lincoln 175

[slaggy]

Hello, is the Lincoln 175 sufficient enough to build a small trailer, could I use a single pass process.
I would like to use 1/4" angle iron and square tubing using flux cored wire.


Thanks.

[Rollman]

Plenty big enough . You can weld 1/2" with flux core in the machine . Don't forget to take pics and post of them for all to see.

[99blackzr2]

Plenty big enough . You can weld 1/2" with flux core in the machine . Don't forget to take pics and post of them for all to see.does anyone agree with me that you can not weld 1/2?not enough penetration.

[spuddown]

I wouldn't try it with a single pass. It could be done with multiple passes though. I use 5/64 wire in a LN 25 powered by a SAM 400 and I don't weld 1/2" in a single pass.

[Sandy]

I wouldn't try it with a single pass. It could be done with multiple passes though. I use 5/64 wire in a LN 25 powered by a SAM 400 and I don't weld 1/2" in a single pass.

I'm with you on this for sure. Regardless of machine, it takes what it takes. There are just too many variables for blanket statements like yes or no, single pass is fine.

But yes, a 175 is adequate for building a trailer with 1/4 inch material provided the skill level is there too.

[Sandy]

does anyone agree with me that you can not weld 1/2?not enough penetration.

I will agree that a 175 even with FCAW is not the right set up for a 1/2 inch diet. For the more basic tasks involving mild steel, if an occassion arises where some 1/2 inch is involved it can be done. Proper joint prep, proper technique, the proper filler, and plenty of checking your work will allow it. I'd keep it to a minimum and give it 110% effort for sure.

We have all done these things. I've done plenty of things I wouldn't recommend. :) I've done 3/8ths & 1/2 inch with my 175, and even worse. Problem number two is it pulls the guts right out of the machine. Problem number one is that it is something that can be done but can't be gauranteed. Not if done by me anyway. If 3/8ths and 1/2 inch is something you need to do on a regular basis a 175 is the wrong machine for sure.

A scenario might be a ripper tooth for a tractor. If your 175 and your skills aren't up to the task you break a tooth off. No big deal, go pick it up and go whimpering back to the shop. If you are placing a 1/2 inch lifting eyelet on an overhead crane, think about it.

So the long and short is be carefull of what blanket statements you make on an open forum. To say that it is not recommended to use a 175 class of machine for 1/2 inch is a good recommendation. You did good by stepping up to the plate and questioning the application.

[99blackzr2]

I will agree that a 175 even with FCAW is not the right set up for a 1/2 inch diet. For the more basic tasks involving mild steel, if an occassion arises where some 1/2 inch is involved it can be done. Proper joint prep, proper technique, the proper filler, and plenty of checking your work will allow it. I'd keep it to a minimum and give it 110% effort for sure.

We have all done these things. I've done plenty of things I wouldn't recommend. :) I've done 3/8ths & 1/2 inch with my 175, and even worse. Problem number two is it pulls the guts right out of the machine. Problem number one is that it is something that can be done but can't be gauranteed. Not if done by me anyway. If 3/8ths and 1/2 inch is something you need to do on a regular basis a 175 is the wrong machine for sure.

A scenario might be a ripper tooth for a tractor. If your 175 and your skills aren't up to the task you break a tooth off. No big deal, go pick it up and go whimpering back to the shop. If you are placing a 1/2 inch lifting eyelet on an overhead crane, think about it.

So the long and short is be carefull of what blanket statements you make on an open forum. To say that it is not recommended to use a 175 class of machine for 1/2 inch is a good recommendation. You did good by stepping up to the plate and questioning the application.i own a 175hd and i think that 1/4 is about the limit for single pass.i wouldnt trust 1/2 on anything load bearing that i was welding.i am new to welding so thats why i was asking if anyone did agree.thanks

[Rollman]

does anyone agree with me that you can not weld 1/2?not enough penetration.

Lincon makes the claim 1/2 " can be welded . The 175 wouldn't be my pick if your doing 1/2" all day long.


http://www.mylincolnelectric.com/Catalog/equipmentdatasheet.asp?p=7083

[99blackzr2]

Lincon makes the claim 1/2 " can be welded . The 175 wouldn't be my pick if your doing 1/2" all day long.


http://www.mylincolnelectric.com/Catalog/equipmentdatasheet.asp?p=7083yes it says 1/2 with .045 and multiple pass. i personally wouldn't trust it for something load bearing

[Rollman]

yes it says 1/2 with .045 and multiple pass. i personally wouldn't trust it for something load bearing




SP-175 Plus
Combination Wire Feeder/MIG and Flux-Cored Welder
List Price:966.00 (USD) *See Details
K1642-3 SP-175 Plus 208/230/1/60

The SP-175 Plus is all about welding power and control! This work-loving, compact, portable wire feeder/welder makes MIG or flux-cored welding on mild steel easy. MIG welding on stainless steel or aluminum can be simple as well. Continuous output controls on the 208/230V powered SP-175 Plus let you fine-tune both the wire feed speed and the voltage output — so you get a quality weld time after time! And getting started on your mild steel project with MIG welding is straightforward — just add a cylinder of shielding gas and personal safety equipment.

Advantage Lincoln
• Ready To Weld! Includes mild steel MIG wire and adjustable gas regulator and hose kit. Just add shielding gas and personal safety equipment (sold separately).
• Continuous full-range adjustment of voltage and wire feed speed allows for fine-tuning of the arc and precise control of arc energy, or heat input.
• MIG weld on mild steel as thin as 24 gauge with .025" SuperArc™ L-56 wire. Flux-cored wire weld up to 5/16" mild steel plate with Innershield® NR®-211-MP and up to 1/2" plate with .045" Innershield NR-212. Add K663-2 to weld 22 gauge through 1/4" aluminum.
• Designed to feed .023-.035" (0.6-0.9mm) diameter mild and stainless steel MIG wire, .035"-.045" (0.9mm-1.2mm) diameter flux-cored wire and .035" diameter 4043 aluminum MIG wire.
• Welder settings reference chart conveniently located inside wire feed section door makes it easy to set the machine for mild steel welding jobs.
• Gun trigger safety feature keeps welding wire electrically "cold" until trigger is pressed.
• Adjustable brake spindle accommodates both 8" (200mm) diameter and 4" (100mm) diameter spools of wire.
• Built-in "burnback" function insures proper wire stick-out after each weld with no sticking in the weld puddle.
• Three year warranty on parts and labor. (90 days warranty on gun and cable).


I see no mention of multiple pass! To get back on the subject .

The thread starter wanted to know if this machine was capable of welding 1/4 " in a single pass . To answer that question, yes its very capable . Weld away Slaggy

[99blackzr2]

SP-175 Plus
Combination Wire Feeder/MIG and Flux-Cored Welder
List Price:966.00 (USD) *See Details
K1642-3 SP-175 Plus 208/230/1/60

The SP-175 Plus is all about welding power and control! This work-loving, compact, portable wire feeder/welder makes MIG or flux-cored welding on mild steel easy. MIG welding on stainless steel or aluminum can be simple as well. Continuous output controls on the 208/230V powered SP-175 Plus let you fine-tune both the wire feed speed and the voltage output — so you get a quality weld time after time! And getting started on your mild steel project with MIG welding is straightforward — just add a cylinder of shielding gas and personal safety equipment.

Advantage Lincoln
• Ready To Weld! Includes mild steel MIG wire and adjustable gas regulator and hose kit. Just add shielding gas and personal safety equipment (sold separately).
• Continuous full-range adjustment of voltage and wire feed speed allows for fine-tuning of the arc and precise control of arc energy, or heat input.
• MIG weld on mild steel as thin as 24 gauge with .025" SuperArc™ L-56 wire. Flux-cored wire weld up to 5/16" mild steel plate with Innershield® NR®-211-MP and up to 1/2" plate with .045" Innershield NR-212. Add K663-2 to weld 22 gauge through 1/4" aluminum.
• Designed to feed .023-.035" (0.6-0.9mm) diameter mild and stainless steel MIG wire, .035"-.045" (0.9mm-1.2mm) diameter flux-cored wire and .035" diameter 4043 aluminum MIG wire.
• Welder settings reference chart conveniently located inside wire feed section door makes it easy to set the machine for mild steel welding jobs.
• Gun trigger safety feature keeps welding wire electrically "cold" until trigger is pressed.
• Adjustable brake spindle accommodates both 8" (200mm) diameter and 4" (100mm) diameter spools of wire.
• Built-in "burnback" function insures proper wire stick-out after each weld with no sticking in the weld puddle.
• Three year warranty on parts and labor. (90 days warranty on gun and cable).


I see no mention of multiple pass! To get back on the subject .

The thread starter wanted to know if this machine was capable of welding 1/4 " in a single pass . To answer that question, yes its very capable . Weld away Slaggyclick on link.http://content.lincolnelectric.com/pdfs/products/literature/e735.pdf scroll down and look at the graph.its also in the owners manual.anything over 1/4 multiple pass

[gnm109]

SP-175 Plus
Combination Wire Feeder/MIG and Flux-Cored Welder
List Price:966.00 (USD) *See Details
K1642-3 SP-175 Plus 208/230/1/60

The SP-175 Plus is all about welding power and control! This work-loving, compact, portable wire feeder/welder makes MIG or flux-cored welding on mild steel easy. MIG welding on stainless steel or aluminum can be simple as well. Continuous output controls on the 208/230V powered SP-175 Plus let you fine-tune both the wire feed speed and the voltage output — so you get a quality weld time after time! And getting started on your mild steel project with MIG welding is straightforward — just add a cylinder of shielding gas and personal safety equipment.

Advantage Lincoln
• Ready To Weld! Includes mild steel MIG wire and adjustable gas regulator and hose kit. Just add shielding gas and personal safety equipment (sold separately).
• Continuous full-range adjustment of voltage and wire feed speed allows for fine-tuning of the arc and precise control of arc energy, or heat input.
• MIG weld on mild steel as thin as 24 gauge with .025" SuperArc™ L-56 wire. Flux-cored wire weld up to 5/16" mild steel plate with Innershield® NR®-211-MP and up to 1/2" plate with .045" Innershield NR-212. Add K663-2 to weld 22 gauge through 1/4" aluminum.
• Designed to feed .023-.035" (0.6-0.9mm) diameter mild and stainless steel MIG wire, .035"-.045" (0.9mm-1.2mm) diameter flux-cored wire and .035" diameter 4043 aluminum MIG wire.
• Welder settings reference chart conveniently located inside wire feed section door makes it easy to set the machine for mild steel welding jobs.
• Gun trigger safety feature keeps welding wire electrically "cold" until trigger is pressed.
• Adjustable brake spindle accommodates both 8" (200mm) diameter and 4" (100mm) diameter spools of wire.
• Built-in "burnback" function insures proper wire stick-out after each weld with no sticking in the weld puddle.
• Three year warranty on parts and labor. (90 days warranty on gun and cable).


I see no mention of multiple pass! To get back on the subject .

The thread starter wanted to know if this machine was capable of welding 1/4 " in a single pass . To answer that question, yes its very capable . Weld away Slaggy


I have the SP175 plus and I run on C02. I'm certain that it will do 1/4" mild steel in one pass. I've done that on a door frame for a powdercoat oven that I'm building. It might do the 1/2" they claim on .045 fluxcore but I probably will never find out since I like solid wire and CO2. I sorta think that might be pushing it a bit.

As a hobbyist, the vast majority of things that I would do are 1/8" to 3/16" or so and this machine will eat that stuff up.