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    New ESAB Heliarc 281i : 280A AC/DC Tig-stick

    Looks like ESAB beat miller to the 280A punch... Appears to be a lot of machine for $2900. My guess... assembled overseas.

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    Re: New ESAB Heliarc 281i : 280A AC/DC Tig-stick

    Highly cool. I wonder what miller will price theirs at.

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    Re: New ESAB Heliarc 281i : 280A AC/DC Tig-stick

    Quote Originally Posted by Drf255 View Post
    Highly cool. I wonder what miller will price theirs at.
    I'd guess $4000-4500.

    I was looking at the HTP and esab 2200, but I think I may opt for this new 281i and sell my heliarc 252
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    Re: New ESAB Heliarc 281i : 280A AC/DC Tig-stick

    Quote Originally Posted by BlauSchuh View Post
    I'd guess $4000-4500.

    I was looking at the HTP and esab 2200, but I think I may opt for this new 281i and sell my heliarc 252

    As far as I know, (From Esab Facebook site) The 281 is made in Poland. If it's built/works like my other polish Esab's,I think world beater for this thing!!
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    I have been impressed with all the ESAB stuff I have owned. This looks like a great machine. Interesting its 280 amps which is what the new Dynasty rumors have been saying the miller machine will be.
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    Re: New ESAB Heliarc 281i : 280A AC/DC Tig-stick

    Quote Originally Posted by soutthpaw View Post
    I have been impressed with all the ESAB stuff I have owned. This looks like a great machine. Interesting its 280 amps which is what the new Dynasty rumors have been saying the miller machine will be.
    Don't think the Dynasty will get anywhere close to the 250 amps 100% duty-cycle on single phase. Only saying because the Dynasty 350 on single phase is something like 225 amps at 60%
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    Re: New ESAB Heliarc 281i : 280A AC/DC Tig-stick

    The Dynasty 280 is supposed to weigh 58 pounds. The 281i is 110 pounds. Interesting.
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    Re: New ESAB Heliarc 281i : 280A AC/DC Tig-stick

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldendum View Post
    The Dynasty 280 is supposed to weigh 58 pounds. The 281i is 110 pounds. Interesting.
    Interesting, the Arcmaster 300 is 53 pounds. You are generally going to hook one to a water cooler, so the weight is a non-issue for most things. Not all though.. Portable trans shop work, and things like that will favor the lighter units. Heavy (quality fans like in my Esab cutter) cooling fans and heat sinks will favor a more shop type machine. Like this really nice fan setup. Di cast aluminum, etc.. Put nice stuff in them..
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    Re: New ESAB Heliarc 281i : 280A AC/DC Tig-stick

    Quote Originally Posted by Brand X View Post
    As far as I know, (From Esab Facebook site) The 281 is made in Poland. If it's built/works like my other polish Esab's,I think world beater for this thing!!
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    Yeah I think this will be on the top of my wish list too.
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    Re: New ESAB Heliarc 281i : 280A AC/DC Tig-stick

    I expect ESAB to get more aggressive in the marketplace since they were bought by Colfax Corporation. The folks behind Colfax are the Rales brothers. Same guys behind Danaher. They are billionaire empire builders.
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    Re: New ESAB Heliarc 281i : 280A AC/DC Tig-stick

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldendum View Post
    I expect ESAB to get more aggressive in the marketplace since they were bought by Colfax Corporation. The folks behind Colfax are the Rales brothers. Same guys behind Danaher. They are billionaire empire builders.
    I think I will keep just my Thermal 186, and just buy some Colfax stock...
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    Re: New ESAB Heliarc 281i : 280A AC/DC Tig-stick

    Quote Originally Posted by Brand X View Post
    I think I will keep just my Thermal 186
    I wouldn't be willing to bet on that.
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    Re: New ESAB Heliarc 281i : 280A AC/DC Tig-stick

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    I wouldn't be willing to bet on that.
    I was looking at some flowers in our yard the other day. Purple-pink and yellow actually do go together in an odd way.
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    Re: New ESAB Heliarc 281i : 280A AC/DC Tig-stick

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    I wouldn't be willing to bet on that.
    I can't help these guys want my welding machine more then I do.. I was super happy with my 252, even after all the great ac/dc inverters I have owned. I did want the space, and I'm happy with the 200 amp machine.. I just really never weld much over .250 with tig, so the smaller machine works well for me..

    It does look like the Esab 281i would fit on my cart though..
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    Re: New ESAB Heliarc 281i : 280A AC/DC Tig-stick

    Maybe there will be a price drop on the 2200i. I don't understand the pricing scheme... I see the caddy tig listed for sale between $2800 and $3000. Then this new model shows up with 280 amps and is around the same money.

    The 2200 seems to have more/finer pulse controls.
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    Re: New ESAB Heliarc 281i : 280A AC/DC Tig-stick

    Quote Originally Posted by BlauSchuh View Post
    Maybe there will be a price drop on the 2200i. I don't understand the pricing scheme... I see the caddy tig listed for sale between $2800 and $3000. Then this new model shows up with 280 amps and is around the same money.

    The 2200 seems to have more/finer pulse controls.
    Where did you see the 2200i priced at $2800 ? I've been seeing the more expensive than the Dynasty.
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    Re: New ESAB Heliarc 281i : 280A AC/DC Tig-stick

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky#1 View Post
    Where did you see the 2200i priced at $2800 ? I've been seeing the more expensive than the Dynasty.
    The base 2200i box with the TA34 controls is < $3000. I think Baker's might have had it for $28xx.

    Of course, that price doesn't include, torch, uber expensive pedal, watercooler and misc stuff.... with all of that it's ~$3700
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    Re: New ESAB Heliarc 281i : 280A AC/DC Tig-stick

    Quote Originally Posted by BlauSchuh View Post

    The 2200 seems to have more/finer pulse controls.
    on DC only, and not AC like the new machine.. This new one uses the standard Esab 14 pin,made by SSC controls


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    Re: New ESAB Heliarc 281i : 280A AC/DC Tig-stick

    Quote Originally Posted by Brand X View Post
    on DC only, and not AC like the new machine.. This new one uses the standard Esab 14 pin,made by SSC controls


    http://www.esabna.com/heliarc/features.cfm?ipCC=EN
    I was referring to the caddy tig CAN bus pedal, but that's welcome news on the 281i. The ssc pedal i bought for my heliarc 252 would work.
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    Re: New ESAB Heliarc 281i : 280A AC/DC Tig-stick

    Quote Originally Posted by BlauSchuh View Post
    I was referring to the caddy tig CAN bus pedal, but that's welcome news on the 281i. The ssc pedal i bought for my heliarc 252 would work.
    From another site... The facebook post( Esab) was wrong. It's made in Italy.

    Thank you for your recent information request on the Heliarc 281i. The power supply for the Heliarc 281i is made in Italy. It is then assembled in the USA with additional parts i.e regular and tig torch that are manufactured in the USA as well. If you have any additional questions please let me know.


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    Re: New ESAB Heliarc 281i : 280A AC/DC Tig-stick

    I was looking for it on the usual welding gear web sites, but I guess it is so new that it has not made it there yet.

    Looks fabulous to me, about the same price as my Syncrowave 200, but lighter, smaller, more features, and more powerful. A Dynasty 200 would not be a big enough upgrade to be worth the thousands of dollars it would cost me, especially since I rarely weld aluminum. The 281i would be a big upgrade in my eyes, if only for the power increase. The Dynasty 350 has huge derating on single phase. Plus the price beats the Dynasty.

    I don't care if it is 110 pounds, since I don't weld outside my shop.

    Probably moot for me, in that I have a greater need to upgrade my MIG than my TIG.

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    I don't think miller will even get remotely close to ESAB Duty cycles either.
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    Re: New ESAB Heliarc 281i : 280A AC/DC Tig-stick

    Quote Originally Posted by soutthpaw View Post
    I don't think miller will even get remotely close to ESAB Duty cycles either.
    Bolt those components to heat sinks the size of a battleship, add six fans ...
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    Re: New ESAB Heliarc 281i : 280A AC/DC Tig-stick

    Awesome on paper. What I find really attractive is I can run off of a 240v 50amp circuit.
    I'm curious where you guys are finding pricing. I called ESAB and these kits are pretty expensive.
    The 0558101709 package with cart, watercooler, and all the accessories retail pricing is $6416.50 I do like the cart with integrated water cooler drawer slide. Nice design. I want one! Don't actually need it, just really want it.
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