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ak4130
11-14-2011, 03:44 PM
I got these old lincoln ideal arc 250 ac/dc stick welders from a school.The tombstone kind with the round top .Was told they run but only on AC because of kids screwing around and switching the polarity under load the rectifiers were shot..

Was wondering how much a new rectifier would cost for one of these things..

Just hoping its not something llike 500$ which is what I was told,( but Im unsure of that)

Stick-man
11-14-2011, 06:48 PM
If we went with caining in this country, those kids wouldn't be beating up a defenseless awesome welder.:realmad:

I don't know about the rectifier, but I picked up an AC/DC Idealarc 250 for $104.50. That was the lowest I've seen. The high being around $500.00. Keep a search going for one smashed up or so. What a shame, I hope you find one.

papaharley03
11-14-2011, 08:07 PM
I got these old lincoln ideal arc 250 ac/dc stick welders from a school.The tombstone kind with the round top .Was told they run but only on AC because of kids screwing around and switching the polarity under load the rectifiers were shot..

Was wondering how much a new rectifier would cost for one of these things..

Just hoping its not something llike 500$ which is what I was told,( but Im unsure of that)

A location in your profile will help folks steer you to resources that might be local to you.

Also, if you post the serial and code numbers for the welder then others can determine what rectifier stack you have in your machine. The design has changed a few times of the years. There are some other threads on this forum from those who have replaced/modified their rectifier stack on these machines. You'll pay big bucks to order the whole thing from Lincoln, but the individual components are available from online sources once you/we determine what diodes you have.

Just saying...

Papa

jdchmiel
11-14-2011, 09:44 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-BRIDGE-DIODE-MODULE-300AMP-HIGH-OUTPUT-/250629037262?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item3a5aa79cce#ht_1908wt_907

this ebay seller seems to have 3 phase rectifier modules listed all the time. Or, you could get individual diodes and use them. $65 seems like a good price for a 300 amp bridge. He has a 500 amp unit, and a differnet one with a build in heat sink for a bit more.

Silicon-based
11-14-2011, 10:11 PM
If it doesn't weld on DC because the polarity was switched under load, it may be the switch, not the rectifier that died. If I were you, I'd check the polarity switch contacts before I replaced diodes.

John

ccawgc
11-16-2011, 02:08 AM
Get an ohm meter and test the diodes, looking for shorts. If they have been welding in AC with out problems and no conductors have been disconnected, Then the diodes are most likely OK and the polarity switch is shot. Replaced only a few diodes, but have replaced and lot of line and polarity switches.
The diodes are in circuit all the time, only the output terminals are switched from the DC to AC circuits,

ak4130
11-16-2011, 05:22 PM
Appreciate the replies..

Took it into work,hooked it up struck some arcs on ac, but it was kind of a weak arc..BUT The thing is though the big knob on front is super sticky, not sure if its even working , the little pointer doesnt work either so what amps it was set on is a ? Also struck an arc on DC and it arcs, but there was a louder than average buzzing coming from the machine,so didnt mess with that..

Will check diodes with an ohmmeter tommorow.Going to clean the big knob up good too...

Also code is 7925-c and the serial # is AL 407465

thanks