titan wont jiggy up

[Felonyass Monk]

Hobart titan 8 will not go to high idle when an arc is struck:cry:.The solenoid is getting 13 volts dc when the auto idle switch is on and 0 when off,but does not want to let go when an arc is struck.Should i assume the high idle /timer module is history?
Felon:drinkup:

[Felonyass Monk]

Does anyone have a used hobart timer module part #493400 at a reasonable price?
Felon

[duaneb55]

Felon,

Yes, it could be the Idle Module but don't rule out the current transformer that senses weld and auxiliary power load. If I'm not mistaken you should get a couple volts output from T1 leads #2 and #4 at Idle Module terminals #2 and #4.

Will it come off high idle with an AC auxiliary power load?

If you don't have it, I can send you the Titan 8000 wiring diagram that I got from member MetalArchitect.

You can check with Larry Burross on a used/new module.

Applied Equipment, Inc.
2515 Cartwright St.
Dallas, TX 75212
214-630-9353 phone
214-630-9354 fax
888-630-9353 toll-free
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Email: weldersales@airmail.net

Member Mega Arc 5040DD is having idler problems with his unit as well and I believe they are the same module. He was informed it is no longer available but I haven't looked into with anyone to confirm that. If that's the case, a conversion to a current control system may be in order.

[duaneb55]

Felon,

I found this in a quick search.

http://www.3eservicesinc.com/Manufacturer/HOBART/493400

Didn't check it all the way out though.

Duane

[duaneb55]

Here's another one if needed.

http://www.nyco-systems.com/Products/part/index.php?Part=493400

[Felonyass Monk]

duanne said" you should get a couple volts output from T1 leads #2 and #4 at Idle Module terminals #2 and #4."

Ill check that out.Thanks for the websites also.

Felon:drinkup:

[Felonyass Monk]

duane said"Will it come off high idle with an AC auxiliary power load?"

Duane the problem is it will not go to high speed when the arc is struck ?when the engine starts the idle solinoid plunger pulls in to hold idle speed but will not release to let engine rev to high speed?At this point there is no voltage at the solinoid when i switch to auto idle there is 13 volts at the solinoid but it will not release when an arc is struck??

Felon:drinkup:

[duaneb55]

No idle up on striking an arc is understood. I asked if it will release low idle if there was a load on the auxiliary AC power to see if any of the idle control cicuitry - in particular the current transformer T1 - was working or if the entire system was inoperable.

In case you aren't sure, the T1 current transformer is shown below.
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Weld output = Red arrow / Aux. AC output = Green arrow / Transformer output to Idle Module = Yellow arrow.
51263

[Felonyass Monk]

Well duane
it was the idle module.i decided to do a quick fix rather than lay out 150 to get it rebuilt(seeing as this welder is my back up generator and wont be leaving the shed anywho)
thanks for the help.
Felon
yes i have been in hiding

[duaneb55]

I missed this post Felon. Thanks for the update. If I run across a module I'll let you know.

[metal burner]

Hi Duane

Felonyass Monk sold me his Hobart Titan 8...so I can fix up stuff around my farm.

If you down run across a module...it would be great if you could let me know.

[duaneb55]

Duly noted and congratulations on the "new" machine.

[Felonyass Monk]

Metal burner said "Felonyass Monk sold me his Hobart Titan 8"
Actually Felonyass monks brother sold you the titan and he has the rest of my gear.
I have retired from the rat race for medical reasons but will be lurking around the site
Felon :drinkup:
ps have fun with the titan:)

[Zebadiah]

Metal burner said "Felonyass Monk sold me his Hobart Titan 8"
Actually Felonyass monks brother sold you the titan and he has the rest of my gear.
I have retired from the rat race for medical reasons but will be lurking around the site
Felon
ps have fun with the titan

Sorry to hear your ailing,hope its nothing too serious.
Zeb

[metal burner]

Duly noted and congratulations on the "new" machine.

Thanks Duane...it is a great lil machine !

[metal burner]

Thanks..it runs great ..have done alot of things with it thus far!

[MetalArchitect]

What kind of gas consumption do you guys get with your Titans? I've had mine for a couple years now and have used it for welding and light generator uses.

With the East coast storm that just hit I started her up to generate power for our refrigerator and she went through a whole tank full of gas (i think about 4 gallons) in a little over an hour :eek:

Any suggestions for better fuel economy...gas is now hard to come by in the New York Tri-state area