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  1. #51
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    Re: We Need An SA-200 Info/FAQ Sticky

    Hey Just thought I would pass along a little info, Bills Welder Repair told me last week when I called that if I was going to fire up a SA 200 that had been sitting to take the cover from around the windings and clean out the rats nest in there before I start it. I don't know how she knew but there was one in there, exactly where she said. Saved me alot of trouble.

    Just a note that the Autolite 386 plugs that someone posted about are acceptable if you are running a Dist. on your machine. Mine has a Mag. so she said that I need the D16 Champions. Last she said that they are gapped .030" I gapped mine .025" like lincoln said.

    Hope this helps, lots of great info in this sticky!

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    Re: We Need An SA-200 Info/FAQ Sticky

    Hey does anyone have the part numbers for the hose between the carb and oil bath air filter. I seem to have ruined mine and was thinking that it looks like something I could get a t NAPA.
    Clay

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    Re: We Need An SA-200 Info/FAQ Sticky

    In addition to the parts kd5inm posted, I found these for the Hercules IXB5:

    Fel-Pro 7557S Head gasket
    Fel-Pro MS8355B Exhaust-Intake manifold gasket set
    RD

    1984 Chevrolet C30 welding truck
    1966 Lincoln SA200 Continental F162
    1942 Lincoln SA200 Hercules IXB-5
    1991 Lincoln LN25

  4. #54
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    Carquest carb kit for Marvel Schebler TSX 514 carb (from a 1963 SA 200): 1302
    Carquest spin-on oil filter for F-163 (NAPA 1050 equivalent): 85050
    Applied Fabrications, LLC

    Mobile Welding / Mechanical Repair in VA's Piedmont & Shenandoah Valley

  5. #55
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    Re: We Need An SA-200 Info/FAQ Sticky

    What are some of these old red face Lincolns worth? I know the condition will affect the value but just generaly speaking are they worth much. And are the red faced f162 and short hood models worth more?

  6. #56
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    Re: We Need An SA-200 Info/FAQ Sticky

    Hey guys, This is a great thread. Very helpful! Does anyone have the Felpro part number for the "head gasket set" or "top end gasket set" for the F162 F163? Thanks J. Stewart

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    If you order the Hybriweld dry air cleaner system to replace your oil bath air cleaner, and you have a Marvel-Schebler carburetor, you'll also need to find separately a reducer hose, from the 1.75" air cleaner to the 1.5" carb inlet. I found one on ebay for $9.00 shipped just now.

    Hybriweld ships the kit with a straight 1.75" hose, which I guess must work with the Zenith carbs.

    Joestewart, the only Fel-Pro P/N I have is for the complete gasket kit, which is FS 7183 PT.
    Applied Fabrications, LLC

    Mobile Welding / Mechanical Repair in VA's Piedmont & Shenandoah Valley

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    Re: We Need An SA-200 Info/FAQ Sticky

    walker brand carb kit for the Marvel carb is 778505

  10. #60
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    F162 drop in oil filter Wix # C3P...post # 15 in the following thread.
    http://weldingweb.com/showthread.php?t=42813
    Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught will we realize we cannot eat money.
    -Cree Indian Proverb

    SA 200 Lincoln
    Victor Torches

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    Re: We Need An SA-200 Info/FAQ Sticky

    Quote Originally Posted by boilermaker View Post
    oh by the way auto lite spark plugs work pretty well , not every one carrys them but they can be had .
    My old sa200 had what I thought was a magneto problem, so I put the coil and ballest off a isuzu motor and ran it for a year till one day, for no apperant reason, I reconnected the mag and guess what? It works now. hmmmm?
    Sweetest arc burning!

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    Re: We Need An SA-200 Info/FAQ Sticky

    These parts should be availible at any decent parts house (Carquest, Napa, any old Mom 'n Pop type store), or they can usually order them:

    Gates/Carquest TR22455, V belt for older SA200's with a 12 volt generator. You can also use a TR22461 if you're in a bind, you won't have much adjustment left on it though.
    Standard Ignition/Carquest S10-478, point set for Fairbanks-Morse magnetos
    Standard Ignition/Carquest S6-138, condenser for Fairbanks-Morse magnetos
    RD

    1984 Chevrolet C30 welding truck
    1966 Lincoln SA200 Continental F162
    1942 Lincoln SA200 Hercules IXB-5
    1991 Lincoln LN25

  13. #63
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    Re: We Need An SA-200 Info/FAQ Sticky

    www.stumpfweldingsupplies.com has the gaskets and assorted other parts listed with pretty decent prices

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    Re: We Need An SA-200 Info/FAQ Sticky

    Weldmart says time the 162/162 with a vacum guage, heres the link
    http://weldmart.com/technical/Continentaltiming.html
    "Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum"

    Lincoln Ideal Arc 250 AC/DC, Miller 300 Syncrowave, Millermatic 251, 30A spool gun, Lincoln MP 210, (2) Lincoln Weldanpower 225 CV, Few SA 200's, SAM 400, OA Torch, Portaband,
    14 ft Enclosed trailer

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    CV adapter is Lincoln K384, code #8963 here is the owners manual and instructions for install and testing.
    http://www.lincolnelectric.com/asset...oln3/im309.pdf
    "Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum"

    Lincoln Ideal Arc 250 AC/DC, Miller 300 Syncrowave, Millermatic 251, 30A spool gun, Lincoln MP 210, (2) Lincoln Weldanpower 225 CV, Few SA 200's, SAM 400, OA Torch, Portaband,
    14 ft Enclosed trailer

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    Re: We Need An SA-200 Info/FAQ Sticky

    Read the following, Continental 162/163 may use 2 different ring gears and therefore need 2 different starters.
    119 T Ring gear meshes with a 10 T starter
    96 T Ring gear meshes with a 9 T starter.
    "Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum"

    Lincoln Ideal Arc 250 AC/DC, Miller 300 Syncrowave, Millermatic 251, 30A spool gun, Lincoln MP 210, (2) Lincoln Weldanpower 225 CV, Few SA 200's, SAM 400, OA Torch, Portaband,
    14 ft Enclosed trailer

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    Radiator cap, Murray 7007 for 5 bucks and O'reilly's
    http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/de...p?keyword=7007
    "Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum"

    Lincoln Ideal Arc 250 AC/DC, Miller 300 Syncrowave, Millermatic 251, 30A spool gun, Lincoln MP 210, (2) Lincoln Weldanpower 225 CV, Few SA 200's, SAM 400, OA Torch, Portaband,
    14 ft Enclosed trailer

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    Re: We Need An SA-200 Info/FAQ Sticky

    Magneto Wire Set- Napa part # 700172

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    Re: We Need An SA-200 Info/FAQ Sticky

    Some starter info that pertains to my 81 SA200,

    Delco Remy starter 1109437 Solenoid NAPA/ Echlin # ST124 Starter drive and clutch Delco Remy # 204 9 tooth 1" diameter O.D. gear, gear length .550", 2.970 overall length, .755 I.D. 3 spline spiral
    Pulley for activator is 1.960 O.D. and gear and clutch I.D. is .470. Clutch is 5 roller and stamped SU.
    My machine is an 81 and has a 133Tooth ring gear
    Local starter rebuilder says this can be found on some older GM, not sure which.
    "Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum"

    Lincoln Ideal Arc 250 AC/DC, Miller 300 Syncrowave, Millermatic 251, 30A spool gun, Lincoln MP 210, (2) Lincoln Weldanpower 225 CV, Few SA 200's, SAM 400, OA Torch, Portaband,
    14 ft Enclosed trailer

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    Thermostat, 180 deg. NAPA 530080
    "Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum"

    Lincoln Ideal Arc 250 AC/DC, Miller 300 Syncrowave, Millermatic 251, 30A spool gun, Lincoln MP 210, (2) Lincoln Weldanpower 225 CV, Few SA 200's, SAM 400, OA Torch, Portaband,
    14 ft Enclosed trailer

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    Re: We Need An SA-200 Info/FAQ Sticky

    PAINT CODES

    Dupont paint codes for lincoln engine drives are:

    pre 1991: 6334

    1991 - approx. 1997: 45832

    1997 to present: B8012
    1960 Redface SA-200 F 162
    1973 Black face SA-200 F 163 with 5" chop
    2013 Miller Trailblazer 275
    2013 GMC 3500 welding car

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    Re: We Need An SA-200 Info/FAQ Sticky

    Gaskets, Cont. F-163:

    Gasket, Cylinder head - Felpro 7183 PT
    Gasket, Intake manifold - McCord MS-2548
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    Gasket, Carburetor mounting....... Taco Bell 12-PK
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    FRONT SEAL REPLACEMENT TIPS

    When changing the front seal, I use an impact with a 1 1/2'' socket. Remove the battery, (some machines the original hand crank bracket has to be removed ) then with a 7" extension on the impact remove the bolt holding the front pulley. It's a little tight but you dont have to remove the radiator or the sheet metal.
    I like to use a speedy sleeve on the snout of the pulley to correct the worn grove . I've added some part numbers. Look on www.rockauto.com they are very good priced I order from them regularly, just put the part number in the part number search box.

    Front seal National 8650s
    Speedy Sleeve National 99212
    1960 Redface SA-200 F 162
    1973 Black face SA-200 F 163 with 5" chop
    2013 Miller Trailblazer 275
    2013 GMC 3500 welding car

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    Re: We Need An SA-200 Info/FAQ Sticky

    Carburetor tag data, from late ‘70s F-163 with Marvel Schebler carburetor:

    MARVEL SCHEBLER
    TSX-979
    M-12484-2
    79


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    Part number for a gm one wire alternator from rockauto.com $37 + shipping direct bolt on replacement.

    PURE ENERGY Part # 7127103
    1973 Lincoln SA 200, Already replaced shunt coils, Idle board (SOLD)
    1984 Miller Dialarc 250HF, Miller water cooler, 250 AMP water cooled torch, you know the worx.

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