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    "The parole board, however, has continually refused him early release - saying he has shown no remorse and would continue to pose a danger to any other burglars."

    Um yeah, they're upset about burglars being in danger???? Sounds like where this country is heading....the criminals have more rights than the law abiding citizenry....

    In the 1800s people killed each other with six shooters before that, black powder revolvers like the colt peacemaker, no high capacity clips were needed...

    Anyway our country is goin down the road of england, and other much worse police state countries...

    Think about the feds, meaning the federal reserve central bank, when JFK tried to shut them down he was killed, they control the rise and fall of the economy by the printing of currency, the best thing they could do for themselves is start a war.... that way the US needs to borrow money...

    I don't believe any of this is happening by mistake, I don't think Obama is necessarily doing it on purpose, bit there is someone somewhere orchestrating the fall if the US economy...

    You hear leaders around the world talking of a worldwide gowernment "new world order" etc etc that's where were heading and there's nothing we can do to stop it,

    There is no country which had a fiat currency (currency based on debt) that has ever avoided an economic collapse....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markcuda View Post
    Come on peeps, chime in and defend your piece a sh it guy.OLOLOLLOOLOLLO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluewelders View Post
    The problem is partially that they make their own rules.
    So
    How about making all of their records public to get elected.
    How about if they could not engage in lobbying until they were out of office,for the amount of time they were in.
    It would be nice if the politicians pay was locked at whatever it was when they went into office
    How about make all of the politicians pay taxes for life, at whatever the highest rate is with no deductions.
    Only organizations that have to pay taxes would be allowed to donate money for elections.
    Any other ideas to bring them down to earth.
    Add another one to this list.
    Only tax payers can vote.
    Those on tax payer assistance cannot vote.

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    Came across this in the New Yorker online today...
    Made me laugh

    Republicans Accuse Obama of Using Position as President to Lead Country
    Posted by Andy Borowitz

    obama-desk-465.jpg

    WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—Responding to reports that President Obama is considering signing as many as nineteen executive orders on gun control, Republicans in Congress unleashed a blistering attack on him today, accusing Mr. Obama of “cynically and systematically using his position as President to lead the country.”

    Spearheading the offensive was Rep. Steve Stockman (R-Texas), who charged the President with the “wanton exploitation of powers that are legally granted to him under the U.S. Constitution.”

    Calling him the “Law Professor-in-Chief,” Rep. Stockman accused Mr. Obama of “manipulating a little-known section of the Constitution,” Article II, which outlines the power of the President.

    “President Obama looks down the list of all of the powers that are legally his and he’s like a kid in a candy store,” Rep. Stockman said. “It’s nauseating.”

    The Texas congressman said that if Mr. Obama persists in executing the office of the Presidency as defined by the Constitution, he could face “impeachment and/or deportation.”

    Noting that the President has not yet signed the executive orders on gun control, Rep. Stockman said that he hoped his stern words would serve as a wake-up call to Mr. Obama: “Mr. President, there’s still time for you to get in line. But if you continue to fulfill the duties of President of the United States that are expressly permitted in the Constitution, you are playing with fire.”
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    So I just skimmed though this thread and wanted to post this link https://www.facebook.com/govgaryjohnson Because electing a Republican won't change anything except shifting where some of our tax money goes..
    Real Change is only going to come from changing the system as we know it! Not going to happen with ANY Democrat or Republican President EVER!

    Gary Johnson was the only Candidate on enough state ballots last election with a legitimate plan to rein in government, and our debt to get us back in line with the constitution..


    For example, The constitution does not say we are to borrow billions of dollars from other countries then GIVE that borrowed money as aid to other countries or play world policeman at out expense!
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    Your right DJ
    And Term limits on all congressmen is the other thing to get these entrenched getting richer off the tax payer a** holes out of power

    That's a place to start
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    Some interesting gun facts! Please keep in mind that statistics can be shown one way or the other to further a political agenda!

    According to the National Self Defense Survey conducted by Florida State University criminologists in 1994, the rate of Defensive Gun Uses can be projected nationwide to approximately 2.5 million per year -- one Defensive Gun Use every 13 seconds.
    Among 15.7% of gun defenders interviewed nationwide during The National Self Defense Survey, the defender believed that someone "almost certainly" would have died had the gun not been used for protection -- a life saved by a privately held gun about once every 1.3 minutes. (In another 14.2% cases, the defender believed someone "probably" would have died if the gun hadn't been used in defense.)

    In 83.5% of these successful gun defenses, the attacker either threatened or used force first -- disproving the myth that having a gun available for defense wouldn't make any difference.

    In 91.7% of these incidents the defensive use of a gun did not wound or kill the criminal attacker (and the gun defense wouldn't be called "newsworthy" by newspaper or TV news editors). In 64.2% of these gun-defense cases, the police learned of the defense, which means that the media could also find out and report on them if they chose to.

    In 73.4% of these gun-defense incidents, the attacker was a stranger to the intended victim. (Defenses against a family member or intimate were rare -- well under 10%.) This disproves the myth that a gun kept for defense will most likely be used against a family member or someone you love.

    In over half of these gun defense incidents, the defender was facing two or more attackers -- and three or more attackers in over a quarter of these cases. (No means of defense other than a firearm -- martial arts, pepper spray, or stun guns -- gives a potential victim a decent chance of getting away uninjured when facing multiple attackers.)

    In 79.7% of these gun defenses, the defender used a concealable handgun. A quarter of the gun defenses occured in places away from the defender's home.

    Source: "Armed Resistance to Crime: The Prevalence and Nature of Self-Defense with a Gun," by Gary Kleck and Marc Gertz, in The Journal of Criminal Law & Criminology, Northwestern University School of Law, Volume 86, Number 1, Fall, 1995

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    Good to see you have not lost your edge there F.B.....
    I was starting to wonder where you were...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Bastard View Post
    Some interesting gun facts! Please keep in mind that statistics can be shown one way or the other to further a political agenda!

    According to the National Self Defense Survey conducted by Florida State University criminologists in 1994, the rate of Defensive Gun Uses can be projected nationwide to approximately 2.5 million per year -- one Defensive Gun Use every 13 seconds.
    Among 15.7% of gun defenders interviewed nationwide during The National Self Defense Survey, the defender believed that someone "almost certainly" would have died had the gun not been used for protection -- a life saved by a privately held gun about once every 1.3 minutes. (In another 14.2% cases, the defender believed someone "probably" would have died if the gun hadn't been used in defense.)

    In 83.5% of these successful gun defenses, the attacker either threatened or used force first -- disproving the myth that having a gun available for defense wouldn't make any difference.

    In 91.7% of these incidents the defensive use of a gun did not wound or kill the criminal attacker (and the gun defense wouldn't be called "newsworthy" by newspaper or TV news editors). In 64.2% of these gun-defense cases, the police learned of the defense, which means that the media could also find out and report on them if they chose to.

    In 73.4% of these gun-defense incidents, the attacker was a stranger to the intended victim. (Defenses against a family member or intimate were rare -- well under 10%.) This disproves the myth that a gun kept for defense will most likely be used against a family member or someone you love.

    In over half of these gun defense incidents, the defender was facing two or more attackers -- and three or more attackers in over a quarter of these cases. (No means of defense other than a firearm -- martial arts, pepper spray, or stun guns -- gives a potential victim a decent chance of getting away uninjured when facing multiple attackers.)

    In 79.7% of these gun defenses, the defender used a concealable handgun. A quarter of the gun defenses occured in places away from the defender's home.

    Source: "Armed Resistance to Crime: The Prevalence and Nature of Self-Defense with a Gun," by Gary Kleck and Marc Gertz, in The Journal of Criminal Law & Criminology, Northwestern University School of Law, Volume 86, Number 1, Fall, 1995
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    Hi guys, just wanted to make sure a week didn't go by without an official
    "Obama Sucks" post.
    Yep, the tyrant & his band of flying sh!t monkeys are still dancing on the head of a pin..
    2% more to FICA,
    3.5% more on my elec. bill.
    1.8% added to my cable bill..
    Yah, no new taxes for the broke folks...
    That's all I've noticed so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WeldingMachine View Post
    Hi guys, just wanted to make sure a week didn't go by without an official
    "Obama Sucks" post.
    Yep, the tyrant & his band of flying sh!t monkeys are still dancing on the head of a pin..
    2% more to FICA,
    3.5% more on my elec. bill.
    1.8% added to my cable bill..
    Yah, no new taxes for the broke folks...
    That's all I've noticed so far.
    That's nothing..
    Good thing you don't live down here..

    Our Gov. is a spendaholic...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zapster View Post
    That's nothing..
    Good thing you don't live down here..

    Our Gov. is a spendaholic...

    ...zap!
    I live in the peoples republic of kalifornia

    Everything went up up up ..but wages if you can get a job
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    Shoot that fly please. Damn thing is bothering me.

    Get that .223 fly swatter.






    Just kidding I don't kill unless I have no other choice. I just open the door and shoo the pests outside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Payrion View Post
    Im sure if i read it from your side it will not be enough, if i read from my side, its enough... Bottom line.,....99.999% of the people on this forum will NOT see a tax increase...

    if we taxed every dollar over $200k. at 100%. we would still run a tax deficit.

    we have a spending problem not a revenue problem.

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    But Congress can't cure itself of spendthrift-itis.

    How else would they buy votes?

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    Divorce agreement

    I think it's time for a Divorce!!!!!

    Since we are not going to get gasoline back to $1.50 per gallon and coffee to $2.00 per pound maybe this would be a solution we could live with.
    DIVORCE AGREEMENT -- This is so incredibly well-put, and I can hardly believe it's by a young person, a student!! Whatever he runs for, I'll vote for him!
    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
    Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, regressive, Marxists, and Obama supporters, et al:

    We have stuck together since the late 1950s for the sake of the kids, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly, this relationship has clearly run its course.

    Our two ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on what is right for us all, so let's just end it on friendly terms. We can smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own way.

    Here is a model separation agreement:

    1. Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by land mass, each taking a similar portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that, it should be relatively easy. Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides had such distinct and disparate tastes.

    2. We don't like redistributive taxes, so you can keep them.

    3. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU.

    4. Since you hate guns and war, we'll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA, and the military.

    5. We'll take the nasty, smelly oil industry and you can go with wind, solar, and bio-diesel.

    6. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore, and Rosie O'Donnell. You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them.

    7. We'll keep capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart, and Wall Street.

    8. You can have your beloved lifelong welfare dwellers, food stamps, homeless homeboys, hippies, druggies, and illegal aliens.

    9. We'll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO's and rednecks.

    10. We'll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood ..

    11. You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we'll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us.

    12. You can have the peace-niks and war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we'll help provide them security.

    13. We'll keep our Judeo-Christian values.

    14. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism, political correctness, and Shirley McLain. You can also have the U.N., but we will no longer be paying the bill.

    15. We'll keep the SUV's, pickup trucks, and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru station wagon you can find.

    16. You can give everyone healthcare if you can find any practicing doctors..

    17. We'll continue to believe healthcare is an earned luxury and not a right.

    18. We'll keep "The Battle Hymn of the Republic" and "The National Anthem."

    19. I'm sure you'll be happy to substitute "Imagine", "I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing", "Kum Ba Ya," or "We Are the World".

    20. We'll practice trickledown economics and you can continue to give trickle up poverty your best shot.

    21. Since it often so offends you, we'll keep our history, our name and our constitution and our flag.

    22. Would you agree to this? If so, please pass it along to other like-minded liberal and conservative patriots and if you do not agree, just hit delete. In the spirit of friendly parting, I'll bet you answer which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.

    Sincerely,
    John J. Wall
    Law Student and an American

    P.S.: Also, please take Ted Turner, Sean Penn, Martin Sheen, Barbara Streisand, and Jane Fonda with you.

    P.S.S..: And you won't have to "Press 1 for English" when you call our country.


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    Sounds good to me!
    They can call it The Socialist States of Grand Disconnect!
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    Cuz all the sheeple that believe this is gonna fix **** are clueless. The 2 party system is broken. 2 sides of the same coin.. really wanna try fixing it then vote libertarian...
    And yes I will happily take Humanism and science over your imaginary friends. And the USA government is secular and not built on JudeoChristian Values FYI.
    Government has not reduced in size under any administration in over 50 yrs too...
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    Divorce agreement
    I think it's time for a Divorce!!!!!

    Since we are not going to get gasoline back to $1.50 per gallon and coffee to $2.00 per pound maybe this would be a solution we could live with.
    DIVORCE AGREEMENT -- This is so incredibly well-put, and I can hardly believe it's by a young person, a student!! Whatever he runs for, I'll vote for him!
    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
    Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, regressive, Marxists, and Obama supporters, et al:

    We have stuck together since the late 1950s for the sake of the kids, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly, this relationship has clearly run its course.

    Our two ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on what is right for us all, so let's just end it on friendly terms. We can smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own way.

    Here is a model separation agreement:

    1. Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by land mass, each taking a similar portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that, it should be relatively easy. Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides had such distinct and disparate tastes.

    2. We don't like redistributive taxes, so you can keep them.

    3. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU.

    4. Since you hate guns and war, we'll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA, and the military.

    5. We'll take the nasty, smelly oil industry and you can go with wind, solar, and bio-diesel.

    6. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore, and Rosie O'Donnell. You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them.

    7. We'll keep capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart, and Wall Street.

    8. You can have your beloved lifelong welfare dwellers, food stamps, homeless homeboys, hippies, druggies, and illegal aliens.

    9. We'll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO's and rednecks.

    10. We'll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood ..

    11. You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we'll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us.

    12. You can have the peace-niks and war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we'll help provide them security.

    13. We'll keep our Judeo-Christian values.

    14. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism, political correctness, and Shirley McLain. You can also have the U.N., but we will no longer be paying the bill.

    15. We'll keep the SUV's, pickup trucks, and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru station wagon you can find.

    16. You can give everyone healthcare if you can find any practicing doctors..

    17. We'll continue to believe healthcare is an earned luxury and not a right.

    18. We'll keep "The Battle Hymn of the Republic" and "The National Anthem."

    19. I'm sure you'll be happy to substitute "Imagine", "I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing", "Kum Ba Ya," or "We Are the World".

    20. We'll practice trickledown economics and you can continue to give trickle up poverty your best shot.

    21. Since it often so offends you, we'll keep our history, our name and our constitution and our flag.

    22. Would you agree to this? If so, please pass it along to other like-minded liberal and conservative patriots and if you do not agree, just hit delete. In the spirit of friendly parting, I'll bet you answer which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.

    Sincerely,
    John J. Wall
    Law Student and an American

    P.S.: Also, please take Ted Turner, Sean Penn, Martin Sheen, Barbara Streisand, and Jane Fonda with you.

    P.S.S..: And you won't have to "Press 1 for English" when you call our country.
    I guess this is what you get when you look at the world through rose colored glasses, with a narrow point of view and a small mind,
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    From http://hepzibahpyncheon.blogspot.com...proposal.html;

    Friday, February 27, 2009
    Letter to John J. Wall, Law Student and American
    I don’t know if this horrible screed crossed your path. It’s a letter, written allegedly by a law student “and an American.” If it did, it should have gone into your spam box. It’s from a site known as The Minuteman, which links you to Renew America, which links you to such things as Phyllis Schlafly telling us why Obama’s stimulus package is all wrong, how the courts killed Terri Schiavo, how the fall of Adam marked Western Civilization, no mention being made of the Enlightenment, etc. It comes in at least one variation.

    I don’t troll the John Birch sites or read Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkin, so I would never have seen it if it were not for a born-again member of my family who loves to bait me as much as I love being baited. I thank him for it.

    Here's the letter, titled Divorce Proposal, and signed "John J. Law, Law Student and an American" followed by my point-by-point response.

    Divorce Proposal

    We have stuck together since the late 1950's, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly, this relationship has run its course. Our two ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on what is right, so let's just end it on friendly terms. We can smile; slate it up to irreconcilable differences, and go on our own ways.

    Here is a model dissolution agreement:

    Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by landmass each taking a portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement.

    After that it should be relatively easy! Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes. We don't like re distributive taxes so you can keep them. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU.

    Since you hate guns and war, we'll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA, and the military. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore, and Rosie O'Donnell (you are however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move them).

    We'll keep the capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart, and Wall Street. You can have your beloved homeless, homeboys, hippies, and illegal aliens. We'll keep the hot Alaskan Hockey Moms, greedy CEO's, and Rednecks. We'll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood.

    You can make nice with Iran, Palestine , and France, and we'll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us. You can have the peaceniks and war protestors. When our allies or way of life are under assault, we'll provide them job security.

    We'll keep our Judeo-Christian Values. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism, and Shirley McClain. You can have the U.N. But we will no longer be paying the bill. We'll keep the SUV's, pickup trucks, and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru Station Wagon you can find.

    You can give everyone healthcare, if you can find any practicing Doctors (that is practicing, Howard Dean) who will follow you to your turf.

    We'll continue to believe healthcare is a luxury and not a right.

    We'll keep The Battle Hymn of the Republic and the National Anthem. I'm sure you'll be happy to substitute Imagine, I'd Like to Teach The World To Sing, Kum Ba Ya, or We Are the World.

    We'll practice trickle down economics, and you can give trickle up poverty its best shot.

    Since it often so offends you we'll keep our History, our Name, and our Flag.

    Would you agree to this? If so please pass it along to other likeminded patriots, and if you do not agree just hit delete and hang on.

    In the spirit of friendly parting, I'll bet you ANWAR on who will need whose help in 15 years.

    Sincerely,

    John J. Wall
    Law Student and an American

    P.S. Please take Barbra Streisand.


    Dear John:

    Thanks for your letter suggesting you conservatives and we lefties divorce and divide up the country. Let me take up your points (reproduced here in italics) one at a time:

    Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by landmass each taking a portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement.

    OK. We’ll take the East and West Coasts, the university towns, like Madison and Austin, Chicago, Colorado, Arizona and New Mexico – actually, come to think of it, no, you can’t have any part of my beautiful country. Let’s move on to the next point.

    After that it should be relatively easy! Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes. We don't like re distributive taxes so you can keep them. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU.

    Now you’re talking. You can have the portion of the country where people like yourself pay a third of your income while the fat cats pay less than 10%. Without your complicity, this wouldn’t work. Have at it. As for the ACLU, yes, we’ll take them. They are the folks pushing for an open trial for Omar Khadr, who was captured at 15 or 16, brought to Guantanamo and tortured, and has been there these past seven years slowly going mad, without ever being able to have access to a lawyer or his family. Yes, by all means give us the ACLU.

    Since you hate guns and war, we'll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA, and the military. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore, and Rosie O'Donnell (you are however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move them).

    You don’t hate war? Really? You can’t have the cops. We need them and the military to protect us from others who also don't hate war. But I won’t call them if you carry off the NRA. Let’s leave off the ad hominems.

    We'll keep the capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart, and Wall Street. You can have your beloved homeless, homeboys, hippies, and illegal aliens. We'll keep the hot Alaskan Hockey Moms, greedy CEO's, and Rednecks. We'll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood.

    We’ll both be keeping capitalism. You can have the greedy corporations; we’ll take the rest. You can have Wal-Mart, but you’re going to have to start paying health and retirement benefits Wal-Mart fails to pay its employees. We’re tired of your tapping into our tax money to do that. “Beloved homeless”? The folks your man Reagan tossed onto the streets way back when? We don’t always love them, but we’ll take them. When Christ comes to visit, I trust you understand he’ll be spending more time with us than with you. You want Sarah Palin? Good Lord, she’s yours! Greedy CEOs come with the greedy corporations which you’ve already spoken for. Rednecks? No, we’ll have to argue over them on a case by case basis. If it were up to me you could certainly have all the Bibles. Who do you know other than Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot who has done more harm than the folk who wave Bibles? Unfortunately, there are some on our side who actually read the Bible, and they insist just because you don’t understand it doesn’t mean you have a right to own it.

    You can make nice with Iran, Palestine, and France, and we'll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us. You can have the peaceniks and war protestors. When our allies or way of life are under assault, we'll provide them job security.

    Make nice with France? Now there’s a concept. Do you have the faintest idea what you are giving away? Crepes? Edith Piaf? The concept of human rights? Fois gras? Thank you, thank you, thank you. Read Reading Lolita in Teheran again before you give away Iran. You might have second thoughts. Palestine you don’t want to “make nice” with? Shall we go on for another fifty, sixty years like this, raising kids in refugee camps? Really? When our allies are under assault? We barely have allies anymore, thanks to your President Bush. I’ve been talking lately with people who keep track of Iraqi refugees. Did you know there are as many as five million displaced people in that country, including virtually the entire middle class? That the once well-educated populace is becoming one of the least well-educated – all thanks to your inclination to “invade and hammer” places that threaten us. Maybe if Iraq had actually threatened us, we’d have an argument here, but they never did. Unfortunately the educational level of the United States has sunk so low that we now have a critical mass of people who are willing to believe simply because the Iraqis shared a religious identity with the criminals from Saudi Arabia who hit the Twin Towers and the thugs working in Afghanistan and Pakistan (and not Iraq) who hid their leader, it’s OK to “invade and hammer” them.

    We'll keep our Judeo-Christian Values. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism, and Shirley McClain. You can have the U.N. But we will no longer be paying the bill. We'll keep the SUV's, pickup trucks, and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru Station Wagon you can find.

    Your Judeo-Christian Values. “Blessed are they who invade and hammer…"?

    You like your SUVs and oversized luxury cars? So do we, but are you really that clueless? Do you really not know what we’ve done to Planet Earth in recent years? Do you really not know how dire the problem is? Why is that? Do you not read?

    You can give everyone healthcare, if you can find any practicing Doctors (that is practicing, Howard Dean) who will follow you to your turf.
    We'll continue to believe healthcare is a luxury and not a right.

    Judeo-Christian values again. “Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these My brethren, ye have done it unto Me." Was it was Mohammad who said that? It really ought to be easier for me, who doesn’t live by the Bible, to throw the little people to the wolves. Why are our positions reversed on this? Next time you pray to Jesus, would you ask him to help me make the cut – which kids get medical attention, which kids get left out in the rain?

    We'll keep The Battle Hymn of the Republic and the National Anthem. I'm sure you'll be happy to substitute Imagine, I'd Like to Teach The World To Sing, Kum Ba Ya, or We Are the World.

    OK, you can have the Battle Hymn if you want it. We’ll share the National Anthem. Thanks for Imagine and those others. I don’t want them, but I know some who will appreciate them. None of them are “substitutes” for the National Anthem, though. We’ll really have to share that.

    We'll practice trickle down economics, and you can give trickle up poverty its best shot.

    It will give me no end of joy and fascination to watch you work your wonders with trickle down economics in this day and age. Lots of luck. We’ll be rooting for you.

    Since it often so offends you we'll keep our History, our Name, and our Flag.

    Good Lord, your history? Excuse me, History. You think History belongs to you? Are you on drugs? And the Flag (also capital F, I see.) No, you can’t have that. It’s our flag. Flag. We’ll even pay to have it cleaned, if you like. Somebody on your side smeared excrement all over it by torturing prisoners in our name. When it comes back clean, it will have to remain on our side, thanks all the same.

    Would you agree to this? If so please pass it along to other likeminded patriots, and if you do not agree just hit delete and hang on.

    In the spirit of friendly parting, I'll bet you ANWAR on who will need whose help in 15 years.

    Sincerely,

    John J. Wall
    Law Student and an American

    P.S. Please take Barbra Streisand.

    OK.

    Sincerely,


    Alan J. McCornick
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    I suppose liberals being parasites is Bush's fault too.
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    A video you should watch ...True American History forgotten
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    State of Delusion speech tonight!

    State of Delusion speech tonight!
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    That ole dog returning to his vomit again....I can wait.

    Since the lies are so blatant, can't we just end this? NOW?
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