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Jim314
03-28-2004, 08:43 PM
After a trip to the metal purveyor, mowing the lawn, and a short list of honey do's, I finally got a chance to get to the shop. She wants a new queen size bed for the master bedroom, so I get to weld some more. Spent most of Sunday bending and screwing with the scrolls on the headboard. The footboard will be a copy of the headboard, just shorter.
Jim314
03-28-2004, 08:45 PM
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Jim314
03-28-2004, 08:46 PM
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dulknife
03-28-2004, 09:07 PM
jim i think that is very neat. do you have a patent on it or can i copy it. what did you fill the joints with. ken
arcdawg
03-28-2004, 09:28 PM
REAL NICE MAN !!!!!!
Jim314
03-28-2004, 09:30 PM
No dulknife, please copy it and post some pics when your done. The only joint that had to be filled was where the heart met the other scrolls. I had some small cutoffs that I put in the viod and just welded over them.
Sticky
03-28-2004, 09:51 PM
Jim,
You do very nice work.
dulknife
03-28-2004, 10:17 PM
jim
one mose question. did you use the the template kit or just do it as you went thanks
ken
Jim314
03-28-2004, 10:45 PM
I just did it as I went. The only feature I knew (or she knew) I wanted was the heart in the center. I just kinda built off of it once it was done. It's actually quite a bit different than what I had pictured in my mind before starting, but that's what I like about scrolls. You make 'em and stick 'em where you think they will look best to keep the design symetrical and flowing (Franz, I think I may be in need of a Retrosexual lesson here ):p
And dulknife, if you want any measurements, I'll be glad to post them.
Franz
03-28-2004, 11:18 PM
Jim, all I'm gopnna say here is check the finish for handcuff scratch resistance before you paint or powder coat. Chips are just gonna look bad after all that fancy work.
Jim314
03-28-2004, 11:35 PM
Handcuffs? In a bedroom? Is this one of those Retrosexual things?
YJMike
03-31-2004, 12:28 AM
No chips if you use the fuzzy handcuffs!!!
mariner41
03-31-2004, 12:46 AM
Jim , Nice work on the head board. I was noticing an open book with scroll patterns on the page,that caught my eye, just behind the head board on the bench, in the pictures you posted. I was wondering if you can post the info on it, if it's a companys catalog, or a book publication with the authors name. Any info is appreciated, thanks.
mariner41
Jim314
03-31-2004, 08:25 AM
Thanks Mariner. It's a King Architectural Metals catalog. It has a lot of scroll work pictured. Great for an ideas book. I had orginally planned on doing a scroll piece very similar to one I had bought from King Metals for my first bed. But it ended up being completely different from what I had originally planned. You can order a free catalog from them.
http://www.kingmetals.com/index.html
john pen
03-31-2004, 11:42 AM
Jim, Just got the hf scroller/benthtop bender. Made a nice lamp so far, and looking to do a headboard like yours. My question is what did you use to get the arch comming from the heart between the scrolls towards the outside on the bottom half?
By the way, nice job
Jim314
03-31-2004, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by john pen
Jim, Just got the hf scroller/benthtop bender. Made a nice lamp so far, and looking to do a headboard like yours. My question is what did you use to get the arch comming from the heart between the scrolls towards the outside on the bottom half?
By the way, nice job
Thanks John ! I got the arch by first making the scroll and then putting it in the ring roller I built. I ran it back and forth tighting the roller with each pass until I got the curve I needed.
You'll enjoy the bender and scroller. It's a little bit of money well spent.
rusted
04-01-2004, 10:24 AM
That's very nice. Something like that will be in my future if I can manage that kind of craftsmanship.
jniolon
04-01-2004, 01:09 PM
Jim
really nice work... especially like how you blended in at the bottom of the heart... nothing like a welder and a flap disk, eh ??
oh and BTW don't use handcuffs... old silk neckties are better and leave no marks on tie point or tieie
john
Jim314
04-01-2004, 01:24 PM
Thanks guys, and thanks for the tip john. I'd hate to mar a nice finish :)
Very nice! Showed my wife and she really likes it.
Could you post a pic or two of your homemade roll bender? I am working on mine right now and would be interested in what approach you took building yours.
Thanks
Steve
Jim314
04-01-2004, 06:43 PM
Steve, here's a link:
http://www.weldingweb.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=505&highlight=roller
hoagy_econo
04-03-2004, 06:45 PM
Jim,
What determines the angle that you mounted the drive roller, with respect to the two bottom fixed rollers. It does not appear to be 90 degrees, but a little off the perpendicular. What is the reason that this needs to be at that angle, and NOT at 90 degrees?
Sorry for the questions, but I'm just trying to understand the design.
Great craftsmanship, Jim !!
Jim Martin
Jim314
04-03-2004, 08:01 PM
I actually don't remember why I did that. It was a trial and error project, so it was probably just a screw up. If I did it for a reason, I don't remember it now and there's really no reason to do it that way. Perpendicular would be fine. The main thing to consider is to be able to get the drive roller high enough when loose to get your ring, or curve, out after you finished. Mine won't raise high enough on small rings, so I have to unbolt the arms of the drive roller to get them out. But they're just finger tight, so it's no big deal.
Jim314
04-03-2004, 08:09 PM
Damn, I just remembered why I had to do that. It wasn't a screw up, it was because of a screw up. I had to have it at that angle because the arms of the drive roller would hit the C channel that held the bottom roller if it wasn't at that angle. I knew I had probably screwed up somewhere, just couldn't remember where :)
nice looking bed,good job there! im getting my bender with scroll atachment this sunday! Had it on my fathersday list of wants,but this way im sure to get it!! :)
I got my bender and scroller from harbor fright today! all there,all holes line up,looks like it will do the job!!!
Jim314
04-14-2004, 01:46 PM
The headboard and footboard are finished and have a coat of primer. Here's the footboard.
Looks good Jim. Just curious, especially since it turned out so nice, why didn't you powder coat it?
Jim314
04-14-2004, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by sb62
Looks good Jim. Just curious, especially since it turned out so nice, why didn't you powder coat it?
I'm too cheap :D
Hay jim post a pic of it put togather when ur done! Sure would like to see it.
SlagKing
04-22-2004, 10:01 AM
Nice Jim, What color will you use for the finish?
Jim314
04-22-2004, 09:18 PM
Thanks guys and also thanks to everyone else that has commented. The comments, good or bad, although good are best, are the reason I and others post pics of the there projects. I got the bed painted last weekend and set up tonight.
Tom, I used Rustoleum hammered bronze.
Jim314
04-22-2004, 09:20 PM
Just one more..........
TheFrenchCanadian
04-22-2004, 10:53 PM
Looks great Jim!! I may use yours as an example and try to build one for our spare room, if you don't mind.
What did you use on the top of the bedposts? Some kind of pre-made steel globes?
Luc
Jim314
04-22-2004, 10:57 PM
Thanks Luc. Please make one and post the pics. They are 5" balls from king metals. I realized after I ordered them I could have ordered the hemospheres and welded them together for half the price. Live and learn.
Uh Oh...Sombody forgot to put his boots away!! NO WELD FOR YOU...ONE WEEK!!!
Looks great Jim.
Is your wife a quilter too?? Poor guy. I just layed out about 7k on a new sewing/embroidery machine and assorted essentials. Couldn't believe it, the damn thing hooks up to her lap top!
Steve
Good looking bed jim' u really done a good job!did u weld the side rails or bolt them?
Jim314
04-23-2004, 08:32 AM
Yeah Steve, I noticed the boots after posting the picture :)
7018, the rails are bolted on. This is a picture of the first bed I built, but the rails are built the same.
SlagKing
04-23-2004, 11:42 AM
Wonderful work! One of the best I have seen!
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