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    Can you identify this welder? Need the right connector...

    Hello everyone! I'm new on the forum and just purchased my first welder. I've been using my brother's Lincoln AC225 welder for a while to fix things around the farm and to make reactive targets for our gun club. I found this machine locally and couldn't pass the price but I don't know what to use for the leads. The connections are slightly smaller than the Tweco connectors I have and don't appear to have a twist/lock built in.

    What I know:

    AC 220v welder, 50a plug
    25-295 amp continuous (high/low)

    It has a unique selector dial. You pull up on a rod to change the dial and push it down to lock the setting.

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    Thanks guys! I hope to be burning rod soon and will post pictures of my latest project...

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    Re: Can you identify this welder? Need the right connector...

    yes it a welder

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    Re: Can you identify this welder? Need the right connector...

    Quote Originally Posted by ed mac View Post
    yes it a welder

    Sweet!



    My last one turned out to be a washing machine.


    JOEatleastthesteelwascleanSMITH

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Smith View Post
    Hello everyone! I'm new on the forum and just purchased my first welder. I've been using my brother's Lincoln AC225 welder for a while to fix things around the farm and to make reactive targets for our gun club. I found this machine locally and couldn't pass the price but I don't know what to use for the leads. The connections are slightly smaller than the Tweco connectors I have and don't appear to have a twist/lock built in.

    What I know:

    AC 220v welder, 50a plug
    25-295 amp continuous (high/low)

    It has a unique selector dial. You pull up on a rod to change the dial and push it down to lock the setting.

    Pictures:







    Thanks guys! I hope to be burning rod soon and will post pictures of my latest project...


    Ok...This is what will most likely work.

    Get a couple of Miller pin style connectors at your LWS. They may even have them in stock. (#039 901 for black colored sleeve, #039608 for red) Those should work for that style connection.

    The pic below shows a set of them on short leads with Tweco style connectors.

    The Miller pin connectors are about $10-12 on average a piece.
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    Last edited by 7A749; 05-28-2009 at 09:56 PM.
    Miller Maxtron 450 W/
    Miller S 54D Feeder
    Miller Load Bank
    Miller Trailblazer 302
    Miller 375 Extreme Plasma
    Miller Dynasty 350
    Lincoln SAE 175
    Lincoln LN 25

    More Crap Than I Need And No Place To Put It!

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    Re: Can you identify this welder? Need the right connector...

    Looks like a "solar" same as Century.. They made a 295 amp machine like that. The same connectors were used on the older miller dialarcs as well...
    I'm a Lover, Fighter, Wild horse Rider, and a pretty good welding man......

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    Re: Can you identify this welder? Need the right connector...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hammack_Welding View Post
    The same connectors were used on the older miller dialarcs as well...
    Yeppers...

    Those be the ones. Dewayne's Roughneck, as well as the older Thunderbolts & AEAD 200 LE's also used them. I made up a set of pony leads with them for that once in awhile machine that I need to connect to my Load Bank.

    Fits the bill for me anyways!
    Miller Maxtron 450 W/
    Miller S 54D Feeder
    Miller Load Bank
    Miller Trailblazer 302
    Miller 375 Extreme Plasma
    Miller Dynasty 350
    Lincoln SAE 175
    Lincoln LN 25

    More Crap Than I Need And No Place To Put It!

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    Re: Can you identify this welder? Need the right connector...

    Quote Originally Posted by 7A749 View Post
    Yeppers...

    Those be the ones. Dewayne's Roughneck, as well as the older Thunderbolts & AEAD 200 LE's also used them. I made up a set of pony leads with them for that once in awhile machine that I need to connect to my Load Bank.

    Fits the bill for me anyways!
    That is the same way I have my Dialarcs set up....
    I'm a Lover, Fighter, Wild horse Rider, and a pretty good welding man......

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    Re: Can you identify this welder? Need the right connector...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hammack_Welding View Post
    That is the same way I have my Dialarcs set up....
    It's the ONLY way to go. I have the exact same connections on my Load Bank, XMT, 30A Spoolgun & my TB 302 stick leads.

    You can switch out & exchange leads however you want & it's always the same connection. Feeders, TIG box, spoolgun, whatever. I throw a little anti seize on the contact ends once in awhile to keep the corrosion away.

    Good call on the brand of machine. I have never seen one like it.

    My guess was Monkey Wards. Had no clue who made it tho!
    Miller Maxtron 450 W/
    Miller S 54D Feeder
    Miller Load Bank
    Miller Trailblazer 302
    Miller 375 Extreme Plasma
    Miller Dynasty 350
    Lincoln SAE 175
    Lincoln LN 25

    More Crap Than I Need And No Place To Put It!

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    Re: Can you identify this welder? Need the right connector...

    Hammack pegged it. Those patent numbers reference Century Manufacturing.
    MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1
    Syncrowave 180SD
    Bobcat 225G Plus - LP/NG
    MUTT Suitcase Wirefeeder
    WC-1S/Spoolmatic 1
    HF-251D-1
    PakMaster 100XL
    SA-200 Blackface Code# 8638
    Star Jet 21-110

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    Thanks guys! I'll try to swing by the local shop this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duaneb55 View Post
    Hammack pegged it. Those patent numbers reference Century Manufacturing.
    I would figure you probably have one in your garage Duane......

    You got some goodies. That Airco Mig machine was a awesome find.
    Miller Maxtron 450 W/
    Miller S 54D Feeder
    Miller Load Bank
    Miller Trailblazer 302
    Miller 375 Extreme Plasma
    Miller Dynasty 350
    Lincoln SAE 175
    Lincoln LN 25

    More Crap Than I Need And No Place To Put It!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7A749 View Post
    I would figure you probably have one in your garage Duane......
    Not yet but I think they're breeding while I'm at work.
    MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1
    Syncrowave 180SD
    Bobcat 225G Plus - LP/NG
    MUTT Suitcase Wirefeeder
    WC-1S/Spoolmatic 1
    HF-251D-1
    PakMaster 100XL
    SA-200 Blackface Code# 8638
    Star Jet 21-110

    Two term limit - one in office, one in jail.

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    Re: Can you identify this welder? Need the right connector...

    Well I decided to clean up the rust on the case. Got out the sandpaper and spray paint. Well seeing as I can't leave well enough alone I now have it tore down, case is painted with some appliance epoxy, and I'm thinking what I want to do with the faceplate. It IS century, saw it through some of the rust. I think I am making out model 110-08, but that doesn't google and it's really hard to read through the rust.



    The transformer has a good bit of rust on it, is that going to hurt performance? I don't mind painting it if that won't make a difference. i have some hi-temp paint around here somewhere....



    Should be a good looking welder when I'm done with it.

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    Re: Can you identify this welder? Need the right connector...

    Quote Originally Posted by duaneb55 View Post
    Not yet but I think they're breeding while I'm at work.
    LMAO!!
    Miller Maxtron 450 W/
    Miller S 54D Feeder
    Miller Load Bank
    Miller Trailblazer 302
    Miller 375 Extreme Plasma
    Miller Dynasty 350
    Lincoln SAE 175
    Lincoln LN 25

    More Crap Than I Need And No Place To Put It!

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    Re: Can you identify this welder? Need the right connector...

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Smith View Post
    The transformer has a good bit of rust on it, is that going to hurt performance? I don't mind painting it if that won't make a difference. i have some hi-temp paint around here somewhere....
    NO PAINT! Holds in the heat. You can sand off some of the rust if you want to but it won't affect output performance the way it is.


    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Smith View Post
    Should be a good looking welder when I'm done with it.
    Looking forward to seeing some photos of the restored unit.
    MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1
    Syncrowave 180SD
    Bobcat 225G Plus - LP/NG
    MUTT Suitcase Wirefeeder
    WC-1S/Spoolmatic 1
    HF-251D-1
    PakMaster 100XL
    SA-200 Blackface Code# 8638
    Star Jet 21-110

    Two term limit - one in office, one in jail.

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    Re: Can you identify this welder? Need the right connector...

    Quote Originally Posted by duaneb55 View Post
    NO PAINT! Holds in the heat. You can sand off some of the rust if you want to but it won't affect output performance the way it is.



    Looking forward to seeing some photos of the restored unit.

    Than here is a teaser. Top and bottom cases


    . The white is appliance epoxy (great stuff) and the black on the top is a non-skid paint. Should keep my box of rods in place if I move the unit a bit. Once everything cures I'm going to look into bolting some wheels on the bottom while I have the chance then it's back together.


    I don't know what to do with the faceplate. I want to clean up the rust but doing so means I lose all the info on there. I might just mask the important stuff (hi, low, ground) and make a new arrow for the amperage settings and cover it all in black but I don't know how well it will turn out.

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    Looking good Joe.

    For that faceplate you could trace out a masking template of that white inset with the indication arrow and paint that area of the face plate white first and then the rest black with the masking template in place. For the lettering, get some appropriately sized individual stick on letters from a craft outlet to duplicate the component/function identifiers, instructions and machine identification. Or perhaps a stencil kit to make custom stencils to duplicate some or all of the lettering.
    MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1
    Syncrowave 180SD
    Bobcat 225G Plus - LP/NG
    MUTT Suitcase Wirefeeder
    WC-1S/Spoolmatic 1
    HF-251D-1
    PakMaster 100XL
    SA-200 Blackface Code# 8638
    Star Jet 21-110

    Two term limit - one in office, one in jail.

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    Re: Can you identify this welder? Need the right connector...

    Making progress......


    Used the selector dial and a bobbin as a spacer/roller to trace a template slighty larger than the dial. I did not include an indicator arrow, that will be a separate job that I am still working out.




    I used black primer than 2 coats of the non-skid paint that i used on the lid. I have no need for a non-skid faceplate but I like the texture better than the flat black. I also color coded the connectors to match the dial. This way I don't need the stinking high/low labels and makes for a cleaner look.



    Now I just have to put it back together. Eventually.

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    Looking reeeeally good! Nice touch on the connector color coding.
    MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1
    Syncrowave 180SD
    Bobcat 225G Plus - LP/NG
    MUTT Suitcase Wirefeeder
    WC-1S/Spoolmatic 1
    HF-251D-1
    PakMaster 100XL
    SA-200 Blackface Code# 8638
    Star Jet 21-110

    Two term limit - one in office, one in jail.

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    Re: Can you identify this welder? Need the right connector...

    Just got it back together. Only two problems the whole time.

    1. I can't find the screws for the dial. It's holding fine but I'll have to swing by the hardware store and find some.

    2. I wired the fan to the wrong switch leads even though I noted where they went. Now as soon as it's plugged in the fan comes on. I might just keep it that way.




    Aside from some touch up this is it. However the dial looks really warn now. If I can get a new sticker for it I'll paint it with some fusion but otherwise it's what I got.

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    Re: Can you identify this welder? Need the right connector...

    Plain, simple and rugged/ What else could ya want?

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    The mitered case: Century
    I'm a Hoss, and a Boss.

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    Re: Can you identify this welder? Need the right connector...

    I was very disappointed in my local welding shop. They did not have the connectors or any cable. They did have a good selection of rods and LOTS of tanks which is nice. So I just placed an order.

    2 connectors (lenco 10mp)
    1 crimp connector thingie
    27 feet #4 cable (25 for lead, 2 to fix craftsman welder http://weldingweb.com/showthread.php?t=30934)



    So I'll have to see how it works. Leaving for overseas next week and I want to try it out before then.

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    Well, just got my order!


    And those are the wrong connectors They are too small.



    The LC 10-MP lists a taper size between .330 - .352 which is what my micrometer confirms. I think I need the UP 10-MP which is .364 - .385 and that means I won't be welding until I get back in a few weeks.



    Guys, thanks again for all the help. Without you I wouldn't have even been on the right track! I am putting the LC 10-MP's up for sale if anyone is interested.

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    Re: Can you identify this welder? Need the right connector...

    Keep these folks https://weldingsupply.securesites.co...wsecatalogs.pl in mind for stuff such as that. They have a very freindly return policy should you find you've ordered the incorrect item.
    MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1
    Syncrowave 180SD
    Bobcat 225G Plus - LP/NG
    MUTT Suitcase Wirefeeder
    WC-1S/Spoolmatic 1
    HF-251D-1
    PakMaster 100XL
    SA-200 Blackface Code# 8638
    Star Jet 21-110

    Two term limit - one in office, one in jail.

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