Lincoln SA-200 restore
RSS | Subscribe | Contact Us | Advertise | About Us
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 31
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Prison city Illinois
    Posts
    225

    Lincoln SA-200 restore

    pulled a 72' SA-200 off a farm for dirt cheap, started un-doing all the nonsense, rebuilding the battery box, exhaust, welding in sheet metal where it was rotten. Beautiful machine, runs and welds like a dream. Ill post more when its done.
    Attached Images Attached Images      

  2. #2
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Norfolk va
    Posts
    558

    Re: Lincoln SA-200 restore

    Nice looking machine looks great so far.
    Vantage 300 kubota ,miller 304 XMT, Hobart 210 with spool gun, T/D pak master 75, plenty of other tools of the trade to make the sparks fly.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Orange, TX
    Posts
    11,411

    Re: Lincoln SA-200 restore

    Looking good. Nice to see the Miller lending a hand to get the 'ol Lincoln back in shape.
    MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1
    Syncrowave 180SD
    Bobcat 225G Plus - LP/NG
    MUTT Suitcase Wirefeeder
    WC-1S/Spoolmatic 1
    HF-251D-1
    PakMaster 100XL
    SA-200 Blackface Code# 8638
    Star Jet 21-110

    Two term limit - one in office, one in jail.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Prison city Illinois
    Posts
    225

    Re: Lincoln SA-200 restore

    Thanks, gotta order a new faceplate though. Ill probably sneak a red face on it seeing as how its a copper 72, nobody will know right?

  5. #5
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Orange, TX
    Posts
    11,411

    Re: Lincoln SA-200 restore

    I won't tell.

    BTW, welcome to the forum.
    MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1
    Syncrowave 180SD
    Bobcat 225G Plus - LP/NG
    MUTT Suitcase Wirefeeder
    WC-1S/Spoolmatic 1
    HF-251D-1
    PakMaster 100XL
    SA-200 Blackface Code# 8638
    Star Jet 21-110

    Two term limit - one in office, one in jail.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Figuring the picking points of jelly donuts.
    Posts
    4,450

    Re: Lincoln SA-200 restore

    Quote Originally Posted by citizen smith View Post
    Thanks, gotta order a new faceplate though. Ill probably sneak a red face on it seeing as how its a copper 72, nobody will know right?
    If you're not going to play by the rules, why stop there, why not go for the very limited Red Face Blue Tint?
    Attached Images Attached Images  
    Dynasty 300
    V350-Pro w/pulse
    LF-72
    SG Spool gun

    LN-25
    1937 IdealArc-300
    PowerArc 200
    PowerArc 300
    3 SA-200s
    1800 Ellis saw
    Powermax 1250, CNC table




  7. #7
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Orange, TX
    Posts
    11,411

    Re: Lincoln SA-200 restore

    Quote Originally Posted by CEP View Post
    If you're not going to play by the rules, why stop there, why not go for the very limited Red Face Blue Tint?
    Makes one wonder how many times that's been done doesn't it?

    Where did I read the break-down on the what and whens of the SA 200 faceplate over the years? AWS forum or here?
    MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1
    Syncrowave 180SD
    Bobcat 225G Plus - LP/NG
    MUTT Suitcase Wirefeeder
    WC-1S/Spoolmatic 1
    HF-251D-1
    PakMaster 100XL
    SA-200 Blackface Code# 8638
    Star Jet 21-110

    Two term limit - one in office, one in jail.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Figuring the picking points of jelly donuts.
    Posts
    4,450

    Re: Lincoln SA-200 restore

    Quote Originally Posted by duaneb55 View Post
    Makes one wonder how many times that's been done doesn't it?

    Where did I read the break-down on the what and whens of the SA 200 faceplate over the years? AWS forum or here?
    Yes it does!

    I feel it just breaks down the ability to keep these old girls original, and harder for the next person to research what he has just bought.

    Lincoln has no record of the blue tint red face, but according to Stumpfs it was only used on code 4150.
    Dynasty 300
    V350-Pro w/pulse
    LF-72
    SG Spool gun

    LN-25
    1937 IdealArc-300
    PowerArc 200
    PowerArc 300
    3 SA-200s
    1800 Ellis saw
    Powermax 1250, CNC table




  9. #9
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Orange, TX
    Posts
    11,411

    Re: Lincoln SA-200 restore

    Quote Originally Posted by CEP View Post
    Yes it does!

    I feel it just breaks down the ability to keep these old girls original, and harder for the next person to research what he has just bought.
    As I recall the writer stated there was no "performance" distinction between the various colored faceplate units and never offered any real reason for the different versions. I believe it was also stated the faceplate was not even a 100% confirmation of the contoversial copper-vs.-aluminum main generator shunt coils saga of the mid '70s to '80s units (?? years) so many get hung up on.

    Nevertheless, I fully understand your point.
    MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1
    Syncrowave 180SD
    Bobcat 225G Plus - LP/NG
    MUTT Suitcase Wirefeeder
    WC-1S/Spoolmatic 1
    HF-251D-1
    PakMaster 100XL
    SA-200 Blackface Code# 8638
    Star Jet 21-110

    Two term limit - one in office, one in jail.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Figuring the picking points of jelly donuts.
    Posts
    4,450

    Re: Lincoln SA-200 restore

    If I recall correctly, 1970, 71, 72, and the first half of 73 were round barrel, (all copper), with a black face plate. Why Lincoln did this I have no idea.
    Dynasty 300
    V350-Pro w/pulse
    LF-72
    SG Spool gun

    LN-25
    1937 IdealArc-300
    PowerArc 200
    PowerArc 300
    3 SA-200s
    1800 Ellis saw
    Powermax 1250, CNC table




  11. #11
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    SW Az
    Posts
    2,229

    Re: Lincoln SA-200 restore

    The GTO club of America lists nearly 2x as many 3 deuce Goats as were ever produced by Pontiac. Reason? the 3 deuce manifold was produced for many years, is very BUFF, and easily found

    enjoy
    Lincoln Power MIG 215
    Lincoln WeldPak 3200HD
    Lincon ProCut 25
    Lincoln WeldanPower 225 AC/DC

    If all else fails... buy more tools

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Prison city Illinois
    Posts
    225

    Re: Lincoln SA-200 restore

    well, I was under the impression that 72 was the year they switched to a black face, about mid way through.... even though they still had copper inside.. so I just figured it would be no big inaccuracy. But I could be wrong... I guess I could just try to salvage the back plate thats on it, but its all bent up in one corner.

  13. #13
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Figuring the picking points of jelly donuts.
    Posts
    4,450

    Re: Lincoln SA-200 restore

    Seems as I read 1969 or maybe 1969.5 was the last year for the Red Face, call Stumpfs they'll know. You can buy replacement face plates from them, and they will stamp the serial and code numbers on it for you.

    http://www.stumpfweldingsupplies.com...ameplates.html
    Dynasty 300
    V350-Pro w/pulse
    LF-72
    SG Spool gun

    LN-25
    1937 IdealArc-300
    PowerArc 200
    PowerArc 300
    3 SA-200s
    1800 Ellis saw
    Powermax 1250, CNC table




  14. #14
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Prison city Illinois
    Posts
    225

    Re: Lincoln SA-200 restore

    a fresh coat of paint, a removal of a birds nest from the generator, and a bunch of other nonsense gets us to this point. You all talked me into keeping my faceplate just the way it is. Alittle seafoam and a fresh tank of gas and it starts faster than my trailblazer and welds like a dream. Now all thats left is the trailer hitch and axle... Also a shot of my goofy torch cart.
    Attached Images Attached Images     

  15. #15
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Figuring the picking points of jelly donuts.
    Posts
    4,450

    Re: Lincoln SA-200 restore

    Good job!

    May want to flip that oil filter over where it belongs.
    Dynasty 300
    V350-Pro w/pulse
    LF-72
    SG Spool gun

    LN-25
    1937 IdealArc-300
    PowerArc 200
    PowerArc 300
    3 SA-200s
    1800 Ellis saw
    Powermax 1250, CNC table




  16. #16
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Orange, TX
    Posts
    11,411

    Re: Lincoln SA-200 restore

    Yup, looks good and I don't see any goofy torch cart.

    Actually, the spin-on is fine that way as it drains back to the base and as such empties out rather quickly after shutdown. Typical installation for a spin-on with that type head.
    MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1
    Syncrowave 180SD
    Bobcat 225G Plus - LP/NG
    MUTT Suitcase Wirefeeder
    WC-1S/Spoolmatic 1
    HF-251D-1
    PakMaster 100XL
    SA-200 Blackface Code# 8638
    Star Jet 21-110

    Two term limit - one in office, one in jail.

  17. #17
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Figuring the picking points of jelly donuts.
    Posts
    4,450

    Re: Lincoln SA-200 restore

    There was a discussion on one of these boards where the filter worked fine for some this way, but others reported the filter never filled with oil. Seems to me if nothing else, if the oil didn't all drain back into the pan, you'd get oil all over when changing.
    Dynasty 300
    V350-Pro w/pulse
    LF-72
    SG Spool gun

    LN-25
    1937 IdealArc-300
    PowerArc 200
    PowerArc 300
    3 SA-200s
    1800 Ellis saw
    Powermax 1250, CNC table




  18. #18
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Figuring the picking points of jelly donuts.
    Posts
    4,450

    Re: Lincoln SA-200 restore

    I flipped mine over just so I wouldn't get oil all over when changing.
    Attached Images Attached Images   
    Dynasty 300
    V350-Pro w/pulse
    LF-72
    SG Spool gun

    LN-25
    1937 IdealArc-300
    PowerArc 200
    PowerArc 300
    3 SA-200s
    1800 Ellis saw
    Powermax 1250, CNC table




  19. #19
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Orange, TX
    Posts
    11,411

    Re: Lincoln SA-200 restore

    Understood.

    My old Kohler 6.5 generator (Kohler 4cyl L-head) has the same type by-pass filter mounted the way citizen smith's is and after a few minutes from shuting down the filter can be spun off without spewing oil all over.

    Typical on Millers too. Big 20 parts unit in the yard.
    Name:  Spin-on By-Pass Filter 003A.jpg
Views: 3022
Size:  48.3 KB


    Don't know how well the retrofit filter head type such as those that Bill's and others sell drain out upside down though.
    MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1
    Syncrowave 180SD
    Bobcat 225G Plus - LP/NG
    MUTT Suitcase Wirefeeder
    WC-1S/Spoolmatic 1
    HF-251D-1
    PakMaster 100XL
    SA-200 Blackface Code# 8638
    Star Jet 21-110

    Two term limit - one in office, one in jail.

  20. #20
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Prison city Illinois
    Posts
    225

    Re: Lincoln SA-200 restore

    well, to be honest, I havent even gotten to the oil system yet. I have alittle wheeper in one of the flare fittings. Id like to swap the tube out for maybe SS hose or something like CEP has above.

    Also, My gauge cluster in front needs some attention. Namely the amperage gauge needs to be hooked up. Im not sure how the person before had it wired. And then the Oil temp is completely smashed in so I cut the probe right behind the gauge for now.... Truthfully I like those gauges on the engine but for some reason they put them all up front. Oh well.

    Since I dont have any experience with these machines, did they have a manual Idle control on these things? I have the Vacuum idler still functional on the machine, and someone at some point did some modifications and put a push arm from the front panel to the back of linkage of the idler so you could push the idle up. But if you let go- it just idles down again. Theres also a mysterious unwired extra toggle switch on the front, so Im wondering if someone had this thing set up differently at one point.
    Now, I know, everyone is going to suggest I just upgrade the idler anyways and then I can switch it up and down all day, but I was just wondering if there was something done to these old ones.

  21. #21
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Figuring the picking points of jelly donuts.
    Posts
    4,450

    Re: Lincoln SA-200 restore

    Napa can set you up with any gauges you'll need. There is a grind ez option you can get from Shirley Cable.
    Dynasty 300
    V350-Pro w/pulse
    LF-72
    SG Spool gun

    LN-25
    1937 IdealArc-300
    PowerArc 200
    PowerArc 300
    3 SA-200s
    1800 Ellis saw
    Powermax 1250, CNC table




  22. #22
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Figuring the picking points of jelly donuts.
    Posts
    4,450

    Re: Lincoln SA-200 restore

    Little late now, but you could have filled in all the holes in the front, and made a control panel like I did for my 1948 under the left side door.
    Attached Images Attached Images  
    Dynasty 300
    V350-Pro w/pulse
    LF-72
    SG Spool gun

    LN-25
    1937 IdealArc-300
    PowerArc 200
    PowerArc 300
    3 SA-200s
    1800 Ellis saw
    Powermax 1250, CNC table




  23. #23
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Posts
    386

    Re: Lincoln SA-200 restore

    Nice restore. I had a 72 sa200 as well. I sold it because didn't see the need in 3 welding machines. I sure do miss the old girl. Had a superb buttery arc. Its nice to see another one being brought back to her original glory. Looks good

  24. #24
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Prison city Illinois
    Posts
    225

    Re: Lincoln SA-200 restore

    Ok, so the alternator on my machine is bad, who has some recommendations? The mounting bracket off of weldmart is more expensive than the alt itself. What type of alts are you guys putting in? has anyone made their own mounting brackets?

  25. #25
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    225

    Re: Lincoln SA-200 restore

    Goggle, Bills welder repair they should be able to help you out. They have good information and parts and rebuild about anything.
    Miller 330 A/BP Bernard SS cooler
    Miller cst 250
    Miller Big Blue 251D
    Century 210 Mig (first welder I bought)
    Hypertherm PowerMax 800
    Victor torch set
    Ru Fong 31 Mil
    Atlas lathe

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
RSS | Home | Penton Media | Contact Us | Subscribe | For Advertisers | Terms of Use | Privacy Statement