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    Criminals? You mean like people who conspire with foreign governments to swing an election? Or do you mean people who cheat their investors out of money? Of do you mean people who short pay their contractors? Or do you mean people who operate sham "universities" to swindle people?

    What brand of criminals you mean? There are lots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zimm View Post
    Criminals? You mean like people who conspire with foreign governments to swing an election? Or do you mean people who cheat their investors out of money? Of do you mean people who short pay their contractors? Or do you mean people who operate sham "universities" to swindle people?

    What brand of criminals you mean? There are lots.
    Haven't you heard? Those stories are all fake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoecruiser View Post
    OK there Mr Hobbytime, here are some more links from that vast libtard conspiracy for you to fume about. Isn't it amazing how they are all in collusion with each other but nay-sayers such as.....*yourself*.....can't produce any credible evidence to refute it? Hmmm? We're waiting....

    http://www.teenvogue.com/story/ivank...onesia-vietnam

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ivanka-t...mily-business/

    http://www.businessinsider.com/ivank...ng-kong-2017-2

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.5dd78353b6c0

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...-a7153376.html

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donal...ry?id=37502012

    This strangely named site has pictures taken in some of the shops making Ivanka clothing.

    http://www.scarymommy.com/here-are-s...hoes-are-made/

    The ball is in your court Hobbytime.
    what are you trying to prove? it was never at dispute that Trump and Ivankas clothes are made out of this country..just that due to trade agreements much of the clothing sold here has tobe made elsewhere..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zimm View Post
    Criminals? You mean like people who conspire with foreign governments to swing an election? Or do you mean people who cheat their investors out of money? Of do you mean people who short pay their contractors? Or do you mean people who operate sham "universities" to swindle people?

    What brand of criminals you mean? There are lots.
    more like the ones that have a clinton foundation that takes millions in bribes from foreign countries to sell out the USA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbytime View Post
    more like the ones that have a clinton foundation that takes millions in bribes from foreign countries to sell out the USA
    Got a credible source for that? Nope. No charges ever filed. How many times has Trump been sued?

    Clinton should be demanding that charges be brought so she has a chance to defend in a real court, not the nonsense court of the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbytime View Post
    more like the ones that have a clinton foundation that takes millions in bribes from foreign countries to sell out the USA
    Add criminals who commit sexual assault, especially those who brag about it. Would you leave your daughter alone with Trump?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zimm View Post
    Add criminals who commit sexual assault, especially those who brag about it. Would you leave your daughter alone with Trump?
    I have no problem leaving my daughter with Trump..show me the charges against him for anything sexual???? show me any criminal charges brought against Trump himself...

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    I wouldn't leave a plant alone with Bill Clinton.
    Remember how Bill Clinton lost his law license ?
    Or do you remember his trips the to Pedophile Island ?
    Or Hillarys trips to the island.
    Jeffrey Epstein was probably the least disgusting one of the three.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zimm View Post
    Clinton should be demanding that charges be brought so she has a chance to defend in a real court, not the nonsense court of the internet.
    And if she was really innocent she probably would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbytime View Post
    ok and how about the hundreds of businesses he has opened and are successful ? as the article stated 3 of the 4 were casino related businesses that followed the downfall of the gaming industry...and the businesses did not go out of business but were chapter 11 reorganizations ..the USA needs to go file for bankruptcy and help wipe out all the dept...
    I didnt know The Apprentice was such a HUGE success. Sounds like an un productive waste of time. Hire someone to tell them your fired on TV. Am I missing something? You a big fan Hobbytime?

    There was a downfall in the gaming industry? The casinos where I live (Nevada) thrive during good times/bad times as do other sinful things like alcohol and cigarettes. Casinos here are constantly remodeling and up grading machines. While making my recent Super Bowl bet; I saw a ZOMBIE slot machine that had about 8 monitors, a custom seat, a payout in the tens of thousands and linked to other ZOMBIE machines so they can gamble together. I guess TRUMP isnt qualified to run a casino. Lets pray and hope he does better for our country.

    BTW, I lost on my parlay Super bowl bet but walked out with an extra $30 from a slot machine. I dont think that casino is filing bankrupt anytime soon. And they give away free beer all day every day.

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    In all seriousness,
    I don't think Donald J Trump is mentally stable.




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    I think we all know the liberal radicals, way too many to mention, are all off thier rockers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John T View Post
    In all seriousness,
    I don't think Donald J Trump is mentally stable.
    Coming from a guy who's avatar shows him sticking a knife in a wall outlet!

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    Listen I voted for Trump
    But at this point I'm almost having voting remorse.

    His cabinet pics are very troubling. Especially environmental.

    But as far as his mental state ...
    yesterday's press conference was unprecedented...
    I don't think he completed one clear thought
    Rambling answers and whining about the press
    His treatment to a couple of the reporters was appalling

    He takes everything as a personal attack.
    He doesn't know the first thing about being a considerate mature adult
    Never mind trying to be anything close to presidential and show a good example for our young children of the country.

    I predict this whole sh*t show will end very badly.

    But I pray it doesn't.




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    Sh*t show is very descriptive. And none of us can just turn it off and walk away. We are in for duration, like it of not.

    As much as people disliked Obama, he at least conducted himself with dignity. People didn't think GW Bush was a bright guy, but he worked hard at projecting a positive image of the Presidency. Nixon was an outright crook, but did acheive foreign policy successes.

    The current guy? Can't or won't express a cogent thought. I suspect there will be a lot more votor remorse as time goes on.

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    LOL..you guys crack me up, you still listen to the media like they are telling the truth...after 1 1/2 years of the media blitzing Trump any way they can during the campaign, you think they changed their tune because he won??
    they are still lying through their teeth and the same idiots that believed all the polls showing hillbager winning are still eating up whatever the media throws against the wall..enjoy your sh-t sandwich compliments of the media...for an example, the stock market doesnt like the unkown or unstable situations, so the stock market is at its highest it has ever been since trump got elected, so people way smarted than use in the financial industry sees whatever Trump is doing as a positive thing...but you can believe what you want, its a free country,,alot freer now for the working class and American citizens since Trump got elected...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbytime View Post
    LOL..you guys crack me up, you still listen to the media like they are telling the truth...after 1 1/2 years of the media blitzing Trump any way they can during the campaign, you think they changed their tune because he won??
    they are still lying through their teeth and the same idiots that believed all the polls showing hillbager winning are still eating up whatever the media throws against the wall..enjoy your sh-t sandwich compliments of the media...for an example, the stock market doesnt like the unkown or unstable situations, so the stock market is at its highest it has ever been since trump got elected, so people way smarted than use in the financial industry sees whatever Trump is doing as a positive thing...but you can believe what you want, its a free country,,alot freer now for the working class and American citizens since Trump got elected...
    I have no idea what you're talking about.
    My opinion has absolutely ZERO to do with what the media reports.

    My opinion is based solely on president trumps actions since he has been in office.

    It seems that it's a very popular thing nowadays to blame the media
    With trump leading the charge.

    While sidestepping the actual legitimate questions that most Americans want the answers to.

    Zimm hit the nail on the head with the word "dignity"
    Trump has none.
    It's downright embarrassing.

    As far as the working class doing better
    That has yet to be seen
    His economic plan if it goes through as it is right now Will have consumers paying more.
    Also
    Relaxing coal regulations Will do very little in the long term as far as job creation.
    The country is moving away from coal Energy whether the coal plants re-open or not
    That is a fact.

    Trumps biggest problem is he can't shut his mouth
    Every time he opens it he says something stupid.
    Then someone from his cabinet needs to explain to the other countries and smooth things over.
    It is most definitely a sh*t show.




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    The stock market is a surprise, but is following the belief that there will be a more positive business climate. The market tends to buy on perception, and sell on fact. My thinking is there will be a blow out in the market due to the failure of the Trump adminstration to run the government in any logical way to benefit anyone other than the billionaire class.

    It won't be much longer before the investors realize the Emporer has no clothes. When Congress actually investigates and starts unraveling the issues, its not going to be pretty. There are reports today that 6 White House staffers failed FBI background checks and are out. Credible, experienced, public servants are declining to serve this administration, although they are desparately needed.

    None of this will be good for any of us.

    John T is right in that Trump would do himself a great service by simply shutting up. Given his history, however, I don't believe he is capable of doing so. He has some compulsion to keep talking even though he is making things worse for himself (and all of us) every time he opens his mouth. He appears to think he is some great communicator in the Reagan sense, when the exact opposite is the truth.

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    regarding Trump and the media, it seems the media has a lower approval rating than congress. That's pretty sad when businesses rank lower than congress.
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    One thing I have learned from this thread is FACTS DON'T MATTER

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zimm View Post
    It won't be much longer before the investors realize the Emporer has no clothes. When Congress actually investigates and starts unraveling the issues, its not going to be pretty. There are reports today that 6 White House staffers failed FBI background checks and are out. Credible, experienced, public servants are declining to serve this administration, although they are desparately needed.
    Probably low lever clerical/secretarial positions to youngsters with bad credit scores and/or a history of substance abuse.

    Here are a few of Obama's higher level misfits in 2009. Source: http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-bl...ees-sen-demint

    Below is the “Top 10” list of President Obama’s nominees and appointees who have resigned in disgrace.

    1. Obama’s nominee to chair the National Intelligence Council, Chas Freeman, withdrew over questions about payments from the Saudi Arabian government, business ties to the state-owned China National Offshore Oil Corp., and negative statements he made about U.S. support for Israel. After he resigned he issued a combative public statement blaming the “Israel lobby” for “character assassination.” 



    2. White House “Green Jobs” czar Van Jones resigned after he it was discovered he signed a statement in support of a 9/11 “Truther” group.
    


    3. Former Sen. Tom Daschle (D-South Dakota) withdrew his nomination to become Health and Human Services Secretary after it was discovered he failed to properly pay his taxes.
    


    4. Nancy Killefer, Obama’s nominee to serve as the government’s chief performance officer, withdrew due to tax problems.

    

5. Governor Bill Richardson (D-New Mexico) withdrew his nomination to become Commerce Secretary because of an ongoing investigation into whether he doled out government contracts in exchange for campaign money.
    


    6. White House Social Secretary Desiree Rogers resigned after posing for photos at a White House dinner that a couple crashed through security to attend.

    

7. Jonathan Z. Cannon, nominated to serve as deputy director at the Environmental Protection Administration, withdrew over questions about a defunct non-profit, America’s Clean Water Foundation, where he served as a board member. In 2007, EPA auditors accused the non-profit of mismanaging $25 million in taxpayer funding.

    

8. Jide Zeitlin, Obama’s nominee to serve as U.S ambassador to the United Nations for management and reform withdrew his name while being accused of identify fraud and improper business practices.
    


    9. Erroll Southers, Obama’s nominee to serve as director of the Travel Security Administration, withdrew after refusing to answer questions about collective bargaining and false testimony he presented to Congress.

    

10. Maj. Gen. Robert A. Harding, Obama’s second nominee to service as director of the Travel Security Administration, withdrew his name after it was discovered he received “service disabled veteran” status for sleep apnea.
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    Well, Trump is losing people a month in. Says a lot about is executive ability that he picks losers.

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    Trump doesn't have much finesse for sure, doesn't project himself well at all. I'm not as sure as some that that is a bad thing. He communicates more like the folks who voted for him than he does the elite who want him out. The U.S., Europe, the global ruling class is steeped in classism, even those being ruled seem to want their leaders to somehow convince them a chit sandwich with a strawberry is a strawberry sandwich. That's all a good vocabulary gets you, a chit sandwich described in a pleasing way. Trump can't do that for sure. If you hate Trump, just be honest as say you hate Trump rather than all the endless rants on how he states things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zimm View Post
    Well, Trump is losing people a month in. Says a lot about is executive ability that he picks losers.

    I think that it says a lot more about the people that were left in the White House by the previous administration.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zimm View Post
    There are reports today that 6 White House staffers failed FBI background checks and are out.
    That's some serious charges, if true. Career ending at the very least and possibly felony criminal charges. Unlike some of the Trump haters, I'll wait and see if this turns out to be true and also find out if they were Trump hires or hired by a previous administration.

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