chainsaw sharpener

[Sticky]

I need to buya good chainsaw sharpener. I would like to get one with a 4 inch disk instead of the little 1/4 inch round spinning tip. I got about 12 chains I need to sharpen for my 029 Farm Boss.

[dfrazier]

I am not sure how good they are but harbor freight sells one for a pretty reasonable price.
David

[Planet X]

These guys have given me good service perhaps one of their chain grinders will suit your needs.
Baileys (http://www.baileys-online.com/)

[dulknife]

if you buy an 0regon you will never have to buy another.

[Sticky]

dullknife,

Were do I buy one?

[Sticky]

Planet X,


How do I get ahold of Baileys?

[Planet X]

Originally posted by Sticky
Planet X,


How do I get ahold of Baileys?

Bailey click me (http://www.baileys-online.com/)

I don't use chain grinders so I'm not sure what would be a good one-I'd just call em, sure they would give you the hook up.:cool:

[Franz]

Chain grinders MUST be bidirectional and have an 8" wheel to be worth a dam.
They also spend you a lot of money on new chains if you get too ambitious grinding chains instead of learning to file one.
There are plenty of links from www.arboristsite.com for saw equipment, and you might even find one for sale over there.

Oregon is about the best sharpener around, and Oregonchain has a damn good web site with plenty of information on filing and grindsing chains.

[cutter]

Chainsaw sharpening is pretty much a lost cause out here in the final frontier on account of the
dirt & sand in the wood, especially if you're sawing limbs that have been on the ground for
very long. It eats into all parts of the chains & causes so much stretching that I have to throw
most of them away well before the blades are used up. I can get them ground at Jan's Parts & Things
for $4 each; she hands about half of the ones I take her back to me & says, "you don't really want
to ruin your sprocketts, do you?"
So, I can ordinarily figure on one re-sharpening per chain & having to buy 2 or 3 new ones per season
since I only burn 2 or 3 cords per winter on account of the short, mild winters we have. At that rate,
it would take ten years or so to justify the cost of a good grinder.

[Bolt]

Cutter,

My biggest challenge is not keeping the chains sharp, it is finding wood to cut out here!

LOL

[cutter]

Originally posted by Bolt
Cutter,

My biggest challenge is not keeping the chains sharp, it is finding wood to cut out here!

LOL

Dear god, a fellow flatlander! :) Hi there, Bolt.

I am still harvesting the last of that ice storm from 3 or 4 years ago & it's getting pretty skinny.
I also have plan B: a tree pruning counterculture kid I ran across uses his mother's alley for temporary
storage so I can usually get a load or two on the cheap but I have to watch him because he is
prone to "mis-speak" himself about how green it is. Plus, my daily travels expose me to lots
of alleys. I am afraid I was a bit too much like the grasshopper this summer & didn't stock up
like I should have. It's going to really chap me if I have to turn my furnace on this year.

[Franz]

There is excellent information on chain filing on the OregonChain web site.
I ran chain saws for a good 50 years before I ever had one ground, starting with a miserable sumbich of a saw that had a rotating carburator on the back so you could run the saw sideways.

[stovepoker]

Franz, with a saw like that, you'd best shut the engine off and find a partner to haul the saw back and forth. Might have to use vise grips to keep the chain still while doing this.

[vipermanz]

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[leaddog]

I cut a lot of fire wood and I NEVER have my chains machine sharpened. Learn to us a file, It is easy and only takes a couple minutes to touch up. I touch up every hour or less. it isn't hard at all. Just buy and use sharp files. watch the angles, and do it often. Makes sawing alot easier.
leaddog

[Sticky]

Leaddog


I just tried that on the blade on my saw and I havn't sawed with it yet. I have about 10 dull blades. The proes seem to only use a file.

[Sberry]

My Dad is a woodcutter from way back,,, just a file like leaddog says. Rocket science it aint. One or 2 strokes to keep it sharp. There is a simple file guide to keep an eye on the angles and a guage to file the rakers down too. A saw store will have the stuff.

[Sberry]

Its a good thing to have a Dad who's hobby is wood cutting. I fill about 60 of these boxes every year,,, I didnt have to saw a single piece,,, ha

[Planet X]

If you take your raker's down too far you will know it. The saw will try to pull you into the cut- if your saw has enough cubic inches just hang on they will wear down with enough cutting.
As far as using your round file, just get some oregon chain with the 'cheater' line, keep the file parallel with the line on top of the tooth and drop the backend end down a bit to what ever angle the type of chain you have specs- 3-7degrees or so.
Most people will spend too much time getting the gullet pretty would suggest putting more upward pressure on the file.The top of the tooth is what does most of the cutting- at least till you sharpen a few.

[Franz]

Aw geez X yer givin out all the secret information. Next yer gonna go and tell people you downset the raker different for hardwood than you do for soft wood. Good thing you didn't mention filing out of the tooth rather than into it.
What the hell is a cheater line, when did that come out? I only been filin chains for 50 years and I never saw a cheater line. I have watched a couple guys who knew more about filin chains than I did "sharpen" em with tapered round files though.

[Planet X]

Originally posted by Franz
Aw geez X yer givin out all the secret information. Next yer gonna go and tell people you downset the raker different for hardwood than you do for soft wood. Good thing you didn't mention filing out of the tooth rather than into it.
What the hell is a cheater line, when did that come out? I only been filin chains for 50 years and I never saw a cheater line. I have watched a couple guys who knew more about filin chains than I did "sharpen" em with tapered round files though.

Franz, sorry all I have is some crap 'woodsman pro' chain, so no pic. Oregon brand scribes in a line on the top surface of the tooth, which is very handy for field sharpening. However as you have pointed out changing that angle to suit wood types is the 'art' part .
I have a certain angle I like for say something like mountain mahogany (very hard wood) and something else for soft woods like pine.
Still if I were a logger I would use a skip type chain anyway. All the 'real' secrets are slipping away anyway with the 'real' loggers courtesy of the sierra club. Too bad those asses dont see all the overripe timber that is wasted up in places like Oregon-the s*** clubbers still want their decks, they just want the material to come from somebody Else's forests:mad:

About the filing out've the tooth thing- never crossed my mind,but but someone taught me learning over the internet that might not be so obvious.

Side note: I was up somewhere-Oregon I think and the Faller I was working with-simple man,plain and direct type. Just got done dropping this nice pondo- some kid comes up and starts asking him how come he did not come into the tree on his backcut with the top of the bar.
His reply- "you dont drive your car backward do you?"
Funny as ****, kid was a 'educated' type which really made the scene comical.
It would sorta be like me pulling up to where some real weldors were working on a new natural gas line pipe system, and start telling (asking) them why they did not do such and such.. I can be an *** ,but never like that kid

[Franz]

Kind of like when some as$ asks ya why yer draggin a chain along the ground, there's nothing like the look on their face when you tell em it's easier than pushin a chain.

I'm wonderin if Oregon is putting that line on the chain so the stupids workin at the sharpening machine don't grind the cutter past the line. I've seen chains where they grind em back to nubs, cause they are too dumb to know how dangerous that is.

[jimmyed]

I cut timber for a living.
Skip chain is slow until you get up to a 4 foot bar lenght.


Learn to file a chain and save the money on a grinder.