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  1. #101
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    Re: Blacksmithing tools

    Just picked up this anvil today not a blacksmith but thought it would be a good addition to the shop it weighs around 180# paid 175$ for it on the stand has a protrusion out the side not sure what its for Name:  IMG_20170525_214052_205.jpg
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    Better keep an eye out for the fire department cause that's a smokin' deal!
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    WOW , that is a heck of a deal. Sellers near me would be asking $600 at least for a no name anvil.

    That will be a real asset to your shop. Can't tell the height but the top of anvil should be knuckle height making a fist standing next to it.
    Last edited by BD1; 05-27-2017 at 08:21 AM.

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    Looks like a mousehole or variant of that style. Great deal!

  5. #105
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    Good to hear that I did well on it I bought it from an older gentle men in town he said it was his grandfathers I'm surprised he parted with it but glad he did
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bwood1070 View Post
    Just picked up this anvil today ... paid 175$ [/ATTACH]

    Steal of a deal!

    That's a great size anvil, and will be very sellable if you ever put it on the market. Figure that it should run at least $3 per pound considering the quality of the face, edges and horn. That's it's on the "small" side makes it rather sought after because folks like them since they can be moved around more easily. I wouldn't quibble about the price if you asked even $5 per pound because it's in good shape and has the side table.

    Yours is what's often referred to as a wheelwright's anvil because of the odd protrusion. Being below the main face, it's not as handy for general smithing, but better to have it than not.

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    So should I clean this up with a flap wheel and paint the non striking surfaces or leave it as is
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    On that anvil, I would not use paint. Personally, I would leave it except for a coat of oil. I did use a wire wheel on mine just to rid it of surface rust, then oiled it. Never take away material from an antique anvil, especially the work face.
    The good folks over at I Forge Iron might be able to help you I.D. your anvil.
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    OK I'll look into that I am curious about the history of this anvil thanks for all your help guys
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bwood1070 View Post
    OK I'll look into that I am curious about the history of this anvil thanks for all your help guys
    This is the "bible" of anvil history and identification.



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    Re: Blacksmithing tools

    Got the super stump mostly filled and waiting on the base plate to get here before finishing it off. She's a doozy, for sure, with a 9/32" wall. All the sand, oil and scrap metal will help keep from bouncing around the shop and making a ton of noise....



    At 25" tall, she'll make a wonderful dishing stump that I can sit comfortably at. I'm looking forward to getting her finished and ready for work!

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    Nice! What diameter is that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lis2323 View Post
    Nice! What diameter is that?
    Just a hair over 9"OD. No idea what the finished weight will be, and I'm not really looking forward to getting the thing flipped over so I can finish up the welding on the base. This is when I really really wish I had a welding table that raised up and down!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnT View Post
    Just a hair over 9"OD. No idea what the finished weight will be, and I'm not really looking forward to getting the thing flipped over so I can finish up the welding on the base. This is when I really really wish I had a welding table that raised up and down!
    What are you planning on using for a base plate?

    For future projects keep a lookout for off cuts of water or sewer pipe with the bell (female end). They're made of ductile or cast iron and usually have a ceramic coating so you'll have to drill and bolt any attachments to it.

    Here's one I used as a pedestal for a blacksmith/post vice table. It's the metric equivalent of about 14 inches in diameter. Filled with concrete and rebar it weighs about 350 pounds but is easy to relocate by tipping and rolling on its edge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lis2323 View Post
    What are you planning on using for a base plate?
    Hoss, I'd absolutely love to come by something like you did for your vise. I love the industrial look, and the function is just about perfect. I have a short length of similar pipe I've been holding onto just in case I find a shorter post vise.

    For the super stump, I had a guy cut me a 9" circle from some 11ga steel since he was already cutting me some other stuff. As short as the stump is, I feel confident that it won't be a tipping hazard..... but I do have a flange that I found that's around 11" in diameter and might weld that to the base as well. It'll make it a little more stable and add some visual interest.

    I might weld on some lifting eyes so I can raise the whole thing and get it on/off the work bench where it will be easier for me to weld the flange on. Have to see how much of a pain to move it is after I get the base plate welded on.

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    If you're thinking about buying a Harbor Freight ring roller, save yourself the trouble.

    I bought one some time back thinking it would be handy to have, though I rarely have to roll any rings. Better to have it than not, right? It'll come in handy one day, won't it?

    Well, lo and behold, I needed some rings to make an order for a customer and thought it would be nice to finally break her in. Turns out, those knurled rollers are nothing more than steel chewers! They rip into the steel you're trying to form, completely destroying the finish. At best, you can use this thing just as I did..... to make a circle jig.






    I'll have to get a picture of the damage this thing does to the steel. I have no idea why they'd think this was a good idea, though I do have to admit that it doesn't require you to get some of the flat bar on the second roller to start with. The sharp teeth grab the steel and drag it into the rollers, leaving you with an almost perfect circle.

    That doesn't amount to a hill of beans when you consider how much damage they do, overall. No way you could get in there and clean it up with a flap disk or the like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnT View Post
    If you're thinking about buying a Harbor Freight ring roller, save yourself the trouble.

    I bought one some time back thinking it would be handy to have, though I rarely have to roll any rings. Better to have it than not, right? It'll come in handy one day, won't it?

    Well, lo and behold, I needed some rings to make an order for a customer and thought it would be nice to finally break her in. Turns out, those knurled rollers are nothing more than steel chewers! They rip into the steel you're trying to form, completely destroying the finish. At best, you can use this thing just as I did..... to make a circle jig.






    I'll have to get a picture of the damage this thing does to the steel. I have no idea why they'd think this was a good idea, though I do have to admit that it doesn't require you to get some of the flat bar on the second roller to start with. The sharp teeth grab the steel and drag it into the rollers, leaving you with an almost perfect circle.

    That doesn't amount to a hill of beans when you consider how much damage they do, overall. No way you could get in there and clean it up with a flap disk or the like.
    Don't feel bad. I made the same mistake with the Princess Auto version. "That would come in handy! How bad could it be?" I thought.

    One would think I'd know better by now....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lis2323 View Post
    One would think I'd know better by now....

    Terry
    Isn't that always how it works? Seems like I have to learn this lesson time and time again!

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    A lot of forged projects require holding things in place, right? Really no different than fabricating something, and you can never have too many "third hand" type tools around the shop.

    A week or so back, I ordered the DIY set of mini squares from Jason at Fireball Tool Company after I saw one of his videos on them. This is one of those things that makes you wonder how you ever got along without it. I know it would have come in very handy when I was making my anvil stand and a dozen other projects since!










    Next up is the triangle, then the mega square. I'm sure that last one is going to be fun, and I'm glad I'll have the other two to help in the build!

    Anyhow, thought I'd share and I hope you find it of use.

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    Got my Super Stump all sealed up and flipped right-side-up.







    There's a pretty deep maker's mark pressed into the base, so that will have be welded up before I go any further. I hit the whole thing with the 32g hard disk and then a 60g flap disk, managing to get out almost all of the heavy pitting. I'm sure she'll be real easy on the eyes after I take it up 120g and I might even go a bit finer if I think it warrants.

    Oddly enough, it's a bit tippy even after adding all sand and scrap metal. I'll have to keep my eyes open for a wider base, though I'm thinking I'll just call up my cutting buddy and have him make me something around 14" in diameter. Maybe some 1/2" plate with a large hole in the center to cut down on weight.

    Looking through my scrap pile for a base plate didn't turn one up, but I did find the lid from a 10-gallon drum that I think will make a nice first project for the Stump. I don't know how the thin metal will hammer, but I'm curious to see how big a bowl I can make from it.....

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    VaughnT. For stability without adding weight I'd use a farm disc blade (new or used).

    Most farms have worn out ones kicking around unless they've already sent them out for scrap.

    BD1 posted a pic of one he used for an outfeed stand for his bandsaw on WW

    Here's one I've been saving
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    Thought about that, Terry. Even have a couple stashed away. If I hadn't put the flat plate on the bottom, I might have gone that route after the other piece I was thinking to use proved to be too small. Now, shimming the thing up so it sits level on the curved harrow disk seems like too much bother, and I wonder how much spring the disk would have when hammering on the thing.

    Making the stock trays for my bandsaw, though..... that just might work!

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    Actually, you might be right about the "spring".

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