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zapster
03-19-2008, 05:18 PM
I have to make a couple of these..
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And a couple of those..
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I'm gonna start with a couple of "Those"..
Here they are after the heads have been installed and welded..
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Weld..
1 Pass..
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Here is the bushing for the ends..
Hole in head needs to be 4.750 for it to fit..
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Next!

...zap!

zapster
03-19-2008, 05:24 PM
Here are the end flanges that I need to make fit after I Blanchard ground them but that will have to wait...
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We start by boring out the head for the bushing to fit...
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More boring..
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Done boring..
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There is'nt much of the head left now is there? :laugh:

WoW!
Look at the clock..:dizzy:
2:45 PM and time to go home..

I'll continue with this in the A.M.
I get all the fun jobs..

See you then!

...zap!

curb guy
03-19-2008, 09:58 PM
come on man ,don't make us wait:cry:

Me!
03-19-2008, 10:18 PM
Hay Zap,
Machining question for ya....

Why do you put two "groves" in things when you turn them?
What does it do?

Bikespot
03-19-2008, 10:27 PM
Looks simple enough so far.

:cool:

Not sure what those grooves are for.

Shox Dr
03-20-2008, 03:37 AM
going home at 14.45, what time do you start 6?

In a perfect job I'd work 2-10 in winter and 6-2 in summer :drinkup: only problem is finding someone who prepaired to do the other shift :laugh:

zapster
03-20-2008, 05:07 AM
going home at 14.45, what time do you start 6?

In a perfect job I'd work 2-10 in winter and 6-2 in summer :drinkup: only problem is finding someone who prepaired to do the other shift :laugh:

I usually punch in at 5:45 A.M.

...zap!

brandon75173
03-20-2008, 07:58 AM
I usually punch in at 5:45 A.M.

...zap!

Yikes! Not me, I generally start as late as I can and work late. My mind and body seem to work better in the evening hours, I do envy you folks that get going so early. No prayer for me.

Brandon

zapster
03-20-2008, 03:32 PM
Hay Zap,
Machining question for ya....

Why do you put two "groves" in things when you turn them?
What does it do?



What your looking at is the steady rest spots..
Tubing like that is not round by a long shot from the factory..

So you turn spots near the chuck after indicating it in as close as you can get it..
Do one side..
Flip it end for end and do the other..
Keep them both the same size so when you use the rest the tube will be inline end for end..

On this job after the heads were welded in there is no need for the rest anymore..
Its not a "tube" anymore and the "crush and distort" factor is eliminated..
Just indicate the chuck end in and then use your indicator and a rubber hammer to get the "far end" running true just like the chuck side..

...zap!

zapster
03-20-2008, 04:03 PM
OK now continuing with "Those"
After boring for the bushings we need a step for the flange to mount on..
1/8" deep will suffice..
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Time to deal with the Flange..
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Flange step..
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Now that that's done we can assemble the unit..
First the weld in bushing..
You need to orientate the bushings in final assy but bushing #1 can go in anywhere..
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Weld close-up..
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Next!

...zap!

zapster
03-20-2008, 04:08 PM
There is only one way to get down inside the tube to weld in the bushing..
The 'ol "Bent Tungestion" trick..
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Flange tacked..
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Welded..
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Weld..
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Now that the "busy" end of the assy is done to line up the end bushing you need to get the shaft and associated parts out..
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Next!

...zap!

zapster
03-20-2008, 04:13 PM
Assemble the rear with the bushing first..
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Now screw the shaft bushing to the weld in bushing..
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Slide it over the shaft..
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Set the weld in bushing by tapping the screws with a rubber hammer untill the weld in bushing is seated..
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Dis-assemble and weld in the bushing..:D
Well..
I'll show you that tomorrow..

Thats all for today..
I get all the fun jobs..

...zap!

semeehan17
03-20-2008, 08:41 PM
those welds are SEXY!!! you are the man zap, thanks for all the time and effort you put into these posts.

Burnit
03-20-2008, 08:48 PM
Nice work Zap, what are these and those for?

Me!
03-20-2008, 09:05 PM
I think this is the first post I have seen you use MIG in :laugh:

zapster
03-20-2008, 09:43 PM
I think this is the first post I have seen you use MIG in :laugh:

:confused:

I don't have a Mig..
I know what you mean..

Sometimes its the material..in this case the flange..
Whatever no big deal..

Not done yet..


...zap!

chopper5
03-21-2008, 05:36 AM
nicely done usual:drinkup:

zapster
03-22-2008, 10:59 AM
OK..

Now to finish up "Those"...
Weld in the other end bushing..
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After cooling we use the same set up shaft for turning..
Just re assemble and put in the machine..
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Turn to spec. and thats that!
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Now on to "These" next!

...zap!

zapster
03-22-2008, 11:04 AM
Now "These" are pretty easy..
The heads are not recessed into the tube..
They are "Faced" after welding..
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Weld..
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Bored and faced..
Its also a good time to see how much porosity is in the weld..
None that I can see..:cool:
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Same thing here..
Weld in one end wherever and use the shaft and bushings to align the other end..
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Next!

...zap!

zapster
03-22-2008, 11:12 AM
End bushing lined up..
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Welded and ready for the lathe..
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Set up to turn..
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And done..
I'll put the key slot in after..

I get all the fun jobs..

...zap!

zapster
03-22-2008, 11:14 AM
Damn!!!!
I have to name the pics better I guess..
Here is "These" all done..
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Way too many pics I suppose..:dizzy::dizzy:

...zap!

tresi
03-22-2008, 11:16 AM
I usually punch in at 5:45 A.M.

...zap!

Great work but life before the crack of noon is highly over rated.

Patriot Performance
03-22-2008, 11:29 AM
Well Zap I think that positioner has paid for itself a couple times over now.

Great work as always!

Engloid
03-22-2008, 11:34 AM
Looks like a fun job to do.

I start work at 6am. I prefer to get work done as early as possible, so I can enjoy more of the day afterwards. I see 2 scenarios:

9-5:30 work- I sleep till 8, get off at 5, and have only 6.5 hrs till midnight.
6-2:30 work- I sleep till 5, get off work at 2:30, and have 9.5hrs to enjoy for myself.

So the difference is that I have 3 more hours to enjoy if I go to work earlier. I hate mornings, but I would rather work early and have more "life" to enjoy for myself, than to spend that time in the mornings sleeping and letting life pass me by.

zapster
03-22-2008, 11:35 AM
Great work but life before the crack of noon is highly over rated.

Thats why I'm usually :sleeping::sleeping: on the couch at 8..
Or between periods of the Hockey game..:sleeping:

...zap!

Burnit
03-22-2008, 11:52 AM
Nice work Zap, what are these and those for?


So, what are they for?

gnm109
03-22-2008, 12:29 PM
That's a great thread, Mr. Zap! You are an inspiration! Thanks. :drinkup:

zapster
03-22-2008, 01:27 PM
So, what are they for?

Guide rollers for more shingles..

We make alot of 'em..

...zap!

stickkid
03-22-2008, 03:15 PM
Great work and incredible welds!

Mandau
03-22-2008, 11:21 PM
There is only one way to get down inside the tube to weld in the bushing..
The 'ol "Bent Tungestion" trick..
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Great experience...:blob3:

aczeller
03-23-2008, 10:17 AM
once again, as usual, absolutely remarkable work Zap. quick question tho... how do you get the bent tungsten? i have no clue, and have never seen it doe before now.

Later,
Andy

zapster
03-23-2008, 12:02 PM
once again, as usual, absolutely remarkable work Zap. quick question tho... how do you get the bent tungsten? i have no clue, and have never seen it doe before now.

Later,
Andy

Sharpen to a fine point..
Crank the machine up..
Aim at a chunk of copper..
Wait untill the tip is Red hot..
Let off the pedal and gently sink the tip into the copper and push all in one motion..

Presto!

...zap!

phila.renewal
03-25-2008, 12:24 PM
I see you still get all the fun jobs.

Nice work. :cool2:

zapster
03-25-2008, 04:40 PM
I see you still get all the fun jobs.

Nice work. :cool2:

Whats up? :waving:
Long time no type!

...zap!

phila.renewal
03-25-2008, 08:10 PM
Whats up? :waving:
Long time no type!

...zap!

Hey my friend. I'm glad you still remember me.

Not too much up. Just crazy busy. A project I was involved in for the past three years (a tiny little rehab with enough city red tape to stretch from philly to boston) started to "converge" and it's now (almost) done. I ordered some castings today that will become basement window grates (with a little fab and welding; yes! -- I hope it's a fun job) so I was thinking of you guys and thought I'd better get away from the job to check in.

Hope all is well here. Looks like everyone is good.

We needed a stained glass transom and I was going to get in touch with you (IIRC, your better half does some nice custom work), but as the scheduling worked out, just couldn't make it happen (went from "need it soon" to "need it yesterday" in a blink). Maybe next time.

Like a bad penny, I'll keep turning up. :waving:

David R
03-26-2008, 06:21 AM
Zap, your welds are gorgeous as usual.

The one does look a little like mig.

Hmmmm Tig like MIG. :laugh:

David :)