wanted Iron worker

[Jerry]

Looking for a nice one with a coping station along with angle shear,single punch, and flat shear.

[didlysquatts]

ironworkers are for professional fabrication shops.if you really have one you might consider it!.Go with an Edwards Jaws IV.You shear angle,flats,tube,and punch

[Jerry]

I am in the welding and fabrication business. I know of many makes and yes I am familiar with the Edwards brand. The price is low on those yet they are not by far one of the top line machines. There are Pirahna, uni- hydro, spartan, edwards, peddington, geka, etc......... Thank you though.

[Double D]

Jerry,
I know A guy that sells equipment, he is in VA. great Guy that deals well If you would like I'll get you his number. He goes all around the usa buying this stuff up, We bought a bidgeport from him in excellent shape for just about a 1/3 of its real value.
Let me know.
Double D

[Jerry]

I am going to demo the Edwards brand 50 ton. The price is quite reasonable on this machine, does anyone have any positive or negative feedback on these machines.

[viperweld]

Jerry, if you have an Airgas supplier, you might contact them, and let them know you are looking for a used ironworker, my local Airgas salesman found me a used 40 ton Scotchman in excellent condition, this was from one of their customers that was going out of the dock building business, good luck!

[Jerry]

Ah yes Viperweld, word of mouth works every time. Scotchman is a good brand I've used them a lot.

[SDean]

Jerry, I have been using the Edwards 55-ton Ironworker for about 6 years now and I love it. I really like the remote foot switch as you can move it around to get more comfortable when doing a lot of punching. My friend has the 5014-TM Scotchman, w/foot switch built mounted on the frame, and it can be very hard to line up the center punch mark and step on the foot switch. Also the 5014-TM does not have a lot of room under the "stripper" which makes it hard to "hit the mark" too. The punch "stripper" on the Edwards has good heigth adjustment.
I have the optional brake on my Edwards (I am going to build me a stand alone coper/notcher) which allows you to make slightly tighter bends because you can pull the piece off the end of the dies when you are done.
I use mine primarily for mild steel. If you are punching a lot of Stainless then you should consider going to one of the bigger units.

Let us know how your demo goes.

[Jerry]

Well when I say demo, I mean I know someone who has one that will let me come and try it, before I go and just buy it.

Thanks for the feedback SDean I really appreciate it. Looks like the 50 ton can be purchased for around 5000.00

[kllrjo]

i have the edwards 25 ton "jaws jr" and while its a good machine, work line up can be a bit of a bitch, [see ing the actual cut lines, when shearing]... work line-up on the 50ton machine is somewhat easier, definatly worth the extra bucks[along with the capacity of the cut/hole]

http://community.webshots.com/album/105266856gMrqaP

[Jerry]

I have tried my buddys Edwards 50 ton and found it to be a good machine that will fit my needs. I'll have to wait a month though before buying. I just bought a large variable speed Clausing drill with cast iron table along with a new Wilton 10 x 16 horizontal saw.

[Jerry]

Well I sent the check out yesterday for the 50 ton Edwards with coper, should receive it in a couple weeks. Iv'e heard good things about these and for the money it seems to me as a good fit for the shop. Now I need to get a new brake and shear next.

[Jerry]

Well I have had the ironworker for awhile now and I must say I love it. I have made jigs for every station to speed time up along with adding wheels on machine.

As of now I am very satisfied.

(PS) My box and pan brake will be at shop in a couple weeks. National 6' 12g heavy.

[morpheus]

sounds like it's working out good for you Jerry. how about some pics of the iron worker and the jigs you made for it ?

[Jerry]

Hers is a picture of the punch jig I made with a scale on both sides which I glued down into a cut out I made in the stainless plate.

[Jerry]

Here is a picture of the angle iron jig I made.

[Jerry]

Here is the coper 45 degree fixture made.

[Jerry]

Here is a picture of the unit, you can't see them but I mounted unit on 4" steel casters.:cool2:

You are able to see this sides catch pan under punching station to catch drops, I also have one under the coper station. Both of the catch pans are removable with out unbolting.

[morpheus]

Looks good ! thanks for the pics. I don't see how the angle jig works or is it just a support ?

how big is your shop ? it looks BIG !

[MAC702]

Jack, slide a piece of flat along the angled edge of the jig and it will hit the blade at a 45-degree angle.

[Jerry]

Exactly Mac, along edge & hit blade will give you the 45. Coper can cut 5/16" and the plate is easy to move, I may place the turn knobs on there to so as to need no wrenches.

I just moved from old shop, new shop has 3,000 sq. ft. shop and probably 500 sq. ft. office with 2 restrooms.

[SDean]

Hey Jerry, it looks like your ready to start chopping up Steel:D

I just ran another 500lbs of flat bar through mine today.

[Jerry]

Hey SDean, Thats a lot of flat bar. What type of machine do you have? Sounds like you use it alot, has the machine held up well for you and how long have you had it?
I've only had the ironworker for a couple weeks or so but man am I finding the short cuts with it. It almost seems like I use that thing every other day.

[vipermanz]

Man, Your shop is WAY too clean!!!!!

[Jerry]

I try to keep it clean all the time. I think when a customer or potential customer comes in that they like seeing an organized work area. Basicly everything has a place and it should go there or get rid of it.

I do have a balcony above the offices where I can store my fixtures and other stuff, which helps in keeping shop organized.

[vipermanz]

you have a point, i'm just a hyper-hobby-welder so me and flajim can have messy shops!!!

[SDean]

Hey SDean, Thats a lot of flat bar. What type of machine do you have?

I nominate Jerry for having the shortest memory here:D

I talked to you at the begining of this thread about my Edwards 55-ton Ironworker.

It's okay Jerry, I get a little rummy toward the end of the day too.:p

Did you catch the picts I posted in Pat's thread here?....
http://www.weldingweb.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1057

[Jerry]

Oh Yeh my wife would agree with that. Now what machine do you have ? HA HA

[SlagKing]

I like pictures of things that someone has made. Tools or projects. Thanks for them.

[rusted]

That's a nice machine. I'd like to just try it someday. I've been in die-cast, stamping and injection-molding factory jobs, but never cutting or fabricating.

Jerry I don't know you so I just have to ask out front, what business are you in and how long have you been doing it?

[Jerry]

Hi Rusted, I've been around metal for 27 years now, started at 18 at Tech college when I learned to weld. Welded at many company's in my earlier years, then got a job at a large machinery builder in its sheet metal dept. and learned duct layout guard design and etc.. Worked a few years as a sheet metal worker in maintenance at Briggs & Stratton. Went back to the old machinery builder when it looked like Briggs was going south with jobs so I left before that happened.

Anyhow in 2000 I along with two other guys started a business Tool & Die welding after are full time jobs at night and onweekends,well after two years I bought them out and took it full time.

I am doing welding for production on stamped parts, custom fabrication, machine guarding, tool & die welding, repair welding on cast-iron, bronze , brass, cast aluminum etc... I've been adding machines as I can afford them. Business is very good right now and my customer base is growing, if you are thinking of starting out, you must work hard to abtain you customers and be honest with everything you do.

good luck

[vipermanz]

Thread moved from market forum.

[mniadna]

I just purchased an Edwards 65 Ton machine and am awaiting its arrival. After doing some internet research, I found that it seems like the Edwards machine should be able to shear thicker metal than it is rated. Most other machines at the same tonnage have higher capacities. I was in a hurry to buy a machine, because I need it NOW. I just hope I don't regret it... Anyone have any contact with a 65 ton like the one I am getting?

Thanks,