specter
03-10-2009, 04:41 PM
Well folks the Longevity ForceCut LP-60D unit arrived today
It was good to see that they used UPS instead of DHL cause as we all know DHL has a history of Gorilla's handling the packages (or at least it seems that way). Box in good shape! opened box all appeared undamaged.
1 st I noticed the overall size & weight of the Longevity unit is small than the Everlast.
2 nd I noticed that the Longevity unit is a CE unit and does not contain a power plug on the end of the power cord. Comparison: The Everlast unit was also a CE unit that did not possess a power plug on the end of it power cord as well. This is something the manufacturers/sellers should offer.
3 rd I noticed the Longevity unit does have a water separator/filter. The Everlast did not.
4 th I noticed the difference in torch. Very considerable difference in torch size and appearance. The Everlast torch appears much larger and is heavier. Both torches use electrical nylon wire ties to fasten the torch triggers onto the torches. I would be nice if both Everlast and Longevity could incorporate the trigger into the torch handle! Reason is that when you depress the trigger on a wire wrapped torch the trigger tends to slip and slid as you press the trigger to initiate your arc. When the trigger is incorporated into the torch you do not have this problem. Hopefully this will someday fixed or they can glue the trigger to the torch to prevent slippage. The consumables from Everlast also appear much more industrial in size and strengths.
5 th I noticed the lack of a owners manual along with the Longevity unit. Everlast did have a manual with their unit but like I said in my Everlast post the manual needs a substantial revision! But at least the manual did provide some info on the front panel features.
Recommend Longevity include a manual with their units. I would imagine that like Everlast Longevity is also working on their manual. Problem is that for buyers of either unit the lack of a good manual only makes the plasma experience worse. especially if they are beginners with no welding, technical or electrical experience to help them.
Strong Recommend for both Everlast and Longevity would be to look at what other manufacturers include with their units. example Hypertherm includes one of the best Owners Manuals I have ever seen, also includes a Quick Setup Card, a 4 page guide of just the torch parts, assembly and consumables, a Very Well made DVD again showing setup and operation. many other manufacturers are following Hypertherms Ownership package of materials
6 th I noticed both manufacturers are using different circuitry and technology. Everlast is using IGBT technology and Longevity is using Mosfet technology.
7 th The actual evaluation and testing of the two units will begin when I get back on my feet. Yep folks for those of you that have seen Big Foot posted tommorrow 11 March is the big day the sitches finally come out after being in there since 20th Feb. Once back on my feet I will be able to get all the materials I need for the actual performance testing.
Now when I received the Everlast unit I post its review in the Everlast forum. But since this is my first real comparison of the two units side by side I am posting this also in the Other Manufacturers Forum.
Please don't burn me for thismove to the Other Manufacturers Forum! But since this test is going to be an honest and fair evaluation and test of the two manufacturers unit I felt it best to post this in the Other Manufacturers Forum. There the two manufacturers can view the evaluation and test and provide their appropriate responses, And no one can say this has been edited by either manufacturer.
Thanks,
Tom
It was good to see that they used UPS instead of DHL cause as we all know DHL has a history of Gorilla's handling the packages (or at least it seems that way). Box in good shape! opened box all appeared undamaged.
1 st I noticed the overall size & weight of the Longevity unit is small than the Everlast.
2 nd I noticed that the Longevity unit is a CE unit and does not contain a power plug on the end of the power cord. Comparison: The Everlast unit was also a CE unit that did not possess a power plug on the end of it power cord as well. This is something the manufacturers/sellers should offer.
3 rd I noticed the Longevity unit does have a water separator/filter. The Everlast did not.
4 th I noticed the difference in torch. Very considerable difference in torch size and appearance. The Everlast torch appears much larger and is heavier. Both torches use electrical nylon wire ties to fasten the torch triggers onto the torches. I would be nice if both Everlast and Longevity could incorporate the trigger into the torch handle! Reason is that when you depress the trigger on a wire wrapped torch the trigger tends to slip and slid as you press the trigger to initiate your arc. When the trigger is incorporated into the torch you do not have this problem. Hopefully this will someday fixed or they can glue the trigger to the torch to prevent slippage. The consumables from Everlast also appear much more industrial in size and strengths.
5 th I noticed the lack of a owners manual along with the Longevity unit. Everlast did have a manual with their unit but like I said in my Everlast post the manual needs a substantial revision! But at least the manual did provide some info on the front panel features.
Recommend Longevity include a manual with their units. I would imagine that like Everlast Longevity is also working on their manual. Problem is that for buyers of either unit the lack of a good manual only makes the plasma experience worse. especially if they are beginners with no welding, technical or electrical experience to help them.
Strong Recommend for both Everlast and Longevity would be to look at what other manufacturers include with their units. example Hypertherm includes one of the best Owners Manuals I have ever seen, also includes a Quick Setup Card, a 4 page guide of just the torch parts, assembly and consumables, a Very Well made DVD again showing setup and operation. many other manufacturers are following Hypertherms Ownership package of materials
6 th I noticed both manufacturers are using different circuitry and technology. Everlast is using IGBT technology and Longevity is using Mosfet technology.
7 th The actual evaluation and testing of the two units will begin when I get back on my feet. Yep folks for those of you that have seen Big Foot posted tommorrow 11 March is the big day the sitches finally come out after being in there since 20th Feb. Once back on my feet I will be able to get all the materials I need for the actual performance testing.
Now when I received the Everlast unit I post its review in the Everlast forum. But since this is my first real comparison of the two units side by side I am posting this also in the Other Manufacturers Forum.
Please don't burn me for thismove to the Other Manufacturers Forum! But since this test is going to be an honest and fair evaluation and test of the two manufacturers unit I felt it best to post this in the Other Manufacturers Forum. There the two manufacturers can view the evaluation and test and provide their appropriate responses, And no one can say this has been edited by either manufacturer.
Thanks,
Tom