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SrA_USAF
01-15-2007, 05:55 PM
Sounds crazy but does anyone has any blueprints saved on their computer? The web doesn't have any "actual" drawings..Just a lot of symbols and their meaning. I'm trying to familiarize myself to them and their symbols and how it all goes together. Most of the employers that I have interviewed require the employee to already have knowledge of reading prints:realmad: . What better experience than to have it on the job huh...
Thanks.
zapster
01-15-2007, 07:58 PM
most blueprints are "classified"
surley you are familure with the term...:laugh:
...zap!
Doolittle
01-15-2007, 08:23 PM
Go to a blue printing outfit.. (company's that do nothing but print blue prints i.e. Atlas, WD partners etc. etc.) and ask em if they have any bad prints you could have. Most companies have someone print copies of their drawings (need many copies of a book of blue prints for a structure).
Tell em your learning drafting or something and want to see how its done in the real world. If they say no, just look in the dipsty dumpster. I gaurantee you it will be full of flub ups..(not drawing problems, but prints smeared, or bad finishing or crease etc).
If your real nice and you seem to be getting along with em ask if they can help you understand whats being shown (Dont be suprised if they have no idea).
Any of this seem like good ideas to you?
You could allways take a semester of drafting, I did and it was quite fun. Still dont know if you'd find all the information you need because depending on what your working on, depicts the symbols that will be used. Much like welding, I had never seen the 'arrow', side to weld, thickness of bead, type of joint before.
Zaps right about the classified stuff, but some of its not (public works, gas station, etc).
billie_
01-15-2007, 08:52 PM
what type of blueprints...each trade has their own kind of drawings...some with many "cuts" to show you different parts of the same thing..or some that are mostly 3D..wiring prints...plumbing prints..structural prints..ect.
billie_
01-15-2007, 08:55 PM
erection drawings or fabricating drawings (forgo
t to mention them)
SrA_USAF
01-15-2007, 11:37 PM
I'm looking for mostly what the weldor is going to look at. Erecting, fabrication..As i think about it, production shop work would probably be the best. I read the "Welding Symbols" chapter in my book and got a really good understanding on what they all mean so next would be to see it in action so when they say "can you read prints?" I can be more prepared to answer.
Thanks for the help thus far.:)
lotechman
01-15-2007, 11:55 PM
"Can you read prints" is a standard question. I have heard it too often. Even though there are standards concerning drafting practice every shop has different styles.
There are textbooks on print reading. "Blueprint reading for Welders" is one that comes to mind.
Structural drawings have their own nomenclature and can be pretty confusing unless you know how to apply the abbreviations such as GOSL or sometimes just listed as ga. Gauge on standing leg means the distance from the heel of the angle to the centerline of the holes. Applied to flanges on a beam it is the distance between holes.
One that had me laughing was Near Side and other Other Side in a shipyard I worked in. The O.S. often got confused with other things. The correct is near side and far side. NS & FS
I am also running into third angle projections using the European standard. End views can be seen in error causing all kinds of problems. I notice some sharp draftsmen are labeling all end views to remove all doubt.
littlefuzz
01-16-2007, 01:18 AM
Don't really matter, the prints are usually wrong anyway. :rolleyes:
SrA_USAF
01-16-2007, 08:13 AM
"Can you read prints" is a standard question. I have heard it too often. Even though there are standards concerning drafting practice every shop has different styles.
There are textbooks on print reading. "Blueprint reading for Welders" is one that comes to mind.
Structural drawings have their own nomenclature and can be pretty confusing unless you know how to apply the abbreviations such as GOSL or sometimes just listed as ga. Gauge on standing leg means the distance from the heel of the angle to the centerline of the holes. Applied to flanges on a beam it is the distance between holes.
One that had me laughing was Near Side and other Other Side in a shipyard I worked in. The O.S. often got confused with other things. The correct is near side and far side. NS & FS
I am also running into third angle projections using the European standard. End views can be seen in error causing all kinds of problems. I notice some sharp draftsmen are labeling all end views to remove all doubt.
Ya so their talking about reading them in general. Maybe I could just take a ride to the place and ask to see their operation.
pulser
01-16-2007, 11:33 AM
"Blueprint Reading for Welders" is a book I used in junior college.
It may be a good start.
http://www.amazon.com/Blueprint-Reading-Welders-E-Bennett/dp/0766808521
SrA_USAF
01-16-2007, 12:59 PM
Thanks a lot for all the help everyone.:)
DetailerDave
01-24-2007, 01:35 PM
Whereabouts in eastern Pa are you? I save drawings from all my jobs in the computer. I have PDF drawings if you need some to look at.
SrA_USAF
01-24-2007, 02:17 PM
Whereabouts in eastern Pa are you? I save drawings from all my jobs in the computer. I have PDF drawings if you need some to look at.
I'm from Quakertown. About 45 min north of Philly.
DetailerDave
01-24-2007, 04:01 PM
I'm from Quakertown. About 45 min north of Philly.
I used to work in Willow Grove. I used to visit our vendors up your way frequently. I got your message.
SrA_USAF
01-24-2007, 04:08 PM
I used to work in Willow Grove. I used to visit our vendors up your way frequently. I got your message.
Ya their days are coming to a close very quickly (the base that is)
backuproller
01-24-2007, 09:04 PM
try these
www.draftingzone.com www.tpub.com www.asme.com www.thesheetmetalshop.com www.adda.com www.efunda.com
TozziWelding
02-21-2007, 08:13 PM
After you figure out how to read prints, engineeres will be at the top of "the list".
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