power max 600 issue and cutting help

[ttm]

Hello, I'm Tom
I have a couple questions if you don’t mind,
I currently have a Powermax 600

I am new to plasma and cutting and welding, so please excuse the lack of knowledge


I have what I think is a issue with the torch, now when I got this machine I had to have it repaired, they put in a new sol of some type at an authorized repair facility in Atlanta
My issue is, when I stop cutting (pull away and release the trigger, I have to push the trigger again and release for it to stop pushing air out of it., any ideas what to look for there?


I also seem to have a difficult time cutting thin metal, it seems this machine is overkill for the job perhaps, I have it set down to 20 amps, (lowest setting) but it seems to burn the metal pretty badly, I have tried moving faster slower, more amps a tad more air and less air, so I guess my question is,

Is there a different torch or tips? for doing light sheet metal, the fenders we are practicing with are about .032

I’m hoping to use this machine to add a CNC table to in the future in fact there seems to be a very nice entry level one out there for about 2k (yes small machine at2*2)

Anyhow, thanks for your help
Tom

[jimcolt]

Tom,

The Powermax600, like all of the other Powermax units, has a "postflow" that keeps the air flowing after you finish a cut. This is necessary to properly cool the consumables in the torch, making them last longer. By retriggering the torch you are fooling the circuitry into thinking you want to start a new cut, by doing this you will shorten consumable life! The air flow will stop after about 10 seconds if you just let it flow.

You can go on the Hypertherm website www.hypertherm.com and download a manual for your Powermax600 (click on download library and follow the directions), or you can click on the "torch and consumables" tab under products and you can see all of the consumables available for your torch. The original torch for the Powermax600 is the PAC125, there is also a newer technology torch (better cut quality, longer consumable life) called the RT60 torch. There is a label on your torch that will identify which torch it is.

For cutting very thin gauge materials...use FineCut shielded consumables and turn the power (Amperage) to the lowest setting. Drag on the plate with steady motion, and you will get a nice cut. Practice will make you better. Your system, with the right consumables (the manual will suggest which power level and consumables for the thickness you are cutting) will cut thin gauge material as well or better than a smaller plasma system.

Jim Colt

[ttm]

Tom,

The Powermax600, like all of the other Powermax units, has a "postflow" that keeps the air flowing after you finish a cut. This is necessary to properly cool the consumables in the torch, making them last longer. By retriggering the torch you are fooling the circuitry into thinking you want to start a new cut, by doing this you will shorten consumable life! The air flow will stop after about 10 seconds if you just let it flow.

You can go on the Hypertherm website www.hypertherm.com and download a manual for your Powermax600 (click on download library and follow the directions), or you can click on the "torch and consumables" tab under products and you can see all of the consumables available for your torch. The original torch for the Powermax600 is the PAC125, there is also a newer technology torch (better cut quality, longer consumable life) called the RT60 torch. There is a label on your torch that will identify which torch it is.

For cutting very thin gauge materials...use FineCut shielded consumables and turn the power (Amperage) to the lowest setting. Drag on the plate with steady motion, and you will get a nice cut. Practice will make you better. Your system, with the right consumables (the manual will suggest which power level and consumables for the thickness you are cutting) will cut thin gauge material as well or better than a smaller plasma system.

Jim Colt


Thank you jim
so fine cut consumables would be these part numbers,

8 120303 Deflector 1
11 220326 Deflector, CE 1
2 120600 Retaining Cap 1
12 220330 Nozzle 5
10 120574 Electrode 5
13 220332 Swirl Ring 1
FineCut parts

I see it looks as if a couple are the same in the other consumables, I will make a list, I assume I can order from that website, I will check it out
,
I also am about to go try the torch and see if it stops on it's own, I asked my Son if he thought we ever let it run about 10seconds after cutting....... I don't think we did

Thank you for your time, I'll let you know our finding on the torch!

Tom

[duaneb55]

Tom,
I no longer have my faithful Powermax 350 but when I did I got my consumables here http://www.hypermax.org/index.html. Genuine Hypertherm parts and the best pricing on-line. Jim may have other suggestions as well.
Duane

[ttm]

Thank you, when I went to my welding supply Friday, they did not list the fine cut tips at all and said there were no other tips for it besides the shielded, shielded gouging and unshielded, I'm glad I asked here, I would never had looked any further for more tips

[duaneb55]

Unfortunately that's too often the case at LWSs where they carry a vast array of products from numerous manufacturers. It's not unusual for them to not know much past the 'usual' or 'normal' that they see and deal with everyday. If you have ANY questions regarding your PM600, without a doubt Jim is the man to ask.

[ttm]

Tom,
consumables available for your torch. The original torch for the Powermax600 is the PAC125, there is also a newer technology torch (better cut quality, longer consumable life) called the RT60 torch. There is a label on your torch that will identify which torch it is.


the label is gone of mine, I just looked



For cutting very thin gauge materials...use FineCut shielded consumables and turn the power (Amperage) to the lowest setting. Drag on the plate with steady motion, and you will get a nice cut. Practice will make you better. Your system, with the right consumables (the manual will suggest which power level and consumables for the thickness you are cutting) will cut thin gauge material as well or better than a smaller plasma system.



ok I just looked over my parts

I have three nozzles with the same number of like this
HT
120826 under it but then there is a number under that on them as well
tree diffeent ones lik ethis
HT 120826 058
HT 120826 257
HT 120826 457
I saw no reference to that on the parts list on that for the pac 123t or 123m torch, and still I am not sure what torch I have

same goes with the Electrodes
HT 120573 44407
HT 120573 52507
HT 120573 62507

HT 120574 42108
HT 120574 43006
HT 120574 43008

this makes me wonder if I have them mixed up with the wrong nozzles?

[ttm]

Unfortunately that's too often the case at LWSs where they carry a vast array of products from numerous manufacturers. It's not unusual for them to not know much past the 'usual' or 'normal' that they see and deal with everyda

understandable, I'm not complaining, just saying...... this welding supply has been very helpful to us!

I jus tposted some of y nozzle numbers

Thanks again
Tom

[ttm]

Tom,

The Powermax600, like all of the other Powermax units, has a "postflow" that keeps the air flowing after you finish a cut. This is necessary to properly cool the consumables in the torch, making them last longer. By retriggering the torch you are fooling the circuitry into thinking you want to start a new cut, by doing this you will shorten consumable life! The air flow will stop after about 10 seconds if you just let it flow.

Jim Colt

just tought I should let you know, it does shut off, I never realized how long ten seconds was, I always thought it was fast (1/4 mile times back when)

Thank you, I am right now getting ready to build a cart for it, cuts angle real nice <g>

[jimcolt]

You have the original torch for the 600, which is called the PAC123T. You can easily look up the part numbersfor all available consumables by going to the www.hypertherm.com website, choose the products tab, then choose torch and consumables, then consumbles for discontinued systems, then choose the Powermax600. or you can just use this direct link: https://www.hypertherm.com/library/files/Product%20Information/TB_Powermax600H.pdf

The link takes you to a pdf file with illustrations and part numbers so you can easily print a copy. The first six digit number on your consumables is the part number...the others are either date or batch codes for manufacturing reference.

There are FineCut consumables available for your torch, and they are listed on the web site link above. A lot of distributor counter guys arenot familiar with every product, and they have to deal with a lot of different products....so we offer every possible bit of info on the Hypertherm site so you can go to the distributor armed with numbers!

Jim Colt

the label is gone of mine, I just looked



ok I just looked over my parts

I have three nozzles with the same number of like this
HT
120826 under it but then there is a number under that on them as well
tree diffeent ones lik ethis
HT 120826 058
HT 120826 257
HT 120826 457
I saw no reference to that on the parts list on that for the pac 123t or 123m torch, and still I am not sure what torch I have

same goes with the Electrodes
HT 120573 44407
HT 120573 52507
HT 120573 62507

HT 120574 42108
HT 120574 43006
HT 120574 43008

this makes me wonder if I have them mixed up with the wrong nozzles?

[ttm]

You have the original torch for the 600, which is called the PAC123T.
The link takes you to a pdf file with illustrations and part numbers so you can easily print a copy. The first six digit number on your consumables is the part number...the others are either date or batch codes for manufacturing reference.


Jim Colt

ok, now at least I know I do not have parts mixed up

I'm goinjg to check on the upgrade torch before I order any parts for this one,

thanks again for your help!

Tom

[bert the welder]

https://www.hypertherm.com/library/files/Product%20Information/TB_Powermax600H.pdf[/url]
Jim Colt

Link doesn't work for me? It just stops loading. Doesn't play nice with Firefox?
B:waving:

[ttm]

Link doesn't work for me? It just stops loading. Doesn't play nice with Firefox?
B:waving:

https://www.hypertherm.com/library/files/Product%20Information/TB_Powermax600H.pdf

try that, it worked fine for me in firefox

or here it is as a tinyurl

http://tinyurl.com/max600