Wanted - wire feeder to use with Miller XMT300

[TubularFab]

I am looking for a wire feeder that I can use with my CC/CV multiprocess Miller power supply. Would prefer a miller brand, but any that could be made to work with it will be considered.

Thanks,
Jason - Atlanta area

[MAC702]

The Miller 22A is pretty much the standard for that machine. Are you looking for used ones or just recommendations in general?

[handsonexperience]

I have several S54's. Do you also need remote cable, lead and gas hose? You need gun?

[Ries]

I would just buy a new S22- the part of a welder most likely to be worn out is the wire feeder- it has the most moving parts.
And who wants to **** around with wire birdsnesting.

A new S22 is only something like 600 bucks- considering its a 3000 dollar power supply, that doesnt seem like a lot.

One thing- you will be really happy with the way that power supply mig welds- I have one, and when I put my S22 on it, it is the sweetest mig welder I have ever used- the same wire feeder is noticeably better welding on the XMT than it is on an older power supply.

[halbritt]

The XMT provides 24VAC power for a wire feeder. I believe the 50 series feeders run off 115VAC, so they'd require a transformer. The 60 and 70 series feeders would work just fine as well as the S22 and a couple of suitcase feeders. I scored an excellent S-64 off of ebay for about $500. You could probably do the same.

As for worn out parts, most of the parts on a feeder that are prone to wear are also easily replaced consumables.

[handsonexperience]

Must be my mistake,,I thought the XMT's would run both 115V and 24V feeders via rewiring remote cable or by using the 14pin remote plug.
But, Panozeng, if you're still looking I'm cleaning up and repainting an S62 that I'll take $800 for when I'm done and it will come with 25' of remote cable, welding lead and gas hose.

[halbritt]

They'll run either kind of feeder, but I believe transformer is required for 115VAC feeders which is what you're describing as a "rewiring remote cable". The transformer from miller generally runs a few hundred dollars.

An S-62 is a good feeder, but $800 is a bit steep unless it's in perfect condition and includes a nice MIG gun.

[handsonexperience]

Me thinks you may be wrong. The whole purpose of the 14pin plug, I'm pretty sure, is to supply power for 24V,42V and 115V feeders, at least to the wiring diagram I'm viewing on the 450series Deltawelds I own.
And ANYTHING I sell to anyone else WILL BE in EXCELLENT condition. When we go through any equipment for/to resell we completely disassemble, clean, repaint and replace ANY part that even looks suspicious and then we THOROUGHLY test it for performance.
$800.00 is a real good price for one of my S62 or S64's with 25' of remote cable, welding lead and gas hose, NO GUN. If someone can find one for less more power to 'em.
But thanx for your imput.

[MAC702]

Me thinks you may be wrong. The whole purpose of the 14pin plug, I'm pretty sure, is to supply power for 24V,42V and 115V feeders, at least to the wiring diagram I'm viewing on the 450series Deltawelds I own.
Now, you're going to make me go look it up. But, Just because it's a "14-pin" connection, doesn't mean it has all 14 pins available. My Miller Trailblazer 301G had no provision for 115V feeders. The factory had underestimated the demand for them as there are still several of us that have old ones that are still working fine, like my Millermatic 80A. It took them 6 months to design and build, but I received the factory's first upgrade to put the 115V pins into my 14-pin connector. This entailed installing a new motherboard, among other things. I don't know about the XMT, yet.

[halbritt]

Me thinks you may be wrong. The whole purpose of the 14pin plug, I'm pretty sure, is to supply power for 24V,42V and 115V feeders, at least to the wiring diagram I'm viewing on the 450series Deltawelds I own.
And ANYTHING I sell to anyone else WILL BE in EXCELLENT condition. When we go through any equipment for/to resell we completely disassemble, clean, repaint and replace ANY part that even looks suspicious and then we THOROUGHLY test it for performance.
$800.00 is a real good price for one of my S62 or S64's with 25' of remote cable, welding lead and gas hose, NO GUN. If someone can find one for less more power to 'em.
But thanx for your imput.

Yep, I am wrong. The XMT series provides both 24VAC and 115VAC on the 14-pin connector (I checked the manual).

I have to disagree that $800 is a good price for a 60-series feeder with meters or timers. That may be true in a local market, but one can purchase brand new 22A feeders from various Internet suppliers for less than $900. As I stated, I got an S-64 for $500 in almost new condition and I frequently see them self for roughly that price. I'm just trying to be informative though, I encourage you to get as much you can for it.

[handsonexperience]

I would very much be interested in any more 62/64's you could find for $500 or less. I have folks looking for them all of the time. I have a lot of friends in the Houston area that do production oilfield equipment and there seems to be plenty of power supplies around but their welders seem to have contests on who can abuse the wirefeeds the most. They want my 'feeders but I need to sell my units together so I don't get stuck with a bunch of power supplies...

[smithboy]

I have seen more than a couple on ebay go for somewhere in that range ($500-$650). There aren't any right now, but if you check in every so often you will see them. Put the ones you are interested in into your "watch list" so you can find out what they sell for after bidding ends. Otherwise, you will not find out the final price. Obviously, final price depends on both supply AND demand, so past prices may not be a good indication of present or future prices, but, like Heath, I have seen them sell nice ones in that range. But I have also seen them sell for higher...it just depends. I was in the market for one a while back, but ended up with a better deal on something else.

Now, keep in mind, you are often buying in AS-IS condition when getting one off ebay...so, any discounts often come with risks.

Just search on WIRE FEEDER, and monitor them...

[TubularFab]

Wow - I made that post then totally forgot about doing so! Was looking through the forum for interesting topics, and though this sounded like a good one. Turns out it was mine! Dang - I'm not getting THAT old yet! Must be the stress of starting a new shop in the middle of just becoming a dad for the first time...

I have been watching Ebay and so far been outbid on a couple of units. I really don't care to go too high without seeing them in person first.

I do see new 22a feeders on there with buy it now's of $800 - $900. So, you say the price new from a dealer should be about $600? Maybe I should check my local Miller dealers.

I have focused primarily on feeders with the lead and gun on Ebay just so it doesn't nickel dime me to get it set up. I have actually preferred Miller guns over tweeco's and Bernards on welders I've used. I plan on doing a lot of roll cage work so a smaller gun is preferred. I don't like the fact that most guns have the tip a stretched out a good bit from the handle and trigger - Millers guns don't seem to have this problem. I also find the Miller slide on nozzle much less frustrating that a tweeco screw on. Most of our tweecos at work would rather unscrew at the end of the extension that at the nozzle when you try to clean then... But, I will go with a tweeco - just prefer a Miller.

I look forward to finding a nice unit - will be such an upgrade from my old Silver Beauty welder!

[halbritt]

I'd definitely recommend a four-roll feeder if you can find one. It helps when running a 15' lead. Personally, I wasn't too concerned about getting a feeder without a gun. I got a great deal on a new-ish feeder and then added a brand new gun and drive rolls, which were the parts that I was most concerned about.

The 400A Miller Roughneck guns(made by Bernard) sell pretty cheaply on ebay, which is what I got for my feeder. I like it, but it certainly doesn't qualify as a small gun. The M-series, which I suspect is what you're referring to as a Miller gun seems less common. I've seen a few new M-10s, which are cheap, but have a poor duty cycle. M-15s and M-25s are hard to come by.