Everlast plasma cutter PowerPlasma 60 received for Test

[specter]

Well the Everlast Cut 60 came today. I got back to shop late from VA hospital. Today was my presurgical appointments for my foot surgery on Friday.

Basically all I did was open tha package to make sure the DHL Gorilla's didn't manhandle that package and break anything,!!!!! Well turns out it came UPS and not DHL despite the clear shipping label holder saying DHL.

Machine is much heavier than the orginal Mosfet unit. Back of unit has cooling fan that is huge is comparison to most I have seen,

Torch, consumables, manual and all I will review tommorrow. I did notice Power cord on unit does not have a plug installed. I will be interested in reading the manual to see if this is an auto sensing voltage unit.

Did quick notice of torch and noticed that it has a rolling stand off that is easy installed or removed off the unit. Standoff will be very nice feature in test for following cutting guides.

More to come tommorrow.

Tom

[EVERLAST]

Well the Everlast Cut 60 came today. I got back to shop late from VA hospital. Today was my presurgical appointments for my foot surgery on Friday.

Basically all I did was open tha package to make sure the DHL Gorilla's didn't manhandle that package and break anything,!!!!! Well turns out it came UPS and not DHL despite the clear shipping label holder saying DHL.

Machine is much heavier than the orginal Mosfet unit. Back of unit has cooling fan that is huge is comparison to most I have seen,

Torch, consumables, manual and all I will review tommorrow. I did notice Power cord on unit does not have a plug installed. I will be interested in reading the manual to see if this is an auto sensing voltage unit.

Did quick notice of torch and noticed that it has a rolling stand off that is easy installed or removed off the unit. Standoff will be very nice feature in test for following cutting guides.

More to come tommorrow.

Tom

Tom , i am glad you like the unit so far .. but please remember that manual that comes with the unit now is not the best . Mike is working on new manul and it will be ready for official release date of new line (late march)

[specter]

Yep !! That manual needs to be zapped with a cattle prod!! Minus the cover page there are Sixteen (16) pages

Nine (9) out of the total sixteen (16) are on safety

One (1) out of sixteen (16) is on Introduction, Operating Condition and Work Surrounding, Main Technical Specification, and finally something titled DESCRIPTION OF THE ERECTION

One (1) out of sixteen (16) is on The Sketch of Function And Connecting

One Half (1/2) page is on Method of OperationTwo thirds of a page

Two thirds (2/3) of a page is on General Troubles and Problem Solving

One page of a DC Inverter and Plasma Cutting Wiring Diagram

One page of CD Inverter and Plasma Cutting Machine Component List

Two more Warning pages

One page of Accessories list, packing checklist and testing inspection signoff.

To their Credit this manual is much better than what I received months ago. BUT!!

Its far to limited on Technical Specs should also be in normal SAE measurements not just MM. Air pressure should have Psi in addition to MPa
In the sketch includes something on the back of the unit that appears to be a water separator but one is not included in the package.


Now Gettting back to the DESCRIPTION of ERECTION (Yeah Folks I know what your thinking) That section of the manual has four (4) sentences that further into the reading sound more like Directions on the cable connections and proper grounding of the work piece.

Now back to the unit the power cord does not come with a plug on the end as does the Hypertherm. The power cord on the unit has one black wire on blue wire and one red wire and the Operation Instruction aka Owner's Manual does not provide wiring instructions or a diagram. The online manual shows a power cord with blue, brown and green wires. Now I am really cofused because thinking like a normal buyer would why the difference in wire colors when the national Electrical Code is Black=Hot, red=Hot, white+neutral, and green =ground. Not the hypertherm powercord comes with a standard CSA plug for 200-240vac and the uit has an autosensing capacity to know what voltage is input and adjust to meet the needs of the unit.

I looked for the contact information in the manual and there is not phone numbers or internet site info enclosed. I went to welding web clicked on the Everlast symbol and it took me to their site. At their site I found a one size fits all manual that includes Cut 40/50/60 and 100D Plasma Cutters. No contact info tin there. In the support section of the site I located the local CA phone number but no toll free number. So I went to their home page of the site and found the contact info there with a toll free phone number. I called the phone number and got the usual for this push that and for that push this number. Eventually got the ext for Alex/Oleg and phoned him to ask about the wiring. No one in office at 1:07 PM EST so left a message. Oh well 1st test of support system.


As for the Hypertherm well it comes with a Quick Setup Card, a Guide of Torch Parts, Torch Assembly, Machine Torch Part, and Machine Torch Assembly. A VERY Thorough Operator Manual 8 pagesof Safety, 8 pages of Specifications, 8 pages of Power Supply Setup including gas supply connection with water/particle, oil & Oil vapor Filters, 30 pages of Torch Setup with what I consider to be the best charts for consumaable selection, arc/amp selection, torch to work distance, pierce timeas well as recommend & max cut speed to voltage all done to whatever type of metal you are cutting. And Oh yeah a very very done instructional dvd showing setup and operation,20 pages on the units Operation, 12 pages on maintenance and repair and finally 9 pages of Parts. All of Hypertherms documents are also available online at their site.

[jrw159]

Specter,

So the unit comes without a plug for the power chord?? Is that not like buying a truck with no steering wheel. :laugh:



jrw159

[specter]

Well I am not defending Everlast what they provided is the CE version. Many folks in fact prefer not to have a power plug on the end of the power cord so they can adapt the cord to fit their needs! Such as direct wire into ciruit breaker panel or to exchange out with say a dryer plug when dryer is not in use or and electrical range when the range is not in use. Many folks may also only have one 220 oulet in their garage or shop that has to be used also with air compressor.

I only phone him about an hour ago to request assistance so give him some time. I also sent him an email several minutes ago.

The industry time to respond to phone calls is usually 24-48 hours and 24-72 hours for email.

[EVERLAST]

Well I am not defending Everlast what they provided is the CE version. Many folks in fact prefer not to have a power plug on the end of the power cord so they can adapt the cord to fit their needs! Such as direct wire into ciruit breaker panel or to exchange out with say a dryer plug when dryer is not in use or and electrical range when the range is not in use. Many folks may also only have one 220 oulet in their garage or shop that has to be used also with air compressor.

I only phone him about an hour ago to request assistance so give him some time. I also sent him an email several minutes ago.

The industry time to respond to phone calls is usually 24-48 hours and 24-72 hours for email.

Specter.. you testing a sample unit ... i told you that units will be in stock late march
all mass production units will come with 220v plug and good manual. I send the unit for you to test performance and not how good or bad manual is on sample unit. Please keep that in mind. We open 10am-6pm PST

[lugweld]

Specter post some pics as you can please at least of the external unit.

[specter]

OK folks Oleg returned my phone call in about 1 1/2 hrs not a bad response time.

Ok what I have is a preproduction/sample unit prior to actual public release for sale. "The evaluation and test is based on what was received." A manual was received so a manual was evaluated

Its also understood that the manual sent for this unit wasn't the right manual and the actual manual is still in development, and final editing. When the proper manual is completed for this unit a new review of the manual will be provided.

The actual performance will hopefully be within a week.When I spoke to oleg I told him testing will be delayed for for a week due to fact I amm going into VA hospital for foot surgery on Friday and will be off my feet for at least three days.

As for pictures!since this is a unit still in production and not fully tested and evaluated or released for public sales I was asked not to take pictures and release them to the public until the actual production is done and the units fully evaluated and tested and then released from the factory to the sales folks for sale to the public.

[specter]

I may have missed something here but I do not see anything on this post has been edited by them or deleted. All my posts in their entire text are still here.
Are you talking about another post?????

[EVERLAST_SUPPORT]

Spector,

We are working on the manuals. More than "just" a plasma cutter manual. So do not be to hard on us there. Air, ground (clean spot), set the amps and cut. I know you know that drill. Total re-writes of all manuals are being done for the first shipment.

You have a prototype run, not what the customer will receive far as the packaged final unit, we are changing a few things, but give it a try as it sits and let us know what you think.

Funny (sort of side note) on the toe, I had neighborhood kids over Sunday helping me with a trailer and they managed to drop a trailer tongue on my pinky toe while we moved it (yes broke). Good luck on the VA and foot surgery. Never had any idea that I had that many nerves in that toe.

[specter]

well again if dissatified posting it in the Other Manufacturers Forum where they cannot delte or alter it.
But again try to keep the comments constructive not destuctive.

[EVERLAST_SUPPORT]

well again if dissatified posting it in the Other Manufacturers Forum where they cannot delte or alter it.
But again try to keep the comments constructive not destuctive.

That would be my thought as well.

Why come here to the Everlast forum unless you own an Everlast product with a question or were looking for information on them? Or reviewing them.

To come and just put unrelated posts in a thread does not help the person with real questions, issue, etc.

[specter]

Hi Again jrw159 I do not work for Everlast. I am not sure why you posted upon this thread. They call that HiJacking.

This thread is about an person performing an Honest Evaluation and Test of an Everlast. If you wanted to ask a question about my evaluation & test fine!! But so far what you have posted in this thread as nothing to do with my evaluation or test.

I suggested that if your dissatified with Everlast post your own thread. You said they deleted it. I suggested posting your thread in the Other's Manufacturers forum.

Again I do not work for Everlast! Nor do I own any of their products , and your spades, respect, lanquage, hostility, or what have nothing to do with this thread I posted.

I am asking that your reply's in this forum please stop as they have nothing to do with the thread I posted. I ask Everlast to either delete or move the posts to the Other's Manufacturers forum.

I am tom and I endorse this action

[tnjind]

I am wondering how long the consumables last. Sounds like this might be a nice piece of equipment.
I am happy with my Thermaldynamics but would like a cheaper priced alternative.
Maybe this would work out.

[EVERLAST_SUPPORT]

I am wondering how long the consumables last. Sounds like this might be a nice piece of equipment.
I am happy with my Thermaldynamics but would like a cheaper priced alternative.
Maybe this would work out.

The 60 amp torch and new 80 amp torches consumables last quite some time for me.

The 60 amp is a HF start, the 80 amp is pilot arc. The pilot arc I have is less than a month old and I am testing it out as it is new. So far I am very impressed as the pilot arc needs to burn a little to work. I have cut 1"x6" plate a couple times and a lot of 1/8" angle. The 60 amp I have used for months and maybe used 3-4 sets, however I do let others use it/abuse it.

I am still on the first set on the new torch, I will try to remember this post when I swap to the second one.

[EVERLAST]

Tom .. check the post .. your evaluation was not edited in any way

[tnjind]

I saw this exact same post then it was gone now it's back. WTH?

[tnjind]

Gone again, weird.

[EVERLAST]

Specter deleted his post and doing new one right now ...

[specter]

LOOK FOLKS THIS IS GETTING CRAZY HERE !!??

THIS ENTIRE THREAD WAS SUPPOSE TO BE MY EVALUATION AND TEST OF THE EVERLAST'S NEW SOON TO BE RELEASED CUT 60 PLASMA CUTTER.

JRW159 POSTS FROM HIS FIRST POST TO THE LAST HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS EVALUTION & TEST. HIS POSTS WERE ABOUT SOMETHING TOTALLY UNRELATED TO THIS TEST AND EVALUATION. HIS POSTS (REPLIES) DID NOT ASK TEST QUESTIONS OR REQUEST A SPECIFIC TEST BE PERFORMED.
IN MY REPLIES TO JR159 I ASKED WHY HE WAS POSTING HIS COMMENTS HERE AND NOT IN A NEW THREAD OF HIS OWN EITHER HERE IN EVERLAST'S FORUM OR IN THE OTHER MANUFACTURERS FORUM. SINCE I FELT HIS REPLIES TO MY THREAD AND POSTS WERE UNRELATED TO THIS EVALUATION & TEST I ASKED ALEX/OLEG TO EITHER MOVED HIS COMMENTS TO A NEW THREAD OR DELETE THEM.

AS TO THE COMMENT OF PORTION OF MY POSTS BEING DELETED YES THAT IS TRUE. ALEX REMOVED A COUPLE OF WORDS WHICH I HAD MADE. THE WORDS ARE PROPRIETY TO SPECIFIC COMPONENTS USED IN THE CUT 60 PLASMA CUTTER WHICH HAS NOT BEEN FULLY TESTED AND RELEASED FROM PRODUCTION FOR SALES TO THE PUBLIC YET.

AS FOR THE PORTION OF ONE OF MY POSTS I HAD REFERRENCED JR159 POSTS AS A QUOTE WITHIN MY POST AND REPLIED SPECIFICALLY TO COMMENTS HE MADE. THAT ORIGINAL POST IS BELOW IN IT ENTIRE TEXT.
02-18-2009, 08:49 PM
specter
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Re: CUT 60 received for Test

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Hi Again jrw159 I do not work for Everlast. I am not sure why you posted upon this thread. They call that HiJacking.

QUOTE:
I was at first looking for information on your product, and during this process it became quite clear that I was not getting an honest review.

Now I ask why you would invite me to start my own thread and then delete it?? Or seeing as how you have also deleted your post containing this invite, will you at this time deny making that comment?

And please for the rest of us who may be looking for information about your product, will you also deny the comment you made about how one should expect issues like have been experianced with your product/customer service when buying a lower priced product???

Please have enough respect for me, and all who are interested, to answer these questions rather than sweeping them under the rug.

Notice I have used NO vulgar language, and am not being hostile. I am simply calling a spade a spade.

I have not once done anything but address issues that I have come across while looking into your product.

jrw159


This thread is about an person performing an Honest Evaluation and Test of an Everlast. If you wanted to ask a question about my evaluation & test fine!! But so far what you have posted in this thread as nothing to do with my evaluation or test.

I suggested that if your dissatified with Everlast post your own thread. You said they deleted it. I suggested posting your thread in the Other's Manufacturers forum.

Again I do not work for Everlast! Nor do I own any of their products , and your spades, respect, lanquage, hostility, or what have nothing to do with this thread I posted.

I am asking that your reply's in this forum please stop as they have nothing to do with the thread I posted. I ask Everlast to either delete or move the posts to the Other's Manufacturers forum.

I am tom and I endorse this action

THE REASON HIS QUOTE WAS DELETED FROM MY POST WAS THAT IT WAS REPETITIOUS
TO INCLUDE HIS POST IN MY POST. PLUS WHEN ALEX DELETED JR159'S POSTS HIS QUOTE WHICH WAS PART OF MY POST WAS TAKEN OUT AS PART OF THE SYSTEMS DELETE PROCESS.

I HAVE REPLY POST TO JR159 AS SHOWN ABOVE.

AS I HAVE ALREADY EXPLAINED TO JR159 THIS IS MY EVALUATION & TEST OF A PRODUCT IF HE WISHES TO REPLY WITH A SPECIFIC TEST THAT I SHOULD PERFORM OR A PART OF MY EVALUATION HE WOULD LIKE TO SEE EXPANDED FINE i WILL ADDRESS THAT.

BUT!!!!!!!!!! AS i EXPLAINED IN MY THREAD AND POSTS HE SHOULD ADDRESS HIS CONCERNS IN HIS OWN THREAD EITHER HERE IN HIS OWN THREAD OR WITHIN THE OTHER MANUFACTURERS FORUM AS HIS OWN THREAD.


"Please" start your own thread JR159

[jrw159]

My comments in the start of this thread, I beleive post #4 of this thread, concerned only your evaluation. I asked about the plug for the power chord, and you gave a good example of why this could occur, as did Everlast by stateing to me that when you purchase a low cost unit, you can expect issues. I guess the plug is one of those issues. Then they edited out my concerns about the manual in post #4 (notice edited last by Everlast)

They should not have edited your posts in any way. If they felt the needed revised, they should have contacted you and let you post a clarification.

Holy crap........ That sounds way to proffessional for them to comprehend.

[specter]

Like I had said the CE version of plasma cutters do not have a plug. It is a festure many like as they can then wire whatever plug thhey choose say to adapt to a dryer or range outlet. If you want a plasma cutter with a plug it comes on the CSA version. Plus as alex said when released for sales to the pulic it will include a plug.

As for the manual the only thing deleted was the word related to the company's propriety component and I had agreed to that deletion when he did it.

As to the deletion in my reply that included your quote I had kept a copy of that post and it is shown in post #20 above.

Tom

[jrw159]

Thank you for your clarification Sir. Very professional.

jrw159

[EVERLAST]

jrw159

do not post anymore in this tread ,start a new one if you like on my forum

[jrw159]

Yes Sir. Thank you.

jrw159

[specter]

Your welcome JR. I just wanted to clear up any confusion on all our parts.

Good luck on your new post

Tom

[jrw159]

Specter,
Thank you. I am working on my new post now and I think that if we all approach it in a professional manner we can find common ground.

I look forward to any additions that you may have to the evaluation of the Everlast product. An unbiased opinion of a product does wonders for all involved. The consumer gets a true report from a knowledgable person concerning the pro's and con's of the product, and the manufacturer gets the same. This is a plus for everyone. The consumer is well informed, and the manufacturer has an unbiased report to work off of to better their product and customer service as well as confirm the things that are working well, thus advanceing their realiability.

jrw159

Everlast,
I know you requested that I not post in this thread anymore, but I feel this post is warranted. Thank you for your understanding.

jrw159

EDIT: Sorry for the double post I tried to edit it and somehow duplicated it.

I respectfully request that my post, #27 be deleted as it is a duplicat of this thread. Sorry for the inconvienance.

[specter]

Your welcome. I am glad to see all has calmed down.

Well folks yesterday I had that I had that foot surgery to replace the joints in the big toe of my right foot and shaved the bone growth. Funtime woke up this morning with blood all over my bed. Apparently the guase bandage had got caught on the stiches and irritated the wound to the pint the stiches worked they way loose. Back up to Tampa hospital to have the foot re stiched. Soory about the spellling but I am on some really great narcotics to kill the pain. Oh yeah killed the Pain:drinkup:

I will try to get back to the test this coming week.

Tom

[lugweld]

Yeah,
It wouldn't be fair to Everlast to be in a drug induced stupor while you "operate" your machine. No telling what you may try to cut or gouge...Maybe the cat?

[specter]

Now there's an idea of what to do with the neighbor's cat that keeps climbing all over my jeep... Yum Yum fried cat haven't eaten that since Viet Nam.

[dakook]

[QUOTE=specter;254051
As for pictures!since this is a unit still in production and not fully tested and evaluated or released for public sales I was asked not to take pictures and release them to the public until the actual production is done and the units fully evaluated and tested and then released from the factory to the sales folks for sale to the public.[/QUOTE]

So the unit you are actually testing is a pre-production model, which has not been fully tested or evaluated? Then the unit you have may or may not be the final production unit which will be sold to the public. Could be kinda comparing apples to oranges then, no? While I do not question your sincerity in this, a better evaluation method would be to buy a production unit anonomously, another words everlast not knowing you are going to test the unit, and then run it through the paces. Just saying.

[EVERLAST_SUPPORT]

Dakook,

The unit Spector has and I have are the final production plasma cutter design. So he can review the unit.

That statement was made to cover the fact that the manual with it is not the final manual. The manual will be complete and online when the first shipment arrives.

We are open to changes that Spector recommends as well. So other possible changes might be to the silk screen on the front panel and moving control knobs around on the front, all cosmetic.

But the actual hardware is final.

[specter]

Ok today I felt a bit better so I took at the "EverLast CUT 60 Air Plasma Cutting Machine". Since EverLast did not want pictures taken of the unit I can only describe it.

Overall Case Appearance: Corvette yellow, two piece outter case separating at the mid point along the unit. Unit has air louvers front and sides, Rear of unit Very Large air circulating cooling fan (one of best I have seen).

View of Front Panel: Well laid out design with a digital amp led, three indicator lights, a knob for adjusting amps, an air pressure gauge and air adjusting knob. The front has cable connectiions for workpiece, control, pilot arc and torch. It also has an external fuse holder for the digital amp led.

Back Of Unit: Power Cord, Air inlet connector, ground lug connector, and the Name, Model, serial number plate and a heavy duty circuitbreaker/on/off switch.

Inside of Unit: Components are designed and laid out well. Circuitry is industrial grade in appearance and quality. No Loose wires found or burnt indications on the panels. Unit is well vented and cooled.
I did notice their was an absence of a internal water separator/air filter and an external one was not included in the shipping box.

Cable, Torch and Leads are heavy duty. Torch is well designed and came with a detachable rolling standoff. Consumables appear well made but composition of consumables is unknown.

I have already covered the Owner's Manual and been ensured a new one is in the works and will be available before the unit is released for public sales.

Overall Initial Impression: Unit appears to be well designed. Components appear to be industrial grade, solder joints are solid, no loose wiring, inside of unit is not cluttered and is well vented and cooled. No screws were over tighten. I would have liked to have seen a standard quick connect for the air input instead of the old rubber hose slipon clamp down connection..

The units power cord does not have a power plug this was covered in a previous post. The unit is wired for 220vac@50A, 230vac@48A, and 240vac@46Amp using an autosense detector.

The unit power cord came in a european color standard. Black=Ground, Blue & Red being your hot leads. This was confirmed by a test with a GreenLee Meter. Since a Power Plug was not provided I purchased a standard CSA plug at Lowe's. My garage currenlty has a 50AmpCSA wall outlet available (used for my Hypertherm PowerMax 45)

Performance test to follow in next few days.

[lugweld]

Corvette Yellow=ESAB yellow.

The problem I see is "trying" to get a color match on a competitors brand. Go ask the Chinese tractor importers what happened when they tried to do the same thing. Whoops! You can't...They were put out of business by the "major" manufacturers.

If Everlast wishes to succeed, in the marketing of this product, they need to establish their own color patterns for their company to make it easily recognizable, whether it is good or bad.

[specter]

Hi Ya Lug I am not sure if the colors are trademarked to any specific brand. But then I could be wrong because John Deere Green is as it relates to specific brand and models of equipment. Hopefully someone will have an answer to that.

Personally as long as the product works color really doesn't matter.

[specter]

Well I am glad to see that Everlast is redoing the Owner's manuals. I expect that when they have new manual ready for review I will be seeing draft prior to it going for printing and being shippped out.

As for the Plasma Cutter I will be wiring up the plug on the power cord today. I will also most llikey be changing over the current air inlet from the current brass hose slip on and clamp down setup to a standard 1/4" NPT quick-connect coupler. And since the unit does not come with a standard built in or external water/particle, oil filter I will be connecting it to my shops water, particle, oil, and air dryer filter system.

[specter]

Well got the electrical plug on the power cord and then went to hookup my 1/4" NPT Quick Coupler. I thought maybe the other one just unscrewed off!! Wrong see pictures

[specter]

rest of pictures show what I have on hand. I didn' have an NPT couple that would work with that barb fitting or hose.

Recommend Manufacturer include a hose and clamps to work with the standard air/water separator/filter. Including a air/water separator/filter is also adviseable.

Well folks now I have to go get a section of air hose, clamps and a air/water separator before this evaluation & test can continue. Because of the uniqueness of that barbed air connector I will not be able to use a standard NPT air coupler.

As for someone's comment about my pay for doing this I do not get compensated for this.

[lugweld]

looks like it might be British pipe threads.

[specter]

Not sure what it is mark. Either way I have to get my brother to come over and take me somewhere where I can get the hose and coupler I need to hook this up. As shown in the pictures I did not have either the hose or coupler in my collection.

[specter]

I do remember that the three Longevity units did come with that same barbed air fitting on the back of their units! But in Longeviity's case they did provide the hose, clamps and the filter.

[UA440Fitter]

When I received my LG80, the box contained a bag with two hose clamps, a section of hose, 2 screws, a barbed X MIP adapter, and a pressure regulator/filter dryer. The reg/dryer mounted to the back of the unit, the barbed X MIP adapter screwed into the dryer, and the hose connected the dryer to the unit. All I had to do was then screw one of my 1/4" MIP x quick disconnect fittings into the inlet of the dryer. It sounds like someone forgot to put the bag in the box!

[specter]

Not sure if they forgot it or what but my evaluation and tests covers all I received or in this case didn't receive. Today my brother did some shopping for me since I am still off my feet and he got me the 1/4" hose barb I needed but he forgot the section of hose.

Plus its hard to do much of anything while your spaced out on this hydrocodone narcotic for my foot.:drinkup:

[EVERLAST_SUPPORT]

Specter,

The units I am testing (including a Cut70D) did come with the hose clamps and hose, I had to provided the 1/4" NPT.

I talked with Alex and we are adding a water separator and 1/4" NPT to the new units on the back. Less hose clamp issues, less places for future problems and less setup time. Do to packaging issues, it might have to be installed once the unit is unpacked.

[specter]

That fine Mike! The water separator is included separating in the Longevity unit as well. It also connects using hose barbs and hose to the water separator (well I am going from memory on the three previous Longevity units). I am not sure what Longevity does for current units since I have not received their test unit yet.

[farmersamm]

Seems to me it might have been easier to plumb it out from the barbed fitting instead of changing everything around. I'd of probably made up an adapter for the quick disconnect that would have a flex section that just slipped on the barb, and clamped it.

Just my 1/2cents worth(bad economy, devalued dollar):jester:

[specter]

Actually today I got hose on the unit's barb connector and ran it up to the fitting on a oil/water separator. I hope to get this this unit up and running in the next few days. I am hopeful by then my friend that owns that salvage yard will bring some metal over for me to test it on. I still have some of the metal I used before the 1" aluminum and 1 1/4" steel, some bed frame material, pipe, a frame cross member off of a 86 chevy PU, and both some aluminum and stainless sheet metal. But I really want some expanded metal to be able to test the pilot arc. If he doesn't have one of his guys bring it over I will try to get my brother to go get it in his lil BMW.

[lugweld]

I've got some 1 1/2 T-1 steel. and plenty of used 1/2 plate.

[EVERLAST_SUPPORT]

I've got some 1 1/2 T-1 steel. and plenty of used 1/2 plate.

If you are paying shipping, I will attempt to cut the 1.5" T1 with mine? Ground shipping is fine. The 1"x6"x12" I test with is not light.

But my posts would be challenged and why I do not post what I do with our products.

Like to try 1.5" T1, but 1" is not a problem at all.

[specter]

Once I get off these drugs and back on my feet I plan to go over to my friends salvage/recycling yard and pick out some goodies to test on. I want to get a wide selction of stuff especially some expanded metal for testing the pilot arc. Wil be nice to be back on my feet and driving my Jeep Wrangler!! Plus I have a workload backing up.

PS Mike they can challenge me anytime they want

[specter]

Ok here's some picture's of the unit before it Everlast's send their Prepaid shipping label

1st frontal picture of the unit you can see just how powerful the cooling fan is.

2nd the cooling fan intake is huge on this unit

3rd Notice the heavy duty soldering connections.

4th top shot photo

5th side shot photo

[specter]

1st Pierce Test Aluminum 1/16, 1/8, 1/4, 5/16, 3/4"

2nd Cut Aluminum 1/16, 1/8, 1/4, 5/16, 3/4"

3rd Pierce and Cut Steel 1/4, 3/8, 1/2, 3/4"

4th Cut Steel 1"

5th Cut Steel 1 1/4"

Sorry for the delay in pictures. But I just got that Sony Mini dvd camera back from the repair shop.

[EVERLAST_SUPPORT]

Once I get off these drugs and back on my feet I plan to go over to my friends salvage/recycling yard and pick out some goodies to test on. I want to get a wide selction of stuff especially some expanded metal for testing the pilot arc. Wil be nice to be back on my feet and driving my Jeep Wrangler!! Plus I have a workload backing up.

PS Mike they can challenge me anytime they want

Tom,

Sounds like the toe is getting better. My broken toe is 95% (still a little pink), but mine was only broken, yours will take more time I am sure. Just go slow on it and do not stub it on anything.

Glad to see your pictures, thanks for posting them.

I still have the Cut70 but still debating on keeping it, as the Cut50 was so lightweight and all I "really" need. But I do like to know I can cut 1.5" if I needed too.

I know you will handle the people that challenge as long as they keep it professional. Thanks again.

[specter]

Here are the documented Test Results Sorry but for some reson they will not go on the screen in the typed format so you'll have to click on attachment

[specter]

Ok Everlast sent a rolling standoff with their unit. I decided to finally give it a test.

1st Picture shows standoff on 1/4" steel

2nd Picture shows the cut 1/4" steel

3rd Picture shows standoff on 1/2" steel

4th Picture shows the cut 1/2" steel

The rolling standoff maintained a 1/4". I tried to adjust to a standard 1/16-1/8" standoff but found I could not adjust the way it fits. It maintains a fixed standoff of 1/4". I think the cuts would be better if the rolling standoff was fixed at 1/16" or 1/8". I felt the 1/4" was a bit to far from the material to give a real fine quality cut.

[metalman52]

From the pictures it looks like the cut 60 has been improved a lot. My first cut 60 i bought in July of 08 was bad out of the box but i will be quick to say everlast did make it up even though i had to pay the shipping to send it back , i still think that was wrong the replacement unit works good and has now for 10 months .I wish i had known there was going to be a cut80 or just that the cut60 would be upgraded i would have waited , but that is water under the bridge i just hope what i have keeps working as it does or if i have a problem with it again Alex will still honor the warranty on the unit i have. Anyway the new unit looks good :):)

[EVERLAST]

Hello metalman52

PM me your address i will send you 50$ value consumables kit for the money you spend on shipping back to us for exchange !

Thank you for your purchase

[tmarks11]

Specter,So the unit comes without a plug for the power chord?? Is that not like buying a truck with no steering wheel. :laugh: jrw159
Very common.

My Miller Dynasty DX came with no plug. My Thermal Dynamics Cutmaster 38 had no plug. In fact, every 220V machine in my shop came without a plug (such as my Quincy air compressor).

The reason is that there are at least four standard 220V plugs, so chances are the plugs on your wall won't match the plug on the machine.

Quincy and Miller are quality names. If they can ship without plugs, I don't think you can fault the little guys for doing the same.

back OT, those cuts look awesome. You can't really complain about that. I wish my cutmaster gave me cuts that clean (although I suspect the fault is my technique and not the machine).

[EVERLAST_SUPPORT]

metalman52,

The new Power Plasma units are nice. Your unit still has the Everlast 5 year warranty. So nothing to worry about there.

Maybe call in and see about an upgrade down the road after we get caught up. The Cut60D will do about all most people need. My Power Plasma 70 is awesome no doubt, but I still miss the smaller Cut50 I used. Sometimes not needing a cart to move it is a good thing.

Either way, we will be here and make it right as we always do.


tmarks11,

Thanks for the comment. I also know lots of people that have cut the plug off and change it on other brands.

Specter,

Thanks for your thread, time and work.