how many here run 7014?

[kmaysob]

do you use ac or dc? i bought some a while back and ran it dc on the precision tig, i really wasn't impressed with the rod. (i know its not the machine, it runs everything else really nice) today i needed to run a couple of beads and didn't feel like dragging the big machine out. so i took the buzz box out and decided to try the 7014. it ran beautiful. so what do you use?

[BNF]

I've ran it over the years when the only machine I had was the "old buzz box". It did everything it was suppose to and I was pleased with the results. Since I upgraded to a DC machine, I've yet to burn one in along time.

[sn0border88]

If I remember right 7014 ran like butter for me on ac, 150-170 some amps for 1/8" but I could be wrong

[El_Lloydeo]

AC , DC+ or DC- Runs good for me at 115 - 120 amps on DCEP.

[gordfraser]

Dcep @120

[DesertRider33]

I run it occasionally, always on DC+. It runs similar to 7018 but the slag is heavier and harder to clean off.

[David R]

Try it on DC-, it runs better just like 6013. I use it occasionally. I only run it on DC, no need for AC.

Here is a small job I did with it.

http://weldingweb.com/showthread.php?t=25499&highlight=bobcat

David

[Flux]

7014 runs better on DC- than DC+

[DesertRider33]

Thanks, I'll try it DC- next time. Nice job on the plow. :)

[tresi]

I've ran it over the years when the only machine I had was the "old buzz box". It did everything it was suppose to and I was pleased with the results. Since I upgraded to a DC machine, I've yet to burn one in along time.

X2. I can do everything it can do with 7018 plus 7018 lets me do vertical up and overhead. 7014 is a good rod within it's limits but it's just more rod laying around if you can run 7018.

[El_Lloydeo]

This electrode is run quite often with DC- because of its good operating characteristisc on DC-. 6012, 6013, and 7014 are all kind of similar because they belong to the F2 group (fast follow electrodes) which are used on DC- for the welding of sheetmetals at relatively high speeds. DC- is preferred on thinner steels because you will get a more shallow penetration compared to DC+. I'm with tresi on this one, if you can use a 7018 instead, go for it. But use it on DC+.

[kmaysob]

oh i most definatly agree on the 7018. i run it all the time on the pt. i do have some 7018 ac that i bought way back when the buzz box was all i had. for the most part out of all of the rods i have i mostly run 7018 and 6013. i just decided to try it out yesterday

[Nitesky]

A Welder at work told me about 7014 aka "farmer rod". He suggested I try some out. He said I might like it better than the 6011 I usually fall back on when farm welding.

I bought some 7014 to weld washers on one end of pieces of re-bar. Had to make something long, with a head like a nail for anchoring railroad ties to our clay soil. Was making a retaining wall on some sloping land out back of the house.

I kind of liked how 7014 flowed on DC+. I had some 5' x 5/8" lengths that I inserted through drilled holes in the ties and then pounded with a BFH until the washer pulled the tie down securely. Some of the blows were glancing and not one washer broke off. :drinkup:

I'm sure 7014 has its place. It will have a place here anyway.

[welderShane]

I also used 7014 on dc+ before. It flowed pretty good. I'll have to try it on dc-

[Jim Riley]

http://www.hobartbrothers.com/pdf/datasheets/Hobart14A.pdf

http://www.hobartbrothers.com/products/

70k tensile equivalent of 6013. Increased penetration in DCEP, better fill characteristics in DCEN. Arc stabilizers for AC.

[David R]

RECOMMENDED WELDING PROCEDURES:
GENERAL: Electrode negative, work positive (DCEN); AC; or electrode positive, work negative (DCEP)
ARC LENGTH: Short (1/8” or less)
FLAT: Angle electrode 10-15° from 90° with higher heat than E6012 electrodes
VERTICAL-UP: Use slight whipping or weaving technique
VERTICAL-DOWN: Use higher amperage and faster travel, staying ahead of puddle
OVERHEAD: Use slight whipping motion
STORAGE: 60°F to 100°F, (20° to 40°C) and below 50% relative humidity or holding oven
@ 100° to 120°F (38° to 49°C)
RECONDITIONING: 250°F to 300°F, (121° to 149°C) for one hour @ temperature.

Copied from the link above, worth repeating.

You can drag with 7014 too. Adjust the heat so the flux and wire burn off at the same rate. Same drag angle as above.

David :)

[Jim Riley]

Thanks David for getting it out front. I live by Hobart and Lincolns cut sheets.

Grew up in upstate, Wayne and Ontario counties.