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    Mig Nozzle Gel

    Hi, I have been lurking on this site for over a year, I finally purchased a Lincoln 180 Dual to use for Automotive work and light fabrication. I am new to welding and I was wondering about this nozzle gel, do any of you guys use it, and if so, do you prefer one brand over the other and why? I haven't found much information on it. I plan on doing MIG and Flux Core and do I use it on both processes. I am concerned about weld contamination if using the gel, any help would be appreciated.

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    Re: Mig Nozzle Gel

    I used a few different kinds, I can't tell the difference from one to the next. They do a decent job. Just do some welding and dip it hot. Don't need to cake it on there just a little dip and be done.

    You don't 'need' it but it can help with cleaning out the nozzles here and there. One little jar will last you a long long time
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    Re: Mig Nozzle Gel

    I use cooking spray like Pam, spray em and wipe off excess. You can usually just tap the nozzle and the ring will drop off.
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    Re: Mig Nozzle Gel

    I plan to try the ceramic spray when I use up the gel I have.

    Seems like those using it really like it, but it is expensive.
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    Re: Mig Nozzle Gel

    Pam for grilling keeps the OSHA inspector happy.

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    Re: Mig Nozzle Gel

    I use some welding Gel that I got from Airgas a long time ago when i was a customer there. The stuff really lasts a long time. I run straight CO2 with my Miller 252 and it helps to minimize the spatter.

    I just dip the nose of the torch in the jar now and then when it's hot. It also keeps the inner tip and outer cone nice and clean.
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    Re: Mig Nozzle Gel

    I can not tell the difference between the tubs of Lincoln Electric and Hobart jells I have. It really works and yes good for both solid/gas or flux cored wire welding. Sure it would be good for dual shielded wire welding as well.
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    Re: Mig Nozzle Gel

    I also never noticed the difference in brands. Trick is to dip hot, hang with gun downward to drain then use after coffee break. Doing this at each coffee break and lunch lets you weld all day with no problems. It is important to drain the gun when hot. I have seen people dip too much so that the diffuser holes inside the nozzle are plugged up with the grease/gel. Also run a short bead on scrap after dipping in case you have contamination. It is a good idea to also do this with spray.

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    Re: Mig Nozzle Gel

    I use the ceramic nozzle spray for alum work and it does a great job. I have recently started using it on my plasma nozzles and shields as well. Gel still does a good job when might welding steel as long as you extend the wire and clip it after dipping. Yes, do not invert the nozzle.
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    Re: Mig Nozzle Gel

    I bought this from Zoro Tools on their 30% off and free shipping. It's shown as a tin paint can type lid BUT it is really a plastic container. You cannot beat the price ! Stuffs works well too. Heavy Duty Nozzle Dip Gel 32 oz. $6.96
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    Re: Mig Nozzle Gel

    I use a light spray of Pam down the nozzle - get hungry for french fries while welding.

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    Re: Mig Nozzle Gel

    I like gel because it doesn't require I can dip and keep on welding. Non flammible too.

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    Re: Mig Nozzle Gel

    I use ceramic spray on MIG and Plasma consumables......as recommended by Shovelon.

    Bloody good stuff.
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    Re: Mig Nozzle Gel

    Quote Originally Posted by Mick120 View Post
    I use ceramic spray on MIG and Plasma consumables......as recommended by Shovelon.

    Bloody good stuff.
    don't bogart that spray, My friend.


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    Re: Mig Nozzle Gel

    Quote Originally Posted by John T View Post
    don't bogart that spray, My friend.
    Wow! somebody is showing their age.

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    Re: Mig Nozzle Gel

    I just dip the tip. I just use the gel from the local farm and feed store.
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    Re: Mig Nozzle Gel

    Well worth the 50 cents I gave for it at a yard sell 12 years ago. Still half full. LOL
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    Re: Mig Nozzle Gel

    I use the Hobart brand. They all work better than nothing. You want to dip the nozzle when it's hot, and then burn off the excess on a scrap piece of metal. It's almost like grease. It drastically helps to remove spatter from the nozzle and contact tip. The cheap brands have a more harsh smoke than better brands. I heard that you can use Vaseline or Pam cooking spray too. I've never tried them but the cooking spray is designed for high temperature applications.

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    Re: Mig Nozzle Gel

    i've used a couple/few brands of the dip. it does an ok job but it's messy. i much prefer nozzel kleen spray by weld-aid. another use; i on occasion spray parts i don't want spatter to stick to. the hydrocarbon scent is pretty cool too.
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    Re: Mig Nozzle Gel

    I just watched a video of Jody Weldmonger making a 3 post adjustable pedestal shop stool and he used Pam spray for the allthread rod to prevent the weld spatter from sticking to the threads. Aparently the Pam cooking spray is user friendly and has no required MSD safety sheets
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