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longevity-inc.com
09-26-2008, 05:18 PM
James Hill welding the Missouri State Mascot with the Longevity WeldMate LT-200D Tig Welder.

First we must thank the welder, James Hill, for his fine work and pictures. We are extremely happy that he was able to show what our welder can do and obviously, you guys can see that James is a professional!

Here are a few pictures of the Bear. If you have any questions, please feel free to email him at jkill@salisbury.edu

He does free lance work as well, and you can ask him how he built the bear from scratch and how the Longevity Welder has been holding up for him! We are thankful for our partnership with James and look forward to a long term relationship with him.

Unbelievable work! Thanks James for choosing Longevity to handle your welding needs. You can see more project pictures from James on our forums at www.longevity-inc.com/forum

They will be available shortly!

Thank You all,

Simon

zapster
09-26-2008, 09:16 PM
Why is it in pic one that the tungeston is..well...about 4" from the subject (give or take) yet
still throws an arc? :dizzy:

Comon now..


But we will see tomorrow..

I will have the same basic machine in my mitts and we will see about this...:rolleyes:..:laugh:

...zap!

wintermute
09-26-2008, 09:20 PM
my guess is that was him running a long bead and then pulling back...no arc, just the tungsten glowing red friggin' hot. I get the same thing with my ThermalArc Dragster 85...the air cooled torch allows that tungsten to get to the point where you could practically melt steel just by touching it with the tungsten after the arc is off.

--Wintermute

gaustin
09-26-2008, 09:23 PM
Thats just the tungsten glowing after breaking the arc.

specter
09-26-2008, 09:23 PM
very nice work

zapster
09-26-2008, 09:46 PM
Look again...

Mask down..

Filler in hand..:rolleyes:


...zap!

gaustin
09-26-2008, 09:53 PM
He Just Broke the Arc. There is NO arc. Do you see an ARC?

wintermute
09-26-2008, 09:54 PM
I still think it's just the tungsten glowing hot Zap...I've honestly sat there with my torch a number of times, mask still down, filler still in hand, and the tungsten glowing white hot just like in that picture :)

--Wintermute

zapster
09-26-2008, 09:58 PM
Then what is the post purge set at zero?

Give me a break...

The argon will cool that off in 2 seconds set at 5 sec post purge...

Like I said...

We will see about this tomorrow when I have it in my hands.

:drinkup:

...zap!

wintermute
09-26-2008, 10:05 PM
2 seconds...then there is somethin' wrong with my little welder or my torch....I've run 6" beads in 1/4" plate and it takes about 10-15 sec before it stops glowing afterwards with the gas running... Check it out tomorrow, I think you'll notice that it stays pretty glowing hot afterwards :)

--Wintermute

zapster
09-26-2008, 10:11 PM
Ummmmm No..

The tungeston will be at normal color after 2 seconds ..

But the CUP will be glowing red for awhile...

The cup is not glowing in the pic.

I wll have to prove this once again tomorrow now won't I..:rolleyes:

This gets lame after awhile...

...zap!

wintermute
09-26-2008, 10:23 PM
I just ran a bead to check...my tungsten stays glowing for at least 5 seconds afterwards...is that just something funky with my torch?

banshee35
09-26-2008, 10:29 PM
i guess the filler is arcing too? its still red. in one of the pictures you can see the light reflecting off surroundings, white light, sorry dude, thats not an arc in that first pic.

zapster
09-26-2008, 10:35 PM
Maybe your's does but mine don't..

Watercooled the diffrence?
Could be...

Side by side test tomorrow..:cool2:

...zap!

zapster
09-26-2008, 10:43 PM
You are right there is no arc..

But to me I look at it like he is going in for the weld..

Sorry for the diffrent perspecive..


The side by side will go on as planned...


...zap!

Brett
09-26-2008, 10:44 PM
Let me start with complimenting the weldor on a beautiful piece of art work.


BUT


Am I the only person here that feels this thread is inappropriate?
Whilst people (myself included) post their buisness names and present jobs here . The motive behind the thread here is blatant self promotion , not the presentation of a job that you feel would be of interest to others.
I have thought that was the spirit of this sub-forum.

You have your own Sub forum Longevity


Brett Thompson.

zapster
09-26-2008, 10:48 PM
Someone buy this man a beer..:drinkup:

...zap!

Tensaiteki
09-26-2008, 10:50 PM
The picture y'all are referring to was obviously taken immediately (within a couple of seconds) after the arc was terminated.

If you look at the end of the filler rod, it too is still glowing. Furthermore, the motion blur of the rod and hand and bend of the rod show that they are being moved up quite rapidly as that hand is probably going to raise the hood. If one were to try and take a picture looking directly at an arc with an average digital camera, you would end up with a picture that is almost entirely washed out (bright white) or have a bright white spot surrounded by very dark black as the camera tries to compensate for the brightness.

How long a tungsten glows after the arc is broken depends on the torch, the amperage and the size of the tungsten (there is no 'o' in tungsten, zappy). A small tungsten used at low amps in a water cooled torch will cool down very rapidly while a larger tungsten used at high amperage in an air-cooled torch will glow longer.

Wintermute, there is definitely nothing wrong with your torch. I have the same thing happens on Miller,
Lincoln, Chinese, and any other type of welder regardless of whether its a transformer or inverter.

Personally, I try to keep the torch held at the end of the weld after stopping the arc until the post-flow stops (which is after the tungsten stops glowing). I use an auto darkening hood so I can see the tungsten still glowing long after it has cooled to the point that it's not bright enough to bee seen through a fixed shade hood.

For what it's worth, I don't really have a problem with this thread being here. I like that Longevity actually included the pictures in the post rather than trying to post links to the pictures that are on another forum (that requires registration to view) as has been done here before, by other members.

farmersamm
09-26-2008, 11:00 PM
I suppose someone has to foot the bill for the site. So I guess once in a while ya gotta look at a little advertising. Same with TV.

Can't blame the guy for tryin', but as long as it doesn't get outta hand, it ain't hurtin' anybody.

Most folks know what they're gonna buy.

longevity-inc.com
09-26-2008, 11:00 PM
Guys,
The post was submitted with full permission from James with credit given and you are damn right that we are not only proud of James for the outstanding work but also ecstatic that James chose to use out machine because of it's light weight and power to weld this masterpiece. He is obviously skilled!

Amazing work!

Brett
09-26-2008, 11:10 PM
Guys,
The post was submitted with full permission from James with credit given and you are damn right that we are not only proud of James for the outstanding work but also ecstatic that James chose to use out machine because of it's light weight and power to weld this masterpiece. He is obviously skilled!

Amazing work!

I am sure it was submitted with permisson , and I agree it is Amazing work.

I was only putting forward my thoughts on what I perceived to be your PRIMARY motive , and that it would be more appropriate in your sponsored Sub Forum. You have the right to be proud that a skilled tradesman chose your product, and you should be.

Personally I feel that this thread diminishes WW.


Brett

gaustin
09-26-2008, 11:17 PM
What is the material and filler metal he is using. Is that bronze?

kepe
09-26-2008, 11:44 PM
James Hill welding the Missouri State Mascot with the Longevity WeldMate LT-200D Tig Welder.

advertisement #1

First we must thank the welder, James Hill, for his fine work and pictures. We are extremely happy that he was able to show what our welder can do and obviously, you guys can see that James is a professional!

advertisement #2

Here are a few pictures of the Bear. If you have any questions, please feel free to email him at jkill@salisbury.edu

Why can't he join WW and give his email address? ...It appears that you have opened the guy up to spam by publically producing his email. Not too bright.

He does free lance work as well, and you can ask him how he built the bear from scratch and how the Longevity Welder has been holding up for him! We are thankful for our partnership with James and look forward to a long term relationship with him.

advertisement #3


Unbelievable work! Thanks James for choosing Longevity to handle your welding needs. You can see more project pictures from James on our forums at www.longevity-inc.com/forum

advertisements #4 and #5

They will be available shortly!

Thank You all,

Simon

I think more advertising fees need to be leveed, since this thread is outside of the specific product forum.

specter
09-27-2008, 08:50 AM
Almost looks like a cast bronze statue except you can see the telltale signs of the panels welded together. He looks like he used a method I once saw being done by an artsian in Vermont. The artsian 1st carved the pattern in wood then hand formed copper panels and secondly assembled the panels together using soldier.

Your right Simon it would be interesting to see how that unit is holding up for him. All that painstaking work in detail can take its toll on both the unit and the individual.

Jim also looks like the poster child for welding safety in that outfit of his.

Capnbondo
09-27-2008, 02:02 PM
Why can't he join WW and give his email address? ...It appears that you have opened the guy up to spam by publically producing his email. Not too bright.



I am guessing he didn't pay full price for his machine- this thread+giving out his email is probably part of whatever "deal" they made with him.

Overall, it seem that the marketing approach of these companies is a little on tacky side to say the least.

longevity-inc.com
09-27-2008, 02:30 PM
Actually, he bought a machine from our dealers so he did not pay us, but he did buy with no discount from what i understand.

He has a Lincoln welder, but he mentioned to me that it was too big for him to haul with him on the jobs. That is why he choose to get our machine. I think he is a pretty stand up guy and other than me asking to see his work and asking for permission in posting it, he will tell you that he found us on his own and has no affiliation with our company other than choosing our unit to weld with.

He does some amazing work and I am happy to see that he liked our product. And yes, we want everyone to know with due credit to James that our equipment is capable of producing some of the best work i have seen done by and with any welder out there! Not only is James recognized for his great work, but I am happy to see people surprised and excited to know that a welder that sells for so much less than the leading brands is capable of producing quality stuff!

Simon

longevity-inc.com
09-27-2008, 02:55 PM
What is the material and filler metal he is using. Is that bronze?

After speaking to James today, the bear weighs about 800lbs and is about 1/4 inch thick with bronze, which is much harder to weld.

gaustin
09-27-2008, 06:37 PM
1/4" Bronze Takes some heat to weld. I have repaire some props with Ampcotrode 46 and it took some pretty serious preheat and amperage. These were not for pleasure boats.

longevity-inc.com
09-27-2008, 07:39 PM
Oh Yeah, James mentioned he had to cool off the work often. I am hoping he has some time to go on our forum and explain his welding process.

He says he loves the welder and the duty cycle never reached the limit.

Thanks

Brett
09-29-2008, 05:48 PM
After speaking to James today, the bear weighs about 800lbs and is about 1/4 inch thick with bronze, which is much harder to weld.


That is a great endorsement of your product Longevity

longevity-inc.com
09-29-2008, 05:57 PM
That is a great endorsement of your product Longevity

Not only is it a great endoresement, but the work done is amazing! I give credit to James welding one of the most beautiful pieces i have seen on this site and others. Jame's work proves that our machines are capable of producing such work.

Simon

737mechanic
10-05-2008, 09:16 AM
Amazing what people have problems with in this world now. I have seen many post here that are showing off a certain Lincoln or a miller model and no one cries about them advertising those machines.

I guess from now on when someone post a picture of there project they shouldn't reveal in any way what brand or model equipment they used.

Brett
10-06-2008, 06:20 PM
Amazing what people have problems with in this world now. I have seen many post here that are showing off a certain Lincoln or a miller model and no one cries about them advertising those machines.




I assume your referring to my posts 737mechanic ?

If you are read ,them carefully, all of them, including the last one. Not myopically .


I guess from now on when someone post a picture of there project they shouldn't reveal in any way what brand or model equipment they used.

How many have on the bottom a link to the latest deals ??? Motive again.
Jeez your transparent !!

Brett

longevity-inc.com
10-06-2008, 06:29 PM
I assume your referring to my posts 737mechanic ?

If you are read ,them carefully, all of them, including the last one. Not myopically .




How many have on the bottom a link to the latest deals ??? Motive again.
Jeez your transparent !!

Brett

Brett,

This is not the place for you to cry over whether you feel we are advertising or not on a forum, which is our paid section. Do not ruing someone's work and our accomplishments and do not attack people who actually appreciate nice work and equipment.


Simon

Brett
10-06-2008, 08:35 PM
Brett,

This is not the place for you to cry over whether you feel we are advertising or not on a forum, which is our paid section. Do not ruing someone's work and our accomplishments and do not attack people who actually appreciate nice work and equipment.


Simon


I was not doing that Longevity , again I refer to my post where I said it was an endorsment of your product.

Dont attack me,

Screw it, do what you like.

longevity-inc.com
10-06-2008, 08:38 PM
I was not doing that Longevity , again I refer to my post where I said it was an endorsment of your product.

Dont attack me,

Screw it, do what you like.

Brett,

I apologize for being defensive. I thought you were on here like the others just complaining.

Sorry,

Simon

Brett
10-06-2008, 08:45 PM
Brett,

I apologize for being defensive. I thought you were on here like the others just complaining.

Sorry,

Simon


Thanks Simon , apology accepted and post forgotten.

Brett

deadman1474
10-11-2008, 02:33 PM
Guys,
The post was submitted with full permission from James with credit given and you are damn right that we are not only proud of James for the outstanding work but also ecstatic that James chose to use out machine because of it's light weight and power to weld this masterpiece. He is obviously skilled!

Amazing work!

What is a guy from Maryland doing welding a Missouri state Mascot

6010
10-11-2008, 06:54 PM
Thanks Simon for posting this, it was very interesting. But if I had my pick I would take the woman in the background, and let him keep the bear. :laugh:

This man is truly an artist.

flatbustedbroke
10-12-2008, 12:30 AM
That's not our mascot it isn't even one of the bears on our state seal.

gaustin
10-12-2008, 10:06 AM
Missouri State University has a bear as a mascot.

The Bronze Bear Award includes a framed
resolution and a 45-pound, 18-inch Bronze
Bear in an upright position mounted on a
base. The Bronze Bear Award was designed by
former Missouri State art professor Dr. Jim
Hill. A 14-foot statue version of the Bronze
Bear mounted on a 3-foot concrete base is
located just north of Missouri State’s Plaster
Student Union.

flatbustedbroke
10-12-2008, 11:09 AM
That's quite a stretch there Gaustin. He claims it is the state mascot not a state college mascot and there are 5 state colleges here in Missouri and the one that would be most recognized would be the tiger. The actual state animal would be the mule. And those are upright bears as you posted.

specter
10-12-2008, 12:24 PM
GGeeeeeeshhhhh!! I don't care who's mascot, whatever state, etc, etc,

I have worked with bronze plating before!! Its takes alot of work and experience to be able to create something like that no matter who's equipment he used.

"GREAT WORK"

gaustin
10-12-2008, 03:44 PM
That's quite a stretch there Gaustin. He claims it is the state mascot not a state college mascot and there are 5 state colleges here in Missouri and the one that would be most recognized would be the tiger. The actual state animal would be the mule. And those are upright bears as you posted.


The other coincidence being "James Hill", "Jim Hill."

I am not stretching at all . I was making a statement regarding the relationship of bears to "Missouri State". The coincidence also that this one I referred to is BRONZE, and the Persons Name is "James Hill" AND "Missouri State" is the name of the university. Those terms were use in the search query

It is my opinion that that is FAR from a stretch but my perception could be a bit off. I don't currently live in Missiouri and was only there for 9 years and thus am NOT an expert. Of course that was the 1st statte I ever welded in. Maybe that helps !

I have spent plenty of hours at SMSU as a youngster but only remember they had some awsome banks for skating around the tennis courts ! Couldn't tell you if they have bears or not.

It appears numerous bronze bears have been associatedd with Missouri state. http://www.news.missouristate.edu/releases/60479.htm

Hopefully I haven't misled anyone here.

FabItUp
10-16-2008, 02:34 AM
First off, Nice bear. It is a cast bronze. I have assembled plenty of them. Usually Most art foundries do not have over a 75# capacity.

The bear is on the state seal. Look at a badge of any Mo. officer. I know, I make most of their copper badges.

See

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb64/heinekendesign/stamp%20stuff%20n%20more/IMG_0009.jpg


The one Second from the left is for the Mo (st louis) sherifs badges.

The long appearing arch is due to the forced perspective. The welding is actually happening on the side you are not seeing, but the radius of the back of the bear throws of the perception.

I just cant believe he welded that whole thing (1/4") bronze with that little pocket welder. It can't have over a 20-30% duty cycle???? My 351 syncrowave might even get a bit warm welding that allllllll day. Must have had to go fo a smoke break every 10 minutes.

Just my .02 again.

Bill

longevity-inc.com
10-17-2008, 07:17 PM
Bill,

The unit actually has a 60% duty cycle, which is perfect for longer welding periods. You can contact James to ask him how he did it!

Thanks for viewing,

Simon