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    Pancake welding hoods

    I got a outside pipe welding job coming up here next month. I was told I better have a pancake hood. Now I always use my miller ultra ellite daily outside when welding on bridges. But they insist on me having a pancake

    Everyone has heard of wendy's pancakes http://www.wendyspancakes.net

    But I also found Sarge's pancakes http://pancakehelmets.com/

    Now after talking to a few pipeliners about pancake hoods all i got for answers depending on who i was talking too where: both are junk, both are great, who the hell is wendy, who the hell is sarge, and you don't need a stupid pancake hood you need a jackson pipeliner hood.

    So my question to everyone is who's brand of pancake helmit do your own? And why.
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    Re: Pancake welding hoods

    Why not just stick with what works best for you? This is a temporary project, yes?
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    Re: Pancake welding hoods

    WTF are those for?!
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    Re: Pancake welding hoods

    I never understood the right and left handed. And WHO says you had better have one? I would think they would want you to do what you're used to and make great welds. Now IF you just want one, then by all means.......
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    Re: Pancake welding hoods

    Quote Originally Posted by Stick-man View Post
    I never understood the right and left handed.
    If you're right handed, reaching under the pipe your left ear is exposed to sparks. Opposite for left handed people.
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    Re: Pancake welding hoods

    If you show up with an old pipeliner hood nobody is going to say a word.

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    Re: Pancake welding hoods

    Quote Originally Posted by WeldingMachine View Post
    WTF are those for?!
    Well the reason for the pan cake hood is the face piece fits tight against ur eyes so no light from the sun can get in from behind causing glare. Thats the story I was given. Almost every pipeliner runs them.
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    Re: Pancake welding hoods

    Quote Originally Posted by Metal Pounder2 View Post
    If you show up with an old pipeliner hood nobody is going to say a word.
    Thats what I was planning to do. Then if they bitch get one. I got an old school pipeliner now somewhere, hopefully I can find an auto darkening lens for it. I can't deal with a non-auto lens.
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    Re: Pancake welding hoods

    I don't know about Wendy but I own a sarge built hood and love it. Buy it from plwelders. com good gal owns it.. Plus get the deer or elk hide strips makes a perfect fit. Btw I know sarges hoods are OSHA approved..

    Warning once you go pancake you'll never go back..
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    Re: Pancake welding hoods

    Quote Originally Posted by Xtreme Fabrication View Post
    Thats what I was planning to do. Then if they bitch get one. I got an old school pipeliner now somewhere, hopefully I can find an auto darkening lens for it. I can't deal with a non-auto lens.
    You can get a drop in auto dark lens for it no problem. I wear glasses and just never did feel comfortable with the pancake rigs. I have a section of leather attached to the hoodthat flaps over the back to keep sunlight out.

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    Re: Pancake welding hoods

    Quote Originally Posted by JONESee View Post
    I don't know about Wendy but I own a sarge built hood and love it. Buy it from plwelders. com good gal owns it.. Plus get the deer or elk hide strips makes a perfect fit. Btw I know sarges hoods are OSHA approved..

    Warning once you go pancake you'll never go back..
    I checked out Wendy's page a while ago and she has ANSI approved hoods available now, also.

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    Re: Pancake welding hoods

    Quote Originally Posted by JONESee View Post
    I don't know about Wendy but I own a sarge built hood and love it. Buy it from plwelders. com good gal owns it.. Plus get the deer or elk hide strips makes a perfect fit. Btw I know sarges hoods are OSHA approved..

    Warning once you go pancake you'll never go back..

    X2 on the Sarge's, that's what I run. And he's right, once you use one you won't want to use a standard hood anymore. I would try one if I were you, but I'm sure you would be fine with your Pipeliner too.
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    Re: Pancake welding hoods

    Quote Originally Posted by JONESee View Post
    I don't know about Wendy but I own a sarge built hood and love it. Buy it from plwelders. com good gal owns it...
    There is no ' s ' in her site name.
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    Re: Pancake welding hoods

    Get the california model. Its missing the strap to go around head and has a dildo mouthpiece instead. You don't need no stinking pancake to weld pipe.

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    Re: Pancake welding hoods

    Quote Originally Posted by slim83 View Post
    Get the california model. Its missing the strap to go around head and has a dildo mouthpiece instead. You don't need no stinking pancake to weld pipe.


    I'll agree with you....
    However, my eyes do not.

    I WOULD NOT have a job without my pancake hood, and would of been run without it IMO.

    I cannot see **** without my pancake in the field and all I ever get is glare off the lense and haven't been able to get around it.

    I love my cut down pipeliner too...But, I cannot use it outdoors on pipe especially....
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    Re: Pancake welding hoods

    Hummm... I weld outside for a living too and glare has never been an issue. Anyways pancakes are illegal with the company I work with.

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    Re: Pancake welding hoods

    Quote Originally Posted by slim83 View Post
    Anyways pancakes are illegal with the company I work with.
    So I take it you took that job at the Eggo factory??? Sorry!

    WHY would a company make those hoods illegal? Not trying to be a smartguy, just wondering. I do have a problem with glare on a sunny day. I just started a thread on it. I like the idea of the pancake face mask, but I also have a problem with goggles and such fogging up real bad when it's cold. So I think that would be a problem with a pancake. But they do look cool, in their own way.
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    Re: Pancake welding hoods

    pretty sure your company doesn't write the laws...
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    Re: Pancake welding hoods

    The company I work for banned them because people have a tendency not to wear safety glasses under them and when they lift up the pancake they or their helper start grinding and a few eye injuries occured. Also most of the refineries and plants we work in require hardhat hoods.

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    Re: Pancake welding hoods

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluto View Post
    pretty sure your company doesn't write the laws...
    I'm pretty sure that any company can implement a safety rule concerning safety equipment which is what any hood is even pancakes but I'm just a dumbass welder what would I know.

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    Re: Pancake welding hoods

    I am working on making one now, welding outside with the sun at your back with an open hood sucks, never nind the 6010 BB's in your ear when your under a pipe in some godforsaken position. I run a cutdown Pipeliner hood now with a gold lense, and it is great, unless the sun is at your back, or you forgot your welders cap(brim over the ear you know).
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    Re: Pancake welding hoods

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluto View Post
    pretty sure your company doesn't write the laws...
    The "laws" are the CFRs that OSHA enforces. They are always the minimum. Any company anywhere at anytime for any reason can implement a policy that exceeds (or at least does not contradict) the CFR.

    The "law" says ironworkers can be 15 feet above the closest level (30 feet for connectors), but 99% of steel erectors have adopted a 6 foot rule. Usually insurance driven.
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    Re: Pancake welding hoods

    Quote Originally Posted by Xtreme Fabrication View Post
    Thats what I was planning to do. Then if they bitch get one. I got an old school pipeliner now somewhere, hopefully I can find an auto darkening lens for it. I can't deal with a non-auto lens.
    I've got new auto-darkening lense I will make you a good deal on.

    http://weldingweb.com/showthread.php?t=51243
    Last edited by Showdog75; 04-07-2011 at 09:55 PM.

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    Re: Pancake welding hoods

    I'm afraid I'ld be tempted to paint a happy face on it if I had one.

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    Re: Pancake welding hoods

    Quote Originally Posted by Stick-man View Post
    So I take it you took that job at the Eggo factory??? Sorry!

    WHY would a company make those hoods illegal? Not trying to be a smartguy, just wondering. y.
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