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    Re: I'm gonna build a garage.

    But like already mentioned make sure if u do infloor heat to insulate ur perimeter of ur concrete. My current shop is a pole building. I laid the 2” high density foam down and then had them come spray the wall foam down to the foam under the concrete. Worked awesome!


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    Watch this entertaining series you may pick up a few ideas.


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    Re: I'm gonna build a garage.

    Again, thanks for all the info guys. I would really like the 12' ceiling, but I'll have to see how the quotes come in. I'm afraid that if I go with the radiant heat AND 12' ceilings, I may have to cut the size to 30x40. And I really don't want to do that. But we'll see.

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    Re: I'm gonna build a garage.

    Quote Originally Posted by LMH Steel View Post
    Are you building metal or wood structure?
    Wood. At least that's the plan. Although my neighbor got a smoking deal on his metal garage. So if I can get the size I want, heat I want and include the lift for the same price, I may go metal.

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    Re: I'm gonna build a garage.

    Quote Originally Posted by derekpfeiffer View Post
    If you need any questions answered on in floor heat I built my current 2880sq ft shop in 2011 and did the entire heating system myself. Absolutely LOVE it!! I’m currently getting pricing on 8000sqft all steel building packages with 20ft sidewalls. If you have questions I’d be happy to help. I’ve helped several people with theirs since building mine and they all work fantastic!!

    Best of luck. Nothing more exciting than building a new shop!!


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    Thank you Sir, I'll keep that in mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_J View Post
    Again, thanks for all the info guys. I would really like the 12' ceiling, but I'll have to see how the quotes come in. I'm afraid that if I go with the radiant heat AND 12' ceilings, I may have to cut the size to 30x40. And I really don't want to do that. But we'll see.
    Height on a building is very reasonable


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    Re: I'm gonna build a garage.

    I have a 42x60 welding Fab shop with metal trusses and 12' sides. It works well with an open span, but with trusses that would suck

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    Re: I'm gonna build a garage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_J View Post

    I know 10' is on the low side for a lift, but I think I am going to plan for a 2 post lift.
    10 feet is way too low for a lift. I built a shop with 12ft walls and scissor trusses and it was barely high enough.

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    Re: I'm gonna build a garage.

    Go to Greg smith equipment web site they sell lifts nation wide has specs for all different ones. 10 foot clearance may not be enough for any and if you want 10000 lb capacity it ont fit 12 to 14 is the normal
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    Re: I'm gonna build a garage.

    One option that I have not seen mentioned is to use a scissor truss design. You will need at least 12’ of clearance for a 2 post lift (I have one in a 12’ tall shop and it barely clears).

    If you don’t want to change the wall height you can use a scissor truss and put the lift towards the center of the span. A scissor truss on a 10’ wall will have around 13’ or so of clearance in the middle.

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    Re: I'm gonna build a garage.

    I will bookmark this thread. Great ideas
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    You find low cost building kits almost cheep you buy the steel.
    Today I have small welding carport 10 x 12 just backup the truck and start welding
    In CA I can build a carport with permit up to 120 sqft but no limit to number building/carports at 120 SQFT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_J View Post
    Here is my plan...30x50 10' walls in Central PA. I am planning on the front half (30x25) as auto work space, and split the back half between a metal working/welding set up and wood working shop.

    I know 10' is on the low side for a lift, but I think I am going to plan for a 2 post lift.

    I doubt I will be in it daily thru the winter, and am struggling with the idea of heating it all the time. I'm thinking about keeping it at 45 or 50 and just bump it up if I am going to be in there working. I'm looking for opinions on radiant vs hot air. Unfortunately I don't have natural gas available, so I would be burning propane (current house heat), or electric if radiant.

    Anyone have any recommendations?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scsmith42 View Post
    One option that I have not seen mentioned is to use a scissor truss design. You will need at least 12’ of clearance for a 2 post lift (I have one in a 12’ tall shop and it barely clears).

    If you don’t want to change the wall height you can use a scissor truss and put the lift towards the center of the span. A scissor truss on a 10’ wall will have around 13’ or so of clearance in the middle.

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    do those scissor trusses have the same snow load as standard trusses? central pa gets some decent snow the roof will have to support...the standard trusses I can space 4ft apart for heavy snow load, it may be cheaper to go higher side walls than more trusses if they cant hold the load..and need 2ft spacing..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbytime View Post
    do those scissor trusses have the same snow load as standard trusses? central pa gets some decent snow the roof will have to support...the standard trusses I can space 4ft apart for heavy snow load, it may be cheaper to go higher side walls than more trusses if they cant hold the load..and need 2ft spacing..
    It all depends upon the truss engineering. With a 30' span, most likely scissor trusses made from 2x6 would be able to carry the load w/o a problem.
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    Re: I'm gonna build a garage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_J View Post
    Again, thanks for all the info guys. I would really like the 12' ceiling, but I'll have to see how the quotes come in. I'm afraid that if I go with the radiant heat AND 12' ceilings, I may have to cut the size to 30x40. And I really don't want to do that. But we'll see.
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    Re: I'm gonna build a garage.

    Twelve foot sidewalls and scissor trusses. Lower outside look, higher ceiling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_J View Post
    I know 10' is on the low side for a lift, but I think I am going to plan for a 2 post lift.
    I would decide on the lift I wanted and match the sidewall height to that. I recently built a shop with 14' sidewalls. The lift I installed requires 13'9". I researched a lot before buying because there are some cheap China lifts around and I did not want one. The one I installed is the same brand used by our local Chevrolet dealer and they had good things to say about them. I went with a 12,000# capacity, as pickups keep getting heavier and I didn't want to be working near capacity. Having a lift is almost as good as winning the lottery!

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    Re: I'm gonna build a garage.

    I second almost all the ideas here. Having adequate lighting seems to be lacking in most of the shops I've seen, be sure to have plenty.

    Have you considered running the PEX loops even if you don't use them right off? This way if you initially go the warm air route and decide for whatever reason it doesn't work for you the radiant option is still there for you. I had a 6" 4000 psi slab with #4 2' OC bars both ways and 5 zones of radiant heat because I thought my arthritis and circulatory condition would like it, it turned out to be so comfortable that every time I laid on the creeper I would fall asleep! I eventually only left the zone on at the benches.

    Maybe in the front half at the OH doors go with scissor trusses for the height issue and use attic trusses in the back half, if I remember it works out to be about $3/SF... that is some cheap floor space.

    There have been some good threads on this subject, have you reviewed those?
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    Re: I'm gonna build a garage.

    Mentioned already many times but a valid point, 10 foot is too low for a lift. I would also reconsider the welding/fab in with the wood working, sparks and dry saw dust don't mix very well. I would most certainly lay the pex in the floor even if radiant isn't an option for a while.

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    Ok I don't own am RV and probably never will, but I'm thinking resale value 14' walls gets most RV's inside.
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    This is my lift in my shop with 14' sidewalls. I also have a John Deere 4440 tractor and it needs 11' to pass through, so one door is 14' wide and 12' high. I lined it with white metal to help with lighting and also to help it to be fire resistant. Don't spare the lights and electrical receptacles! I also have two commercial grade ceiling fans that help keep the warm air down where it needs to be in the winter.
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    Why would you even consider wood when welding will be done inside? Metal is cheaper, won't rot, bugs can't eat it and has high wind loads.

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