputes that. You want to be a jerk about it, thats clear. I'm no eye Doctor and will readily admit that. Maybe you were. Good on you. Maybe you need to work on Dr./patient relationships,eh?:laugh: Have a nice day...........

[zapster]

Hey, zap,

I've been thinking about the fluorescent light "cure" for arc flash, wondering how or why it works. I suspect it works only for the flashes that don't actually result in even a mild aggravation to the corneal tissue. The mere fact that flashes occur at varying distances from the eyes, and at varying intensities, would tell us that not all flashes result in damage to the cornea. So, it follows that for some flashes, staring at one's left foot for several seconds would have the same effect as staring at a fluorescent light.:cool: But, you're in big trouble, if you don't have a left foot.

All I know is that I have never gone to :sleeping: or woke up in the middle of the night with sanpaper pupils..

I flash myself 2-3 times a week (Leave it alone) and not once had the problem..

...zap!

[zapster]

This is what is clear to me....Your attitude sucks...
You yourself stated that Visine had no antihistimines. Sandy posted material from a website, not his own opinion, that disputes that. You want to be a jerk about it, thats clear. I'm no eye Doctor and will readily admit that. Maybe you were. Good on you. Maybe you need to work on Dr./patient relationships,eh?:laugh: Have a nice day...........

Point taken..
But we all have an attitude on occasion..

Step away from the keyboard..
Count to 10...


...zap!

[Sandy]

In a previous post you stated, "That's why VISINE-A® contains a powerful antihistamine to help relieve the itching, plus a special ingredient to alleviate redness."

I made no statement. That was a quote directly from the vendors site. It is possible, I suppose, that neither the vendor nor Visine are fully familiar with their own product. ;)

[Weldordie]

I made no statement. That was a quote directly from the vendors site. It is possible, I suppose, that neither the vendor nor Visine are fully familiar with their own product. ;)

Just about anyone can "click and drag", but does it really help anyone to drag and print misinformation?

Would you mind posting the vendor's site from which you obtained the quote, along with the direct quote that you grabbed, so it can be further evaluated? If the the makers of Visine products or the vendors are printing erroneous information, I will be happy to contact them, so they can make corrections.

[Weldordie]

This is what is clear to me....Your attitude sucks...
You yourself stated that Visine had no antihistimines. Sandy posted material from a website, not his own opinion, that disputes that. You want to be a jerk about it, thats clear. I'm no eye Doctor and will readily admit that. Maybe you were. Good on you. Maybe you need to work on Dr./patient relationships,eh?:laugh: Have a nice day...........

I find it odd that someone like yourself will enter into a discussion about a subject you, obviously, know nothing about. It was a similar lack of objectivity that, recently, almost killed the Quaid twins. You have nothing to offer to this thread, other than mis-reading my attitude, and trying to be rude. What is clear to me... your ignorance shines.

You probably won’t comprehend a thing about what I am about to write, but perhaps, someone following this thread will be able to glean something from it. The term “Visine” used to be a product name, but no longer is. Visine has evolved into being just a generic term, as the manufacturer added a variety formulations to treat different eye conditions. We now have VISINE A.C., VISINE FOR CONTACTS, VISINE L.R., VISINE TEARS, and VISINE-A, but there is no such medication as, “VISINE”. That’s why I stated, previously, that Visine had no antihistamines, but then you and Sandy (in your combined wisdom) try to say otherwise.

I hate to belabor the point, but I just don’t understand why you chose to make fools of yourselves by forwarding misinformation. I, however, always attempt to offer the best advice, whether I’m passing along tips on fabricating, welding, or medical advice.

Regards.

[Weldordie]

I flash myself 2-3 times a week (Leave it alone) and not once had the problem..

...zap!

Sorry... just can't give you a pass on that one... it's too good to miss. LMAO!
Cheers!

[Sandy]

Would you mind posting the vendor's site from which you obtained the quote, along with the direct quote that you grabbed, so it can be further evaluated?

Scroll back up to your post in reply to me or to my post you replied to. All links were contained within both. Thanks.

If the the makers of Visine products or the vendors are printing erroneous information, I will be happy to contact them, so they can make corrections.

Oh by all means, please do. :waving:

[Weldordie]

Scroll back up to your post in reply to me or to my post you replied to. All links were contained within both. Thanks.

Oh by all means, please do. :waving:

That's what I thought... apparently, you are just another faker. It shows a pretty shallow fellow who can't or won't back up claims. Thanks for no help. I'm done.

[zapster]

That's what I thought... apparently, you are just another faker. It shows a pretty shallow fellow who can't or won't back up claims. Thanks for no help. I'm done.

You are so wrong here My Friend..:waving:
There is nothing left to question...:rolleyes:


...zap!

[Weldordie]

You are so wrong here My Friend..:waving:
There is nothing left to question...:rolleyes:
...zap!

Apparently, the discussion was beyond your grasp, too, my friend.

[zapster]

Apparently, the discussion was beyond your grasp, too, my friend.


I stare at flourecent lites..

...zap!

[Weldordie]

I stare at flourecent lites..

...zap!

Whooopie!

[zapster]

Whooopie!

Whats-A-Matter Man?
Having a bad day??:drinkup:

Easter is tomorrow..

Lighten up

...zap!

[Weldordie]

Whats-A-Matter Man?
Having a bad day??:drinkup:

Easter is tomorrow..

Lighten up

...zap!

Sure know how to try to insult an atheist, eh?:D

[TEK]

Sure know how to try to insult an atheist, eh?:D

Well, that explains a lot....
Poor, shallow, bitter little man with no hope for the future. I pray God has mercy on you.....

[William McCormick Jr]

I know all the ways to prevent flashburn but how can i help "cure" it. I know flashburn isnt cureable but how can i help lessen the pain. Ive heard many rumors with the potatoes but what really works?:cry:

I throw half and half in my eyes. Milk works too. But half and half is super soothing. At first I tried that stuff they give you at the hospital. It is almost like grease. Not very easy to get it to move around. I thought it was kind of useless.

I had gotten flashed about six times one day working with my father on a fishing boat. He was using Argon and Helium on aluminum. I went to a diner that night and the waiter told me in his country of origin, that when you were welding and you got flashed that you just put milk in your eyes.

I was feeling like death by milk poisoning in your eye sockets, couldn't be much worse then the way I felt. So I opened up one of those little half and half plastic containers for coffee. And I just poured it in. And I instantly got relief. He should be a doctor or something.

No side effects, no more problems slept like a baby.


Sincerely,


William McCormick

[Weldordie]

Well, that explains a lot....
Poor, shallow, bitter little man with no hope for the future. I pray God has mercy on you.....

What a jerk you are! I didn't say I was an atheist. That was just bait to see who would jump into the sheeeet! You just seem too eager to look for one opportunity after another to prove you are a moron.

Happy Easter!

[William McCormick Jr]

There are different levels of getting flashed. I can actually look at 60-90 amp DC straight polarity TIG welding, if I look at it straight on. If I catch it from the corner or side of my eye. My eye twitches and has a painful spasm. But still no flash effect.

Low power AC TIG welding from a few feet away is also no problem.

But if you are helping someone else weld. And you are looking and focusing hard, to see if small pencil or indelible ink marks are lined up. And the guy then hits full 175 amp power, with Argon and Helium. You will be getting the sand like feeling, if you stare at a fluorescent bulb till law makers are honest.

But I can see that if you get a quick common flash, or just one flash. That keeping your eye open, could trigger some type of response by your body to get more fluid up to the eye.

Years ago they said that actually the retina gets damaged by weld flashes, and that basically the eye does not have enough fluid to lubricate the eye. But some of these cases were with pretty heavy amperage.

Sincerely,


William McCormick

[William McCormick Jr]

Happy Easter.

Hope you guys have a great day. And make welders look intelligent and strong. Try not to drink so much you pass out on the couch, and all the little kids gather around and make fun of you.

http://members.aol.com/stroagecold/Delphi/bun.gif



Sincerely,


William McCormick

[Mandau]

Too late... Easter was one day earlier at my side... we had our share :D:D:D:drinkup::drinkup::drinkup::drinkup::drinkup :

[TEK]

What a jerk you are! I didn't say I was an atheist. That was just bait to see who would jump into the sheeeet! You just seem too eager to look for one opportunity after another to prove you are a moron.

Happy Easter!

You are correct. I stooped to a low level with my posts to you and you, and all, have my apologies. If I could retract my previous posts, I would. Internet arguments are just plain stupid and I'm sorry I got into this one.You win....:waving: