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hank3rd
08-28-2008, 03:36 PM
Hello!
My name is Hank and I work for Kelly Services. We are looking to place some folks at a well known filtration product company in Greensboro, NC. The position is third shift and offers plenty of overtime. Pay is $13-$15 DOE. They are looking to hire through Kelly.
Candidates will have experience with TIG welding on Stainless Steel. PM me if interested!
-Hank
ironman715
08-28-2008, 04:04 PM
WOW a whole $15 and houre. Let me jump all over this...
ElGuapo
08-28-2008, 04:20 PM
Really makes me consider to moving to the States for a good paying job.:blob2:
hank3rd
08-28-2008, 04:39 PM
Might be good for someone that has some experience, not someone with 3 or more years. They are looking for a candidate that can lay a good bead on stainless mesh.
Plus, NC is not the best when it comes to pay rates :(
Anyway, if anyone is interested or knows anyone interested, let me know.
choche
08-28-2008, 09:28 PM
Might be good for someone that has some experience, not someone with 3 or more years. They are looking for a candidate that can lay a good bead on stainless mesh.
Plus, NC is not the best when it comes to pay rates :(
Anyway, if anyone is interested or knows anyone interested, let me know.
No, those cheap a$$ emp. services are not the best when it comes to rates, don't kid yourself Mr. Hanky.
hank3rd
08-28-2008, 09:39 PM
No, those cheap a$$ emp. services are not the best when it comes to rates, don't kid yourself Mr. Hanky.
I wish we were the ones setting the pay rate, when in fact it is the client that is setting it. Kelly Services has been around since 1946 and we work with 92% of fortune 500 companies. I do not consider Kelly to be cheap. Trust me we are not making a killing on the deal.
Maybe I am in the wrong place, sorry if I it does not come across that I am trying to be helpful, I thought I would help our client and someone that needs a job at the same time.
obewan
08-29-2008, 10:40 AM
>>I thought I would help our client and someone that needs a job at the same time.<<
I don't think you are much help when you are taking a slice of the already low pay.
To attract the best welders, my employer pays $23 an hour + benefits + bonus. Non-union. Also in the south.
Heck, in my first job as a welder, in 1979, I made $8.50 an hour. In the deep south, also non union. In today's money, that equates to around $19 an hour.
We are not going to ease the coming shortage of welders by offering substandard wages.
When I was a laid off welding engineer, Kelly tried to offer me some welding engineering jobs at the bottom of the going pay scale. Good thing I held out. I doubled my pay.
makoman1860
08-29-2008, 12:21 PM
>>I thought I would help our client and someone that needs a job at the same time.<<
I don't think you are much help when you are taking a slice of the already low pay.
To attract the best welders, my employer pays $23 an hour + benefits + bonus. Non-union. Also in the south.
Heck, in my first job as a welder, in 1979, I made $8.50 an hour. In the deep south, also non union. In today's money, that equates to around $19 an hour.
We are not going to ease the coming shortage of welders by offering substandard wages.
When I was a laid off welding engineer, Kelly tried to offer me some welding engineering jobs at the bottom of the going pay scale. Good thing I held out. I doubled my pay.
I guess it depends where in the country you are.
Welders here in the midwest seem to be paid depending on their skill. A guy just welding together stainless filter mesh for an assembly line I wouldnt pay over $15 dollars for. Now someone that can hand fabricate an aluminum radiator or oil cooler using welding, brazing and soldering....that would be a $25+ job. Keep in mind that an entry level mechanical engineer is about $18 here as well. Most of the time it seems many of the welders are overpaid though....$30 an hour for a guy that only knows Mig?? Common where do I sign up? Glad I went to school....so I could earn $23....not get paid for overtime....never see my family....yeah. Ok done ranting.
CarmenElectrode
08-29-2008, 12:41 PM
The fact of the matter is it is not Kelly... it is the company itself that wants a temporary work force. There are a lot of benefits-- to the company-- to not bring people on full-time: no benefits, the expense shows up as "outside services" on the P&L so it looks better to investors and stockholders who think the company is keeping employee expenses low. Also, no payroll taxes to pay, no social security to match.... and best of all if work slows down the company can just cut people loose.
I worked for Kelly on and off for years. It served me well at the time as I did not want a permanent job, and allowed me to quickly get a paycheck so money was coming in immediately. Several times I was offered a full-time job through those contacts I made.
obewan
08-29-2008, 12:48 PM
>>A guy just welding together stainless filter mesh for an assembly line I wouldnt pay over $15 dollars for.<<
It really depends on what kind of weld is required with stainless mesh. Where I work, it is one of the highest skilled tasks. Higher even than thin wall tube welds. If the mesh has to seal, it takes a lot of skill. We use braided mesh to enclose fuel pump wires that go submerged in helicopter fuel tanks. If they leak, an explosion may occur. Trust me, it has happened too. That is why our mesh weldor gets $23. It is usually a two step process. First the mesh has to be bonded together. Then, the mesh has to be welded to the mating part. The mesh is hard to bond. It just wants to ball up the ends of the individual strands. It is not a no brainer job.
choche
08-29-2008, 08:04 PM
>>A guy just welding together stainless filter mesh for an assembly line I wouldnt pay over $15 dollars for.<<
It really depends on what kind of weld is required with stainless mesh. Where I work, it is one of the highest skilled tasks. Higher even than thin wall tube welds. If the mesh has to seal, it takes a lot of skill. We use braided mesh to enclose fuel pump wires that go submerged in helicopter fuel tanks. If they leak, an explosion may occur. Trust me, it has happened too. That is why our mesh weldor gets $23. It is usually a two step process. First the mesh has to be bonded together. Then, the mesh has to be welded to the mating part. The mesh is hard to bond. It just wants to ball up the ends of the individual strands. It is not a no brainer job.
A-men Obe. Wish everybody thought the way you do.
down19992000
08-30-2008, 10:32 AM
Might be good for someone that has some experience, not someone with 3 or more years. They are looking for a candidate that can lay a good bead on stainless mesh.
Plus, NC is not the best when it comes to pay rates :(
Anyway, if anyone is interested or knows anyone interested, let me know.
i have to disagree with you on that i live about an hour from there and my company pays $19.78 an hour for plain old mig welding. it is ingersoll rand in mocksville nc
Donald Branscom
08-30-2008, 06:01 PM
Why not just clean houses or do sheetrock or fix cars.
You can get more money.
Look at the shortage of mechanics in the US
They were low balled for so long most of them quit and told their sons to do something else.
Last week i saw an ad that wanted a expert TIG welder and machinest and shipping.
$15.00 phr. Gett'n crazy people !
blkfirsprk
09-01-2008, 08:11 PM
That's about what I am making as a Tig welder here in Arkansas. It's my first welding job and I don't plan on keeping it a long time though. The only thing holding me to the job is that I'm still in college and I can't leave the area yet.
Donald Branscom
09-04-2008, 04:10 AM
That's about what I am making as a Tig welder here in Arkansas. It's my first welding job and I don't plan on keeping it a long time though. The only thing holding me to the job is that I'm still in college and I can't leave the area yet.
I understand,
It is always good to have different experiences on your resume.
Just develope your skills and when you are in that kind of situation always
keep in mind what YOU are getting out of the experience.
Sometimes go on job interviews during your lunch hour. Can't hurt right?
Since you already have a job you have nothing to lose.
flatbustedbroke
09-04-2008, 11:12 PM
Not sure about the rates in the south but I know they are only willing to pay $12 an hour for a tig welder with 2 years exp. and $8.50 for mig in this area.
Fred Paul Jones
09-05-2008, 12:02 AM
Look at teachers pay. And then look at welders pay. Note the difference? Now go back 20 years. Note the difference? Minot ND. Town of 38k folks. 50 million a year to educate the kids. Go figure. Bean counters, gotta lovem.
poboyracin
09-14-2008, 01:35 PM
Combination uphill stick and tig welders around here(Baton Rouge, La) in the plants make 26-35 an hour with just a hood. If the job is more than 25 miles from your house, per diem comes in anywhere between 50-150 per day. If you have your own rig and get it hired, that's another 20+ per hour. Pipelining usually pays more. All contract work with insurance and consumables furnished.
Combination uphill stick and tig welders around here(Baton Rouge, La) in the plants make 26-35 an hour with just a hood. If the job is more than 25 miles from your house, per diem comes in anywhere between 50-150 per day. If you have your own rig and get it hired, that's another 20+ per hour. Pipelining usually pays more. All contract work with insurance and consumables furnished.
same around here,,in houston area,,plus the doubletime jobs,,it prob is a good job for someone breaking out,you have to start somewhere,,and really,shop work pays alot less but is good for up and comers,,or just the guys that like shop work
wagin
09-21-2008, 01:38 AM
In reading al the post made here, the various stated average wage concerns me. Most of you quoted in the 20-s/hr. Is this the going rate know? I live in Charlotte NC and the job I just got laid off from after 12yrs. paid 32+/hr......the job I left to go there was paying 19/hr. 12 yrs ago. Also a local turbine company has been testing for a while in attempts to find a handful of non-destructive certifiable welders, I think they pay 29+ starting. Also, a somewhat local papermill was interviewing for welders a while back, they also pay in the 30s/hr. And what of outages these days?
Engloid
09-21-2008, 02:31 AM
Hank3rd,
With due respect, I hope you are unable to find anybody to fill the positions. As mentioned, an experienced welder working at that rate is degrading the already low average wages of the trade. I live in TN, and wouldn't walk in the door of a company that I knew was looking to pay that rate. You'd not even get me in for an interview or welding test...unless I was out of work and hoping I could talk you into more after a weld test.
I understand your position though. It's a rock and a hard place. The company probably wants you to find top notch help, but they want to pay peanuts. Sadly, you're in the position where the "rubber hits the road." The skilled welders don't want to work for that, and the company thinks they're paying good enough to get good help.
It's all typical of the view employers have towards welders.
I recently talked to a local machine shop that was referred to me for some welding work. They have a consistent product and wanted a full time guy to fill an opening. I spoke to them and they simply weren't willing (or able) to pay much. They said they once paid as much as $14 to a guy that had been there for a couple years. I told them I'd have to have at least $20 to take the job. Since he was way behind, he agreed to pay me that in the evenings until he got caught up. He hired somebody else for a lower rate to work during the days. My goal is to prove to him that there's a difference in a $14 guy and a $20 guy. So far, I'm doing in 4-5 hours his other guys have taken 8-10 hours to do. That said, I really don't want to work full time for him, even at $20. I just joined the local union and the pay rate is better.
partagas
09-21-2008, 09:05 PM
Then do not move to the NY area. I live upstate Capital area, and the going rate is from 10.00 ( mom and pop shop) to 16-18 for a Tig welder on 15 Mil Alum to build MRI's. Their are once and a while a starting 18.00 but they are sweat shops. With high turn over.
SR20steve
09-21-2008, 09:25 PM
AHAHAHA!!!! :D Is this some kind of pratical joke? Im sure your gonna find a whole bunch of guys beating down your door to weld for you. Around here you wouldn't make that little working at burger king, let alone TIG welding SS.
I'd say go down to home depot and pick up some workers standing on the corner, LOL!!
admswelding
09-22-2008, 07:08 PM
Tig welders for that kind of money.:laugh::laugh::laugh:
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