Another Everlast customer.

[Ram48]

While Everlast had a Black Friday sale this weekend and I decided to upgrade from my Hobart Handler 135 to their Power Mig 200 I read many reviews and feel good about the customer service and Oleg walked me thru the decision process of what I needed . he was honest and talked me out of buying way to much machine. I found an Everlast Tig 250ex used less then a year old and three or four hours running time. A customer got two of them in hopes of increasing his shop business and found he only needed one tig and wanted to get the Everlast 250 Mig instead so listed the second one on a here for sale. I asked Oleg if I should get the used welder or just by a new one from him, at quite a bit more money. He said he remembered guy and told me to buy the used one, on top of that I was worried about the 5 year warranty and Oleg said he would honor the remainder of it even though I am not the original owner. That along with customer reviews and great service sold me on Everlast
Ray McCrodden

[zapster]

Whats with all these "Rah Rah ShisBoom Ba" posts lately??????????:rolleyes:

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[joedirt1966]

Whats with all these "Rah Rah ShisBoom Ba" posts lately??????????:rolleyes:

...zap!

Does it seem like there are more Rah Rah ShisBoom Ba posts from people who just ordered and don't have their machines yet than there are from those who have actually received and used their Everlast welder?:confused:

Or.....is it just me?

[Ram48]

Whats with all these "Rah Rah ShisBoom Ba" posts lately??????????:rolleyes:

...zap!

Does it seem like there are more Rah Rah ShisBoom Ba posts from people who just ordered and don't have their machines yet than there are from those who have actually received and used their Everlast welder?:confused:

Or.....is it just me?

Hey Im just sayin that I was treated well during the purchase. and hell I even got return e mail on Thanksgiving. Im new to this board but do mod a few other sites. I'm a bit surprised at a mod bashing my 11th post and never bothering to welcome me the other ten times I posted. Yeah I know its not a miller or Lincoln and I have been buying American as much as I can most likely since you were kids if not before you were even a twinkle in your parents eyes so dont go there. Where do you think those welders are made? It ain't here in the ol USA.
One question to both of you. Have you always bought American made cars? From the big three? I have and always willand Im 62 years old.
Have a great day.

[joedirt1966]

Not bashing........Just an observation.

I own many, many things made outside the U.S.A.

[lugweld]

What has been happening , at least with Everlast is we have reached a "critical mass" of a customer base. It has reached a level where customers have similar pride and satisfaction in their product. The "shaking" down of potential and current customers and misinformation put out by several people on this board without ANY experience with the product, telling people of bad/under performance, life span, service, and branding buyers as unpatriotic etc, has given more attention to the product. And through that it has become known as an underdog product...and we know Americans love the underdog. I can't tell you the number of people that tell me that they bought because they saw through all the negative rhetoric. Customers are reacting just like anyone would who has a level of pride in their product. There are high numbers of Miller customers that do the same, yet their posts are welcomed or overlooked and their posts are interpreted 100% differently. Yet, they say and do the same thing. Due to many nay sayers over the product, expectations are lowered, but when they receive the product, their expectations are greatly surpassed, hence the posting up of even the smallest purchases. I am not saying we have a perfect organization or the best product in the world, but things have improved, but the negativity has not...and there is a stark contrast that most people can see through. There are intrinsic risks that are involved when buying our product, that no one can deny, with only 6 years of existence, smaller organization, significantly lower dealer numbers, with largely direct marketing, and highly publicize growing pains...Some would site that as a disadvantage, but many see it as a positive, since large stale corporations are have been the focus of much turmoil. We do offer many positives including a competitive product, some unique features and a price point that allows people to cautiously expand their business, or to start one at a price that is well within the budget, and give them an advantage. New people wanting to weld with limited funds or a money conscious spouse, may gravitate toward our product as well.

[d94jonca]

ive had mine almost a year now and it's still all Rah Rah ShisBoom or whatever you wanna call it :)

[Fat Bastard]

Rah Rah ShisBoom another job shipped to China.

Glad to hear you are happy with your purchase, hope your children like rice and chopsticks.

[Ram48]

Rah Rah ShisBoom another job shipped to China.

Glad to hear you are happy with your purchase, hope your children like rice and chopsticks.

Hey Fat Bastard
Tell me what make cars have you owned over the years, what type of TV, Radio, Jeans and furniture do you have? Where do you buy your fuel?
Even that Lincoln or MIller that you may or may not have is not American made. not by a long-shot. You can thank the American Business man for our problems they are the ones that have outsourced manufacturing jobs to other countries
You seem like a pretty smart guy, maybe you can name ten products that are made in America with 100% American made parts, not Canada, Mexico or South America Just the good Ol' USA by union labor.
I bet you drive a Damn import with a Buy American sticker on the bumper.
You have no idea, and probably don't give a rats ***, what sacrifices my family has and is making for your right to be this ignorant.
Raspectfully
Ray Mc

[CEP]

You can thank the American Business man for our problems they are the ones that have outsourced manufacturing jobs to other countries

And our politicians for giving them tax breaks to move manufacturing off shore. With unemployment so high, which equates to less income tax. What a ripple effect this is!
Is there one brain cell left in Washington DC? :angry:

[Fat Bastard]

Hey Fat Bastard
Tell me what make cars have you owned over the years, what type of TV, Radio, Jeans and furniture do you have? Where do you buy your fuel?
Even that Lincoln or MIller that you may or may not have is not American made. not by a long-shot. You can thank the American Business man for our problems they are the ones that have outsourced manufacturing jobs to other countries
You seem like a pretty smart guy, maybe you can name ten products that are made in America with 100% American made parts, not Canada, Mexico or South America Just the good Ol' USA by union labor.
I bet you drive a Damn import with a Buy American sticker on the bumper.
You have no idea, and probably don't give a rats ***, what sacrifices my family has and is making for your right to be this ignorant.
Raspectfully
Ray Mc
More ignorance spewed from the mouth of the establishment media shill.

NAFDA GAT and the like are the main reason jobs have been leaving the USA over the last 20 years.

Your willingness to spend your money with foreign countries rather than your neighbor is the other.


Union labor is the last reason jobs are leaving the USA.

Now pull your head out of the arse of the media machine and do some honest thinking on your own. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Ram48]

More ignorance spewed from the mouth of the establishment media shill.

NAFDA GAT and the like are the main reason jobs have been leaving the USA over the last 20 years.

Your willingness to spend your money with foreign countries rather than your neighbor is the other.


Union labor is the last reason jobs are leaving the USA.

Now pull your head out of the arse of the media machine and do some honest thinking on your own. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

You did not answer even one of my questions and your remark about unions show me that you either mis-understood my post or have no reading comprehension
so here it is again. answer some of it before you spew any more unintelligible BS.

Originally Posted by Ram48 View Post
Hey Fat Bastard
Tell me what make cars have you owned over the years, what type of TV, Radio, Jeans and furniture do you have? Where do you buy your fuel?
Even that Lincoln or MIller that you may or may not have is not American made. not by a long-shot. You can thank the American Business man for our problems they are the ones that have outsourced manufacturing jobs to other countries
You seem like a pretty smart guy, maybe you can name ten products that are made in America with 100% American made parts, not Canada, Mexico or South America Just the good Ol' USA by union labor.
I bet you drive a Damn import with a Buy American sticker on the bumper.
You have no idea, and probably don't give a rats ***, what sacrifices my family has and is making for your right to be this ignorant.
Raspectfully
Ray Mc

[zapster]

One question to both of you. Have you always bought American made cars? From the big three? I have and always willand Im 62 years old.
Have a great day.


Yup.
Never owned a riceburner car and never will:angry:
Currently own a '66 Falcon and a '81 Chevy Malibu.

I bleed Ford Blue.

...zap!

[ASE_MasterTech]

Rah Rah ShisBoom another job shipped to China.

Glad to hear you are happy with your purchase, hope your children like rice and chopsticks.

Any high school level economics course would clue you into the fact that the USA has not been a 'manufacturing' based economy for at least the past 20yrs. Technology & Innovation are currently the principle drivers governing US jobs, so if you want to assign blame for lost jobs, perhaps you should seek out educational institute forums, as educators are responsible for the abysmal educational ratings of US students entering the workplace. :gunsfirin
Or you can blame Al Gore for inventing the Internet & creating a Globally based economy :laugh: (where anyone can buy anything from anywhere :dizzy:)

Adapt or die my friend, welcome to the real world. :drinkup:

[Ram48]

Yup.
Never owned a riceburner car and never will:angry:
Currently own a '66 Falcon and a '81 Chevy Malibu.

I bleed Ford Blue.

...zap!

Zap
Two nice cars. is the falcon a sprint?
I got a 70 Chevelle convert. and a dodge Ram. Sold a 57 chevy that I built and won two nationals with when my daughter got married a few years ago. Wife has an Equinox and my son and I built an srt4 that runs 10.33 at 143 in the 1/4. with a 2.4L 4 cyl and a big turbo.

[GWD]

Any high school level economics course would clue you into the fact that the USA has not been a 'manufacturing' based economy for at least the past 20yrs. Technology & Innovation are currently the principle drivers governing US jobs, so if you want to assign blame for lost jobs, perhaps you should seek out educational institute forums, as educators are responsible for the abysmal educational ratings of US students entering the workplace. :gunsfirin
Or you can blame Al Gore for inventing the Internet & creating a Globally based economy :laugh: (where anyone can buy anything from anywhere :dizzy:)

Adapt or die my friend, welcome to the real world. :drinkup:

It is soooooo much deeper than that but is also soooooo much off topic to not be dealt with here.

[Fat Bastard]

61'F100 84'F250 99'F350 65'Mustang 70'Challenger 60'ElCamino (sp) 82'Toyota 71'Porsche 84'Audi
86' Merc. 69'Ford 2T Need I go on.

That we are not manufacturing much is the point We have become a nation of information traders. Money changers.

This is a false economy because people still need / want goods not just services.
We are and will continue to be held hostage to the manufactures of the world better that those manufactures are your neighbor NO?

[ASE_MasterTech]

It is soooooo much deeper than that but is also soooooo much off topic to not be dealt with here.

So sorry, not trying to get off topic, just trying to enlighten overall..

Btw, in addition to my day job, I am an Automotive Technology Instructor at the local College 3 night a week. Believe me, they could lose half the professors/instructors here without noticing. One Professor use's "Bill Nye the Science guy" videos as his sole classroom material, what a shame. If i were a parent paying tuition, I would be livid...

[brucer]

you guys that are pushing USA USA is all good, i'm for the USA also, i hope we get out of the funk we're in, hope we can compete somehow, our government is to crooked, insurance companies are too crooked to allow it.. thanks to bill clintons nafta, and now obabma care, tis just gonna drive us farther in the hole...

now to the ones bashing foreign machines, just reach over and turn your computer off and throw it out the window, now turn off your cell phone and toss it out ,also along with your tv and satellite reciever or cable box thats made in taiwan/china. refrigerator and freezer you can probably toss it also, if its a Whirlpool or GE its probably made in mexico.. dbl check the shirt, pants, and underwear you have on because i havent found a made in usa shirt in years. toss your hat also, probably made in bangladesh..

pull the engine in your ford,gm, and dodge. i owned a ford ranger with a 2.3liter 4 cylinder made in canada, 95 ford f150-300 inline6 made in canada, 2004 dodge ram with hemi made in mexico... i know a couple years ago gm engines were manufactured in mexico and canada, i have a 1978 350 4bolt main block that come out of a highway dept truck its hencho in mexico....
also pull the sensors and wiring and ignitions out of any vehicle you own.. gm ignitions are designed and built by mitsubishi, their diesel engines designed by izusu, i know i built alot of the tooling here in the US which was then shipped overseas so parts could be produced.. :gunsfirin duramax or izusu?:laugh: ... gm bought out isuzu in the 90's..

everywhere you look just about everything is made out of country anymore.. you have to thank bill clinton first, then the companies for following NAFTA and simply outsourcing and relocating entire plants just like clinton wanted..

i also have to blame alot on the unions, when someone doing the same job is making 1/2 of what a union worker is, and getting far less benefits (medical insurance and retirement) and the union worker is sitting on his *** doing nothing all day... i've seen this all too often at several local plants.. i've seen one company simply lock out a union. that company is still going, union simply folded and left, where did your dues go? the company is actually more productive with fewer non-union workers on the floor... i'm a machinist tool&die maker, i've walked into a semi-local plant to pick up a job, i had to go into the union machine shop where 6 people were simply sleeping on the job, including the foreman, had to wake the lazya$$ up and get him to wake up another guy to load my truck..you know the union chain of command, pretty sad, but from what i've seen thats your typical union.. go steelworkers! your failing and you know it, get it while you can.

i hope the everlast welders sell good and perform good and last.. all it will do is drive the price down on the red and blue machines, which they are already doing.. look at the lincoln precision tig 225 and the miller diversions, they have dropped pricing within the last 2 yrs.. i would almost bet lincoln and miller both are getting most of their boards and electronics made in china and shipping them in and then assembling the complete welder and tagging them made in the usa.. only a percentage has to be made in usa to apply that sticker or stamp..

[brucer]

Zap
Two nice cars. is the falcon a sprint?
I got a 70 Chevelle convert. and a dodge Ram. Sold a 57 chevy that I built and won two nationals with when my daughter got married a few years ago. Wife has an Equinox and my son and I built an srt4 that runs 10.33 at 143 in the 1/4. with a 2.4L 4 cyl and a big turbo.

dont check where the dodges are made youll likely to get rid of them.. the new hemis are mexican, my 04 is anyways..no telling where the srt-4 is made..

[brucer]

Any high school level economics course would clue you into the fact that the USA has not been a 'manufacturing' based economy for at least the past 20yrs. Technology & Innovation are currently the principle drivers governing US jobs, so if you want to assign blame for lost jobs, perhaps you should seek out educational institute forums, as educators are responsible for the abysmal educational ratings of US students entering the workplace. :gunsfirin
Or you can blame Al Gore for inventing the Internet & creating a Globally based economy :laugh: (where anyone can buy anything from anywhere :dizzy:)

Adapt or die my friend, welcome to the real world. :drinkup:

al gore invented the internet? haha... thats funny, i dont care who you are..

[Ram48]

dont check where the dodges are made youll likely to get rid of them.. the new hemis are mexican, my 04 is anyways..no telling where the srt-4 is made..
hemi is from mexico. and the srt block is an Evo But its about as close to American as you can get.. I agree with your points (except for your take on unions) and stated them earlier to Fat Bastard. God I love that name.This thread is so far OT I am not even gonna try and get it back. As a NASCAR official said "Have at it boys" :blob3::blob3::gunsfirin

[d94jonca]

Rah Rah ShisBoom another job shipped to China.

Glad to hear you are happy with your purchase, hope your children like rice and chopsticks.

i'll buy a welder that was importer by miller when you show me how you are not using any insurance companies, banks, hospitals etc that out source software design to india. until that day comes i'll keep the indians at bay by simply being better than they are, and i'll keep spending my money where i get the most for them. i suggest you do the same.

[fire1hawk]

So the argument is to not buy American since most everything isn't made here? We can't all work at McDonalds. Someone HAS to make something.

[ASE_MasterTech]

So the argument is to not buy American since most everything isn't made here? We can't all work at McDonalds. Someone HAS to make something.
I thought this was a discussion..
You buy 'American' most times you purchase a product that required innovation..
al gore invented the internet? haha... thats funny, i dont care who you are..
Sorry, thought it was clear I was joking with the laughing emoticon I added at the end of the sentence..


& apologies for getting involved in this threads misdirection.. :(

[Taiden]

One day, in the distant future, someone will be able to post up positive experiences regarding a company selling chinese welders, without it breaking out into mass hysteria about.. the economy, job outsourcing, patriotism, and speculations on quality.

I await this day...

[Taiden]

So the argument is to not buy American since most everything isn't made here? We can't all work at McDonalds. Someone HAS to make something.

Yeah, use your welder, chinese or USA, to build things. Isn't that why we are here?? :drinkup:

[lugweld]

Taiden,
Your comment is dead on. Somehow, using an imported welder to MAKE american product is not valid in many peoples eyes.

It reminds me of the "organic" issues surrounding food. Food cannot be called "organically" grown if the seed wasn't produced organically, or if the farm hasn't been farmed organically for certain number of years...Yet when people think of "organic" food, they think of pesticide free product, touting the health benefits. But organic food is anything but pesticide free. There are large numbers of "organic" pesticides on the market now that kill things deader than a door nail that are used on these farms on a routine, daily basis. One such pesticide is linked strongly to leukemia, yet has been given strong support by the organic industry because it is all natural. Yet because of rhetoric and misinformation, many people think it is better and healthier than other types of grown food. Its really a matter of semantics and rhetoric that give a good or bad impression of the product, and the use of "emotional" pleas (or insecure belittlement) by people like FB to buy from their neighbor...seems like a good idea. But he has yet to define what a neighbor is. He lives in Alaska...So it seems his neighborhood might be either Russia or Canada....But who is going to define what buying from a neighbor is? People in Texas along the border might look at Mexico...Should the boundary of a neighborhood be defined and limited only in way that fits someones prejudiced values?

[brucer]

I thought this was a discussion..
You buy 'American' most times you purchase a product that required innovation..

Sorry, thought it was clear I was joking with the laughing emoticon I added at the end of the sentence..


& apologies for getting involved in this threads misdirection.. :(

i thought your were kidding, i was too.. i thought it was funny...

[WeldingRay]

Yea Lug, FB kinda gives Alaskan's a bad name, we’re not all like that.
Lets see if he was to want an Everlast welder he would have to but it directly or indirectly from his neighbor, in Chugiak. More of his money would stay in the US than go out, he would be keeping a few Alaskan’s employed as well as several other Americans, and unless he builds or services robotic assembly equipment I don’t think he’s going to lose any work, but rather gain some.
Shopped at AIH lately F? Most everything is made in you know where.

[Fat Bastard]

i'll buy a welder that was importer by miller when you show me how you are not using any insurance companies, banks, hospitals etc that out source software design to india. until that day comes i'll keep the indians at bay by simply being better than they are, and i'll keep spending my money where i get the most for them. i suggest you do the same.

Your ignorance is epic, your foolishness sad.

[smawgmaw]

One day, in the distant future, someone will be able to post up positive experiences regarding a company selling chinese welders, without it breaking out into mass hysteria about.. the economy, job outsourcing, patriotism, and speculations on quality.

I await this day...

And all this flaming started or allowed to start/continue by a moderator! Go figure! Last I understood they were here to prevent this sort of nonsense from occuring or gaining any momentum. Guess they are not doing what they are supposed to be doing or the forum doesnt really need them at all. :confused:

[smilexelectric]

I'm surprised no mod has jumped in. It's disappointing.

[smawgmaw]

I'm surprised no mod has jumped in. It's disappointing.

:confused:

One has. Check out post #2 of this thread.


"Whats with all these "Rah Rah ShisBoom Ba" posts lately??????????

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