This question makes me feel dumb. Battery in auto darken helmets.
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  1. #1
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    This question makes me feel dumb. Battery in auto darken helmets.

    Do they have batteries? And what is it like when those batteries die?
    This past week (today and yesterday) I was doing some TIG and seemed to get occasionally blinded by nasty green light. To the point where I could not see anything close to a puddle. I got through some of the easy bench work, but even other easy stuff started giving me problems. Battery? It just seemed like I just needed to strike the (HF) arc and buzz about the area to burn ? away?
    Was also doing some MIG and had my own problems there with chicken poop, but as that machine has a different helmet, no vision problems. Maybe try that bucket with TIG?

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    Re: This question makes me feel dumb. Battery in auto darken helmets.

    You will need to post which helmet it is to get an answer. Some use batteries, some do not.
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    Re: This question makes me feel dumb. Battery in auto darken helmets.

    I'm surprised they didn't reverse the polarization so they stay full dark when the battery/capacitor dies, but I guess that's the tradeoff for battery life.

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    Re: This question makes me feel dumb. Battery in auto darken helmets.

    Top of the line Miller

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    Re: This question makes me feel dumb. Battery in auto darken helmets.

    Mine was doing that, it turned out to be the sensitivity setting. I went from fast to slow and it hasn't happened again. It a relatively cheap helmet.

    Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk

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    Re: This question makes me feel dumb. Battery in auto darken helmets.

    When the Miller batteries die you get the green shade. There should be a little red light blinking it they're dying. If you stick the top of the lens behind something and block the sensor while welding you get the green shade. Green shade = bad. Don't weld if it ain't darkening. Post up the model of your helmet (I assume Digital Elite) because some need a certain brand battery to fit in the holder(s) correctly.
    "You can't out puke a buzzard"

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    Re: This question makes me feel dumb. Battery in auto darken helmets.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pipeliner View Post
    When the Miller batteries die you get the green shade. There should be a little red light blinking it they're dying. If you stick the top of the lens behind something and block the sensor while welding you get the green shade. Green shade = bad. Don't weld if it ain't darkening. Post up the model of your helmet (I assume Digital Elite) because some need a certain brand battery to fit in the holder(s) correctly.
    Yup, and batteries ordered. I switched to my other bucket and all is fine, other than a filthy outer lens cover. Unfortunately after getting a good green flash it is impossible to see a blinking red light on the back.
    Thanks guys.

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    Re: This question makes me feel dumb. Battery in auto darken helmets.

    Dunno about your Miller, but my SpeedGlass helmet uses lithium coin cells I can get at the grocery, Wally-World, or whereever . . .

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    Re: This question makes me feel dumb. Battery in auto darken helmets.

    Wow, like a religious experience! I changed the outer lens cover on the other bucket instead of cleaning it again. Behold and the blind shall see again.

    Tad, these are twice as thick as most coin batteries I see locally. Had to get some other stuff from McMaster so they will be here tomorrow.

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    Re: This question makes me feel dumb. Battery in auto darken helmets.

    It's just a standard 3V lithium CR2450 although Panisonic is recommended as not all manufacturers batteries have the same shoulder height, Energizer CR2450 that are in most grocery stores are "thinner". Go figure a standard battery isn't even standard anymore...
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    Re: This question makes me feel dumb. Battery in auto darken helmets.

    They all have batteries, it just depends on whether yours are easily replaceable. (as in designed to allow replacement, or designed to be recharged by solar panel)

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