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    Re: Welding Cart

    So some more of the welding the last shelf and middle spacers in the upright. No particular order.

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    Re: Welding Cart

    This 1st weld was done vertical. Turned down to 80A. This was the second. The first vertical was done at 85A but blew through at the top/last 1/4". (I'm not sharing pics of that mistake)
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    Some more done flat:
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    Re: Welding Cart

    and some more:
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    Could have done better tying these all together.
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    Re: Welding Cart

    After flap disc-ing the edges around the handle down:
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    I really should have done better fit-up so the welds would have made better corners to leave un-ground

    And some more of the stick welds
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    Re: Welding Cart

    For the shelf supports, I added 3/4" 1/8 angle. Welded ends and plug welded. Holes drilled were 5/16

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    Not all of them, but you get the idea.
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    Re: Welding Cart

    And for entry into welding fails of the day, my feeble attempt to weld along the bottom edge of 2 of the angles. I determined after this, the plugs and end welds would suffice.

    The picture doesn't do it proper justice, but the right weld, on this first picture, I was able to nicely stack on the edge of the angle without so much as touching the metal behind it.
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    stupid poor positioning, and trying to freehand without any support or touch points coming back to bite me .
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    Re: Welding Cart

    Ready for the shelves. Hopefully we have some good weather this week so I can plasma cut the diamond plate outside.

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    I think I have a plan for tig filler tubes next to the tank. Not sure what I am going to do for torch, ground, and hose holders yet.

    Any comments, ideas, criticism, suggestions, or pointers are welcome.
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    Re: Welding Cart

    Cart looks good and weld are fine by my standards (which is not saying much though!). However I would suggest you don't get hang up on the cosmetic side of the cart. The cart is a tool after all. It needs to be strong, and serviceable. Pretty comes last! I know you want to be proud of this project as well, but my suggestion is to stitch it up quickly, paint it some and put it to work. I even had a friend of mine spray my cart with some nice automotive metallic paint, clear coat and bla bla bla. It lasted a few days before it got scratched. Not worth the effort.

    And just because you want to weld... DO NOT WELD THE SNOOT OUT OF IT. It is a welding cart, not a bridge. Besides, extra weld will distort your structure.

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    Turning out really nice. You could have used ALL angle for the top shelf instead of tube and angle. I know , like many of us you bought the tube to use it ALL up and didn't want to buy a whole chunk of angle. Nothing wrong at all BUT if you bought a whole stick of angle you would have leftovers for another project and your start for scrap collection or small cutoffs.
    As mentioned about too much weld and distortion , in your post #25 with the plate with holes and tube , the bottom tube didn't have to be welded to the plate with holes. That is where that much weld will pull the plate down to the tube. I'm just saying, I know with many new welders they just want to weld and get carried away. It's the same with plates for casters, they don't need to be welded solid but for many it's hard to resists once you get started.

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    Re: Welding Cart

    Here's a few pics of a couple of my carts for possible hose/cable hangers ideas.

    Your cart is coming along nicely.

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    Re: Welding Cart

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikel_24 View Post
    And just because you want to weld... DO NOT WELD THE SNOOT OUT OF IT. It is a welding cart, not a bridge. Besides, extra weld will distort your structure.

    Mikel

    Quote Originally Posted by BD1 View Post
    As mentioned about too much weld and distortion , in your post #25 with the plate with holes and tube , the bottom tube didn't have to be welded to the plate with holes. That is where that much weld will pull the plate down to the tube. I'm just saying, I know with many new welders they just want to weld and get carried away. It's the same with plates for casters, they don't need to be welded solid but for many it's hard to resists once you get started.
    Thanks for the feedback! If only you both were standing over my shoulder before i added those “one last weld”, but i guess learning about distortion through experience taught me the same lesson. I will definitely put the lessons to good use on the next cart for the plasma cutter and mig welder.
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    Re: Welding Cart

    Quote Originally Posted by Lis2323 View Post
    Here's a few pics of a couple of my carts for possible hose/cable hangers ideas.
    Your cart is coming along nicely.
    Terry
    Thanks Terry. I definitely think I will be borrowing some of these ideas.
    BTW, very nice platform setup for the 351 and cooler.
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    Re: Welding Cart

    filling in a couple lost pics from 9/2017
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    Re: Welding Cart

    Finally got the cable holders finished, on the longest welding cart build ever
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    Re: Welding Cart

    Some of the foot pedal welds
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    Re: Welding Cart

    Quote Originally Posted by jay gill View Post
    Ergh, here is where i embarrassingly admit I was seated on a stool for all the welds that I had posted by the time you commented. I will say that my filler feed is still very shaky. I am trying to force myself to feed with my fingers and not move my hand as opposed to choking up on the rod and just dipping the rod until I get to my finger tips. If anything, because of this, I feel like I'm traveling too slow at times. I do agree that I do need to get better. Thanks for the feedback.
    Just for giggles try running the torch with the left and use your dominate hand to feed. It might surprise you

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    Re: Welding Cart

    Who would have thunk it - all primed for paint
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    Re: Welding Cart

    not many people use a fume extractor for tig... but it has its place. and its place should be far enough away from the weld to not disrupt the shielding gas, looks like that may have happend
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    Quote Originally Posted by tracymobilecnc View Post
    not many people use a fume extractor for tig... but it has its place. and its place should be far enough away from the weld to not disrupt the shielding gas, looks like that may have happend
    I'm not following I do have a fume extractor that I use when I stick weld and about 50% of the time when MIG welding-mostly when its colder and i can't leave a door open, but never with tig.
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    Re: Welding Cart


    jay gill


    Kudos for going after it - but . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikel_24 View Post
    And just because you want to weld - DO NOT WELD THE SNOOT OUT OF IT.
    It is a welding cart, not a bridge. Besides, extra weld will distort your structure.
    The hallmark - of a novice welder, is welding every possible place they can, then
    welding over that - again + + . . .

    You have 4/5x the number of welds necessary - and 10/12x the amount of filler
    required. Your, excessive-labor-effort [with grinding] is incalculable . . .

    Metal fabrication is joinery - welding is just the screws or nails - not the central
    effort . . .

    Consider acquiring: Lincoln's - The Procedure Handbook of Arc Welding.

    http://www.jflf.org/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=PH

    Go used [web or book store] - 5/10$ - anything from the '70 forward is still good
    [pertinent and unchanged] for applied welding techniques . . .

    Focus: on metal prep [weld area], joinery, filler rod size ratio to weld sections,

    This book will exponentially advance your learning curve . . .


    Opus



    ps -

    Don't thank me - just get the book . . .




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    Re: Welding Cart

    Paint time!!!

    USA! USA! USA!

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    I'll let it dry and cure for a couple days and put the wheels on, screw down the shelves, and load up the welder, fume extractor, cords, & leads. After that I guess it will be time to build the water cooler.
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    Re: Welding Cart

    Fini.

    A couple before loading it up.
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    And all covered up

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    I just need to go get a couple lengths of 1.25" PCV pipe and some couplings & caps to make the rod holders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OPUS FERRO View Post

    jay gill



    Consider acquiring: Lincoln's - The Procedure Handbook of Arc Welding.
    Opus
    You mean this, that I mentioned in my first post?
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    I also explained in my 1st post that I wanted a certain flat look on all my butt welds. To that end I took some liberty with the procedures I picked, but they are in the book. For other places, I do admit there are some extra welds that I didn't need but part of building the cart was to practice, gain experience, and learn from my mistakes. For example: the shelf supports - on my mig/plasma cart, I will most likely use one center plug and the end welds, and definitely not try to weld the bottom edge, which i stopped doing on this cart after 2 silly attempts. Will I weld the inside corners again where the shelves meet the upright? More than likely, so I can practice on my vertical welding. Are they need? No. Is burning the extra 2-3 rods really going to matter and be a "waste of filler" if I do it on the cart as opposed burning then on a practice pad? I don't know. Could I have only done 3 short weld for the cord holders instead of going all the war around? Sure, but again, why not practice, and the extra 2" of tig weld on each on isn't driving me to the poor farm paying for filler.
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    I would have welded it completely if it was my own welding cart for fun. However, at work I would have done just enough to save time. It is just a fun welding cart, I cant imagine the tolerances being super extreme lol. And if there was obvious warpage... lesson learned.

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