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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalMan23 View Post
    Congrats on landing the job, are you painting the braces too?
    No I am not painting them.


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    Re: First Paid Welding Gig

    I think they are called arbors not frames .

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    Re: First Paid Welding Gig

    Looking at the potential of getting 300. I would plan and build a style I would be repeatable, profitable and minimize time. Torch would be the fastest if it is already in hand.

    It a arbor-trellis-frame and going to be covered with vines.
    Why do the need to be butted between the posts?

    Congrats...have fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tapwelder View Post
    Why do the need to be butted between the posts?
    Are you talking about the cross members? I'm not sure why he needs them like that, if that's what you are talking about.


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    Yes. If he requested them like that, then I guess that is the reason.

    Seems like you have a good plan. Carry on. Look forward to photos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Will S. View Post
    He's being paid to fab these. IMHO, the customer should expect (and get) professional results. Seems to me that sledge hammering the ends would lead to distorting, undesired bending, and inconsistent results.

    I like the idea of the drill press, or he could fab a drill jig with some steel plate. Clamp the pipe, and drill thru the a guide hole, to saddle the end if the work piece.



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    being paid or not there's nothing un-professional about flattening the ends its commonly done in many applications. a hammer is just an example, and somthing that i have done professionally. could just as well put the end in a press.

    coping the ends is a time consuming process, and often necessary but in this application and potential quantity the time savings may yield a better value for the farmer and more profit for the fabricator. which is why it may be worth considering.


    OK, I understand your point, and agree, for the intended purpose, it wouldn't matter. I suppose it should be whatever the two agreed on, if it was even discussed.

    Reminds me of the sign in a shop; Quick, Cheap, Good: pick any 2
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    Re: First Paid Welding Gig

    Here's what I got with a 30 degree cut. It's got a big gap in it. Name:  image.jpg
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    That’s not a bad gap at all. Especially once you center the pipe in the saddle. I would rather have a small gap, than a very tight fit.
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    Re: First Paid Welding Gig

    If he were to get a template and learn to cut the saddles correctly he can cut them faster then he can flatten them . And probably faster welding too unless he is using wire to fill them .

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    Gap is only half that if centered. Also, play with angles and knocking the bevel will improve fitup, should you require it.

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    Re: First Paid Welding Gig

    Well I've got some more updates tonight. Name:  IMG_2924.jpg
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    Re: First Paid Welding Gig

    Quote Originally Posted by motolife313 View Post
    Here's what I got with a 30 degree cut. It's got a big gap in it. Name:  image.jpg
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    That looks clean!
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    Re: First Paid Welding Gig

    Quote Originally Posted by Jess View Post
    I will share how I kept all the saddles aligned, sometime soon.
    I would use one of these, center punch at each end of pipe. Top and bottom of pipe.
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    Re: First Paid Welding Gig

    Yeah, that would work even better (and faster)! Thanks, CEP!
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    Re: First Paid Welding Gig

    Depending on what I’m doing, I’ll use a chalk line over each center punch mark the length of the pipe.
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    Re: First Paid Welding Gig

    Quote Originally Posted by Jess View Post
    That looks clean!
    Thanks. I'd like to try 40 degree and see if it fits tighter

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    Re: First Paid Welding Gig

    The center finder is a good aid too, but maybe the Curvo matic might be better and faster . Here's a post , http://weldingweb.com/showthread.php...61#post4703361
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    That chart on the first page doesn't say what wall thickness pipe. If you use the same angle cut on a thinner pipe you are going to end up with a gap. Wall thickness changes on pipe below 14" affect the ID. Moto, your saddled pipe looks pretty thin on that side angle shot. That's why you ended up with a gap.

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    That looks like some serious heavy pipe to hold up vines.

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    You just keep cutting them with the torch. It's the easiest and fastest and a skill you will need to have for the rest of your life here in Texas, pipe fence capitol of the world. Eventually you will be doing them very accurate and have your technique down to get fast. Remember, the jobs you will get are not just for making money but for developing your skills and learning. You may not make as much now as other, more experienced weldors, but remember, an education costs money.Name:  2015-07-08 16.48.07.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimmyTIG View Post
    That chart on the first page doesn't say what wall thickness pipe. If you use the same angle cut on a thinner pipe you are going to end up with a gap. Wall thickness changes on pipe below 14" affect the ID. Moto, your saddled pipe looks pretty thin on that side angle shot. That's why you ended up with a gap.
    I thought that aswell and recut it with same results. I think I need more angle to sink the pipe lower and have it wider like this oneName:  image.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    You just keep cutting them with the torch. It's the easiest and fastest and a skill you will need to have for the rest of your life here in Texas, pipe fence capitol of the world. Eventually you will be doing them very accurate and have your technique down to get fast. Remember, the jobs you will get are not just for making money but for developing your skills and learning. You may not make as much now as other, more experienced weldors, but remember, an education costs money.Name:  2015-07-08 16.48.07.jpg
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    Yeah, that why I was lean toward using a torch. I would like to get really good with one. So I've got to practice!
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    Re: First Paid Welding Gig

    Quote Originally Posted by motolife313 View Post
    Here's what I got with a 30 degree cut. It's got a big gap in it. Name:  image.jpg
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    "big gap"...I suppose you could call that big. I use this method alot and every once in a while ill get one side with 3/16" due to my cutting fault. It is easier for me because of the location of my drill press and i am usually already cutting the pipe anyways, so you just need one tool.
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    Just my $.02 but building some kind of fixture would really help with production speeds. Cut and prep all of your stock, drop in fixture, zap zap zap, and dun. A piece of plywood and some blocks of wood for the time being will get you balls deep into a 300pcs order.

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