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22lover
07-16-2009, 09:23 AM
Hello!

I'm a complete welding newbie. I've always wanted to have a small welder for the garage to do little jobs around the house here and there, and perhaps some small projects...projects like building a go-kart frame (I'm 37 years old and still want one), building a bullet backstop, etc.

I've been wavering between the Handler 125 (non-EZ) and the 140. I know the 140 is the obvious choice if money isn't a factor...but I woke up this morning only to find that one of the major online retailers has the 125 on sale for $309 shipped....about $170 less than the best price I've seen on a 140.

I should add that I likely won't be welding inside...so the gas option is not a necessity, at least not in the near to medium future. From what I can tell I could always buy the regulator for the 125 for about $90.

Anyway, I know the 140 would be great and it's certainly my preference, but I'm not sure there's anything I want to do in the forseeable future that the 125 wouldn't handle. Opinions, given the sale price of the 125?

Thanks in advance, and I look forward to getting advice here. I've been lurking for a while.

Bill

sidthss
07-16-2009, 11:45 AM
Like I am sure youve seen here before, you will never be sorry if you go with more power, even if you dont see needing it in the future.

22lover
07-16-2009, 01:06 PM
yes I know....but what is the practical difference between 125 and 140 amps?

Thanks,

Bill

DSW
07-16-2009, 01:42 PM
You will most likely quickly find both machines to be underpowered. The HH125 is just more underpowered.

You always need to take the max sizes listed by the manufacturers with a grain of salt. They show what you might get under the best possible circumstances in perfect conditions. The HH125 is listed to 3/16" at best, the HH140 to 1/4" at best and I would say you should probably back both those estimates down by 1/16"-1/8" under normal practical conditions.

I can understand the need to save money, but a small machine like that is like buying a new pair of shoes instead of a car to get yourself to work. Yes it will do that, but it won't be long before you are frustrated because of the restrictions imposed on you by your decision.

Brianstick
07-16-2009, 02:18 PM
I just bought a HH 140 from toolking for $399.99 (refurb). It came with a warranty and everything. I love it! I just wish I would have bought it sooner.

22lover
07-18-2009, 03:07 PM
I just bought a HH 140 from toolking for $399.99 (refurb). It came with a warranty and everything. I love it! I just wish I would have bought it sooner.



Sounds like a great testamony to the HH140. If you were to find the HH125 for $309 shipped (brand new) with the option of the gas kit for $90 (shipped), would you go new HH125 with full warranty or used HH140 with 1 yr? What is the practical difference when using gas on a 20 amp circuit?

Thanks in advance,

Bill