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  1. #1
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    Tsc Hobart Champion Elite

    Looking for back-up power for house and occasional
    portable stick welding capability. Need electric start,
    don’t need CV. EFI would be nice but I can run engine
    periodically to keep carb unschmegged.Tractor supply
    has the Champion Elite for $3000+,which is much less
    than Bobcat 250 at LWS.
    Anyone have experience with the Hobart?
    Any opinions, good or bad?
    Miller a/c-d/c Thunderbolt XL
    Millermatic 180
    Purox O/A
    Smith Littletorch O/A
    Hobart Champion Elite

  2. #2
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    Re: Tsc Hobart Champion Elite

    It is just a Bobcat 225 but without the CV for wire feed welding. Made by Miller and 95+% of the parts are the same as the Bobcat 225. I think all the included inner parts are the same. Just missing a couple CV-related parts. They don't include the little oil tube extension in the Hobart anymore. Saved a few bucks.
    I had 2 Hobart 210MVP's and ran the daylights out of them. Currently I don't have an engine drive or little MIG, so no Hobarts.

  3. #3
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    Re: Tsc Hobart Champion Elite

    I've been kicking this around for quite some time myself. I'm wondering how favorably it compares with the Lincoln Eagle 1OK. Also, will burning rods with it at max amps be sufficient load testing to ensure it will keep ready for supplying power, or will it be somewhat necessary to also run the outlets w/ grinders etc to pull current through them too?

  4. #4
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    Re: Tsc Hobart Champion Elite

    I personally would feel comfortable just running the engine
    from time to time in order to keep carb clean.


    I’ll have to look at Lincoln Eagle.
    I saw only Outback and Ranger.
    Miller a/c-d/c Thunderbolt XL
    Millermatic 180
    Purox O/A
    Smith Littletorch O/A
    Hobart Champion Elite

  5. #5
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    Re: Tsc Hobart Champion Elite

    Eagle looks pretty similar to Champion.
    Looks like same engine.
    Miller a/c-d/c Thunderbolt XL
    Millermatic 180
    Purox O/A
    Smith Littletorch O/A
    Hobart Champion Elite

  6. #6
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    Re: Tsc Hobart Champion Elite

    I'd go download the owner's manual for the machine to see what they have to say about running it with no load. Most, if not all, of the older RV and commercial generators were not intended or recommended to be run for any length of time with light loads or no load. Doing so would cause an excess of carbon build up in the head and on the valves/pistons. I'd have to look through my Onan manuals to see what their specific recommendations were, but I'd say loading it to 50%(generator portion) for a half hour or an hour every couple of months should be sufficient. A couple of electric space heaters is what most people use to load them. Then burn a few rods after moving the coarse, fine adjust, and polarity selectors through their full range. The contacts will probably oxidize and moving the selectors will help keep them clean. Use ethanol free gas and a stabilizer for best results.

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    Re: Tsc Hobart Champion Elite

    I was under the impression I could run it long enough to charge
    the battery, and move some fuel through the carb without having
    to put a load on the engine. It’s been suggested to me
    (by Machinisttx and others)that that’s not a good idea.
    Miller a/c-d/c Thunderbolt XL
    Millermatic 180
    Purox O/A
    Smith Littletorch O/A
    Hobart Champion Elite

  8. #8
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    Re: Tsc Hobart Champion Elite

    The champion is a dumbed down 225 bobcat.
    They come with the 23hp Kohler engine. Same engine that Lincoln uses and same engine in the 250 bobcat and 325 trailblazer.
    Jason
    Lincoln Idealarc 250 stick/tig
    Thermal Dynamics Cutmaster 52
    Miller Bobcat 250
    Torchmate CNC table
    Thermal Arc Hefty 2
    Ironworkers Local 720

  9. #9
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    Re: Tsc Hobart Champion Elite

    If you can find ethanol free gas for things you use very infrequently you can let them sit for a very long time and the gas won't give you any problems. carbs won't get gummed up either. Theres a gas station about 20 miles from me that pumps it like normal gas. its around 60 cents higher than 97 octane with ethanol. I know a place in Bastrop Tx that does that too or at least they did when I was there.

  10. #10
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    Re: Tsc Hobart Champion Elite

    I’m running regular pump gas and Sta-bil in my
    new Champion. I plan on running it every week
    or so to keep the battery charged. I should be
    able to use at least a tank of fuel every few
    months by welding.
    Miller a/c-d/c Thunderbolt XL
    Millermatic 180
    Purox O/A
    Smith Littletorch O/A
    Hobart Champion Elite

  11. #11
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    Re: Tsc Hobart Champion Elite

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrapman Industries View Post
    If you can find ethanol free gas for things you use very infrequently you can let them sit for a very long time and the gas won't give you any problems. carbs won't get gummed up either. Theres a gas station about 20 miles from me that pumps it like normal gas. its around 60 cents higher than 97 octane with ethanol. I know a place in Bastrop Tx that does that too or at least they did when I was there.
    Just recently a local station added Eth free to 2 of their pumps. Before that I was using seafoam in the gas for storage. I let a Honda powered 2" pump sit for two years after running the carb out, Needed it 2 weeks ago and just grabbed it... Got to the field and then it hit me how long it had been sitting, Gas in the tank smelled ok so I open the gas valve and set the choke... It fired on the first pull! and ran fine. Now all my small engines are on Eth free with a small snort of Seafoam.

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