I came across this forum while doing some research after seeing these machines on Ebay. I couldnt hardly believe that a machine could do what these claim to do at the price they are. After reading what many of you guys have said I figured I would take a chance on it. So I ordered one off ebay on Saturday afternoon. It got shipped out DHL on Monday and is supposed to be delivered today. I am gitty with excitement and have already picked up some steel to get started on the project I bought it for which is a winch bumper for a 87 blazer. It will probably take me a few weeks buy I will get some pictures of it at work.