CUT50D Plasma Cutter Gas Post Switcher?

[specter]

Got a CUT50D cutter today. Owner's Manual appeared a bit vaque about assembly, But I got it all assembled and working.

Manual Talks about a Gas Post Switcher. Unit switch has 2.5S and 5.0S positions, yet no explanation has to what the switch is or an explanation of the two switch positions.

I assume it has something to do with shielding gas??

Tom

[specter]

1st use with the cutter was try out by cutting name in 1/4" plate steel. Cut was fast and clean. Works as good as the Professional Miller Plasma Gutter we have in the shop! But this is my toy for my farm .

[specter]

This was my 1st use of a plasma cutter. My shop uses a Miller 1251 with interfaces with our cnc machine and computer but I have never used the machine. Our machinist showed me how to use the Everlast and I am Impressed with its quality and cut. And it only costs a faction of the Miller unit.

[specter]

A bit slow on thicker dense material with a jagged cut. Machinist told me I should have gone with the Cut60D cause it does make a big difference. I didn't think the extra 10 amps made that much of a difference! Oh well live and learn . The old should have gotten a V8. Guess I got a six cylinder.

[fluvannabear]

Tom: The switch controls how long the compressed air flows after you stop the cut. 2.5 seconds in one position and 5.0 seconds in the other. Gives the hot bits time to cool down in the airstream. Hope you enjoy your Cut-50D as much as I like mine. Take care. Burt

[specter]

Hi Ya fluvannabear (burt),

Question maybe I should be asking Everlast is that ebay ad header said it came with
"5 YEARS WARRANTY !!! DIGITAL METER"

1. Further reading into the ad contains a "Disclaimer" saying "A ONE (1) year warranty applies to the units." and the Owners Manual says Nothing about a warranty.

2. My unit did not come with a "DIGITAL METER"? The shipping box was banged up but from what I could tell everything was in there. The box says its a CUT50D Plasma Cutterand so does the Owners Manual but the Owners Manual was so vaque on assembly and contents I wonder now if I got what was listed on EBay.

3. I tried the unit on what the ad said it would cut! 1" Steel It was mild grade rolled steel and it would not cut it. Am I doing something wrong? I tried the Gas Post Switcher to see if it made the difference but it didn't. I turned up my gas to 70psi )by the way the manual says 4.5 kg?)

Guess I need to address the questions to Everlast?

[specter]

Everlast Phone number not found in Owner's Manual. Found last page of Ebay ad. Phoned and left them a message about the unit.

"Thanks" for your reply fluvannabear.:waving:

[specter]

:) Got a return phone call from Alex at Everlast shortly after I called and left a message about my concerns.

He said the Ebay ad had a discrepancy and will be corrected, but that I was sent the wrong unit an analog not digital.

He also noticed my concerns about it not meeting my requirements and suggested the CUT60D (which I orginally wanted but was outbid on EBAY in the last 10 seconds). He said he would take the CUT50D back once he gets some new CUT60D units in to switch it out with. Wow!! He did say he will pay the cost of shipping both on the present unit 50D and the 60D unit. I do however have to pay the difference between the cost of the 50D unit and the 60D unit since its an ungrade. I agreed that the cost difference since its an upgraded 60D and not another 50D.

Alex was VERY UNDERSTANDING. He even told me to continue to use the 50D until I receive the new 60D, at their cost. Then package up the 50D and return it at their cost.

I sure wish other companies had the customer satisfaction in mind such as Alex and Everlast.

Thanks Again,

Tom

[metalman52]

Well i think you will like the cut 60 i bought one from Alex but as luck would have it the unit was bad right out of the box. I will have to say after reading these threads i am glad Alex has taken care of your problems, they did replace my unit and the next one i got works great i will sing its praise maybe it was just bad timing or something no one at everlast returned my calls about the problem and not a thing happened untill i boxed it up and paid to have it shipped back to them. If i had the unit for some time i could see paying the shipping but get it one day and to let them know the next day it was bad did not seem fair , but i guess the bottom line is they replaced it and it works great you will like it i am sure of that. And by the way i work for a welding supply company so i am around many brands this unit may not take being knocked around like some others but the price is right and i think if you take care of it it will last :drinkup:

[specter]

Hi Metalman and thanks for you reply.

Yeah well so far I am pleased with Everlasts (Alex's) response . I guess will really see just how good they really are when Everlast pays for the shipping on this New CUT60D and the return shipping on the CUT50D. Alex did say I had to pay the "$150 difference on the price of the unit".

Its is a bummer that both you and I had to go thru this. I am hopeful Alex and Everlast will be true to their word. Still kind of a letdown having to wait for the unit to show up. I already boxed up that CUT50D rather than use it as Alex said too. I suppose I could have used it at their expense given the hassle of waiting for a unit and that $150 price difference.

Oh well I am glad to hear that you finally got a working unit and that it works fine.

You friend in metalwork:waving:

Tom

[EVERLAST_SUPPORT]

Metalman52,

Sorry to hear about the mix-up and glad you are happy. Our aim is for all Everlast customers to have a great experience.

We have the sales and support emails now up on the website (www.everlastgenerators.com and www.everlastwelders.com), and are getting the numbers up next (sales works and can get you support). If you have future needs, feel free to PM me here or email support off the website.

And thanks to all of you for the kind words on the Everlast products. Nice to hear Metalman52 works in a welding supply company and can say he likes the unit. Many have gone in welding shops and many have been sold. Maybe contact Alex about a dealership.

Specter,

That is post air flow. If you hit the trigger, air comes out, when you let off, you can continue the air for 2.5 or 5 seconds to continue blowing away any molten metal. The new manual explains this, just delays as we are growing, it does exist and will be on the website soon.

We are making a name and Everlast will make it right.

EDIT: Specter, please post when you receive the unit and your results so others will know if Everlast delivers. Thanks

[specter]

Thanks again metalman and Everlast I sure wish I got this kind of customer service from the folks at Miller when they repaired my shops expensive 1251 which wouldn't interface with our shops cnc machine.

I do alot of work for local farmers. The CUT60D that Alex said he is sending will be my own machine on my farm. I do alot of metal work on my own such as inovating engineering of parts no longer available from parts dealers. I look forward to receiving the unit and I'll be sure to leave a comment.

Hopefully folks out there see that there is a company with actual customer service. Not like some other companies that refer you to there site with one size fits all answers, or never listens to their recording machines.

Thanks Again

Tom aka specter

[EVERLAST_SUPPORT]

Thanks again metalman and Everlast I sure wish I got this kind of customer service from the folks at Miller when they repaired my shops expensive 1251 which wouldn't interface with our shops cnc machine.

I do alot of work for local farmers. The CUT60D that Alex said he is sending will be my own machine on my farm. I do alot of metal work on my own such as inovating engineering of parts no longer available from parts dealers. I look forward to receiving the unit and I'll be sure to leave a comment.

Hopefully folks out there see that there is a company with actual customer service. Not like some other companies that refer you to there site with one size fits all answers, or never listens to their recording machines.

Thanks Again

Tom aka specter

Tom,

Everlast is a great company and we are here to help.

I am sure other here would like to see some of the part you create. Not sure if you have a camera or time, but I know I would like to see some of your future projects.

Mike

[specter]

Thanks Mike I really look forward to the arrival of the CUT60D.

One of my 1st creative projects for it will be to cut down a 36" gravedigger backhoe bucket and turn it into an 18" Bucket for my backhoe.

I will be sure to take before an after pics.

I am sure the bucket cuts will come out much better with the plasma cutter rather than using my oxy/acx tourch or a cutting rod on my stick welder.
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[specter]

Well 60D hasn't arrived yet so I took the 50D back out of the box and used it like Alex said to.

I tried severe cutting a 3/4" bracket on my backhoe but seems like the cutting tip was arcing out to the side. I had the cutter adjusted 50amps, air pressure to 60-65 psi, unit was properly grounded, bracket was grounded with units grounding clamp on clean surface, and I started on edge using stand off method. It only cut partially before the arcing got worse !!

What did I do wrong?

[EVERLAST_SUPPORT]

Are you holding the torch at an slight angle to blow the molten metal away from the cut area? I tried cutting a transformer once that was 3 inches thick to see what a 50 amp cutter can do, when I angled the plasma arc, I was able to cut pretty deep, however at a point the metal would come back in the cut and weld it back up.

Also, make sure the electrode and nozzle are clean, that can make the arc go all over. Maybe try more and less are 50-70 range and see if that makes the arc stable.

[gaustin]

Well 60D hasn't arrived yet so I took the 50D back out of the box and used it like Alex said to.

I tried severe cutting a 3/4" bracket on my backhoe but seems like the cutting tip was arcing out to the side. I had the cutter adjusted 50amps, air pressure to 60-65 psi, unit was properly grounded, bracket was grounded with units grounding clamp on clean surface, and I started on edge using stand off method. It only cut partially before the arcing got worse !!

What did I do wrong?

I think 50 amps and 3/4" is pushing it. I may be wrong. The 1/2" I cut last night was VERY slow using 40 Amps.

[farmersamm]

I know this is a stupid question.

Wouldn't a cutting torch be best for thick stuff like your bucket modification?

I've never used a plasma cutter, but I've heard they're excellent on thin stuff and dont' leave the piece lookin' like a pretzel from heat distortion.

[specter]

Nah co question is stupid if you gets you an answer.
I do have a torch capable of cutting the bucket and the brackets I am working on!! A oxy/ace tourch can do the job but I want to do clean cuts for the rewelding of the items. Plus the clean cuts reduce the time cleaning up the torch mess on the steel and bending it back in place if it warps. Plus a plasma cutter with not change the temper of the steel. I could use a cutting stick but again I perfer clean cuts.

I do co-own a cnc shop that could easiIy do the cut but I want to not have to disconnect the bucket from the backhoe or the arm the brackets are on drive the backhoe 10 miles to the shop.

Thats one of the reasons I am getting a plasma cutter for the farm. Like many farmers will tell you! There are manytimes on the farm we have to make our own attachments or impliments or make modifications. Plus I guess I always liked torching and cutting steel to make things.

[farmersamm]

I never thought about changing the temper. That makes real sense.

So the plasma cutter actually doesn't put enough heat into the cut zone to appreciably change the nature of the metal ? That's neat.

I have a pretty full line of farm equip., and I think the only tempered/exotic metals are on the tillage stuff. Plow bottoms, discs, springtooth. Everything else seems to be mild steel, or at best-steel with a slightly higher carbon content. And quite a bit of cast iron.

My LWS usually shears my sheet metal for free, if you don't give him a list of 20 cuts on one sheet, then it's $20/hour. Small town courtesy. Plus it's a bonus for buyin' your steel from him.

I've had need for a plasma torch, but I just about pass out when I see the price tag.:D Wouldn't mind havin' one for irregular cuts in thin stock.

[specter]

The cutting edge & teeth of backhoe buckets are both high carbon and tempered steel in order to be able to handle the digging force of up to 11,000psi. Using a plasma cutter is fast and clean meaning less chances of changing the temper, warpage of the steel, and less dross that from a oxy/acy torch.

You kind of sound like me as far as saving money on purchasing steel and of course a personal use plasma cutter. For my own use I look everywhere for steel even bedframes, or here's one many haven't considered: Take apart most mattresses and you'll find the edges of rmost mattresses contain Spring Steel rodding. The rodding is great for high strength rod applications. The bed frames are great for making utility carts or steel shelfing.