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  1. #76
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    Re: Cutting 6x6 tubing, hiring help

    I get the lagistics of having to move a 6x6 tub in and out of a band saw. I would probably do the first 45 cut or 2 on the ground until it was easy for one guy to handle then use the saw for the rest. Cut off wheels are expensive and I bet it would take at least 2- 6" wheels to make one 45% cut but even if its only one thats like $3 a cut. Those tubs are 24ft if I calculated the lengths I needed and cut it into 2-4 pieces I would probably have an inch or so wast on a piece but overall it would be faster/ cost effiecent in a band saw. I have cut 45's with a plasma and it would not be my first choice unless I made a jig. Then it would only be worth it if I had a lot of cuts. With that said I could free hand a 45 cut with a plasma and be within 1/8" no problem as long as I had a line to follow. I hate grinding so to me a saw is better and faster if you include all clean up needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalMan23 View Post
    My thoughts exactly
    I ran in to some guys welding a new water tank,they were breaking for lunch and I asked then if they were using a wire feeder he said no they were burning 200+# of 1/4" rod .tank was 2" of more thick

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    Re: Cutting 6x6 tubing, hiring help

    Old school water tank building co...... Most up to date tank builders use flux-core with a feeder.....usually with a Bugo - Track......

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    Moving 6x6 tubing around the shop isn't easy, putting then up on horses, dealing with the drop, that's why I wanted to cut them with the plasma, I have to finish these tomorrow by myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalMan23 View Post
    Moving 6x6 tubing around the shop isn't easy, putting then up on horses, dealing with the drop, that's why I wanted to cut them with the plasma, I have to finish these tomorrow by myself.
    It is when u are setup right,you need build one of these.This is not the wood business stuff gets heavy REAL fast.This will lift around 1800lbs,it swings out my front bay door.And as u can see my Tb300d can be loaded, unloaded fast into my 350UB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by admswelding View Post
    My saw is setup in shop ready to go just push on button.And your not gonna beat it with a 6" wheel.LOL
    Right on...
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    Quote Originally Posted by admswelding View Post
    It is when u are setup right,you need build one of these.This is not the wood business stuff gets heavy REAL fast.This will lift around 1800lbs,it swings out my front bay door.And as u can see my Tb300d can be loaded, unloaded fast into my 350UB.
    Apparently I'm not set up right, forgive me

    My bandsaw cannot cut 6x6 at 45 degrees

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalMan23 View Post
    Apparently I'm not set up right, forgive me

    My bandsaw cannot cut 6x6 at 45 degrees
    I just gave u the design and pic,now get on it!!

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    About 5 minutes worth of plasma cutting, and this is what I get, I'll need to touch it up with a grinder a little but it's pretty darn good, that's what I was looking for. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...e177cca28b.jpg

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    Re: Cutting 6x6 tubing, hiring help

    If a perspective employee takes a measurement and says, 26" and 5 lines you're in trouble.

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    I knew a guy that couldn't read a tape so he would just keep his thumb on the tape at the spot he measured and walk over and transfer the mark where his thumb was at onto what he was cutting, It worked great untill the peice was more than the width of his arms length.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalMan23 View Post
    Apparently I'm not set up right, forgive me

    My bandsaw cannot cut 6x6 at 45 degrees
    In the past I made 45 degree jig for band saw. It was faster than resetting band from 90 to 45 degree cuts .
    Any use jig for 45 degree and it was right every time.
    As tape goes the worse was 120" and 12 ' I do not know how many time a employees would make cut for 120" when I had 12 feet on the cut list or need cut 12 feet at 120 inches.

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    PS: Just try making left and right hand parts . It was worse so bad when left and right hand came up I had to go shop and mark all parts on how to make part
    I have do marking 3,000 parts so done right

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    Re: Cutting 6x6 tubing, hiring help

    Quote Originally Posted by smithdoor View Post
    In the past I made 45 degree jig for band saw. It was faster than resetting band from 90 to 45 degree cuts .
    Any use jig for 45 degree and it was right every time.
    As tape goes the worse was 120" and 12 ' I do not know how many time a employees would make cut for 120" when I had 12 feet on the cut list or need cut 12 feet at 120 inches.

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    Re: Cutting 6x6 tubing, hiring help

    I went thru this a lot while hiring weldors and machinists. It took a long time for the truth to sink in. While you are trying to coax adequate performance from an inadequate employee, you are missing out on the possibility of hiring an adequate (or better) employee. Don't waste time, cut him loose. My "keepers" (long term employees) started keeping a list of the quick turnovers. It ran over 100 in the twelve years before I "retired". I'd guess maybe one in twenty was a "keeper". You have to kiss a lot of frogs.....
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    Re: Cutting 6x6 tubing, hiring help

    Quote Originally Posted by bassboy1 View Post
    Feet have no place in a fab shop. List/say/measure all dimensions in inches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bassboy1 View Post
    Feet have no place in a fab shop. List/say/measure all dimensions in inches.
    Feet and inches on the tape
    Good luck and some drawings come with feet and inches all was inches only but still there is tape.
    Now to find a tape with just inches

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    Re: Cutting 6x6 tubing, hiring help

    Sent some CAD drawings in inches only to an architect. Architect sent them back in feet and inches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tapwelder View Post
    Sent some CAD drawings in inches only to an architect. Architect sent them back in feet and inches.
    Back 30 year ago Most drawings where in feet and inches.

    All drawings father did was feet and inches, it onle took me 20 years to have my father make shop drawings in inches.

    I ever received drawings in metrics

    My self I can work in just inches or feet and inches.
    I do like just inches

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