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    Shop lighting

    I have been procrastinating on changing out my old mh lights I have 9 of them in a 40x50 18' wall shop and they are getting so dim Im wering a head lamp when im doing anthing that involves actually seeing what im doing. l guess middle age is playing a part to I purchased a led light from supiorior lighting and Am totallyimpressed with it so far its 25000 lumens and it noticably brighter than the 2 mh lights in the same row I have actually only turned on 1 row oflights when in there rather than all three when going in there and can still see its amazing! Now im curious these are 240.00 each and Im trying to understand life spans anyone have newer leds and how long they last? Or is it kind of like a tire that will go a 100000 miles. im start replacing them one a month until ther done ..but just trying to get some been ther done that info
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    Re: Shop lighting

    I am looking for some replacement lights for in my shop, can you post a picture or two showing the lights and the difference between your old and new lights? Also info on the new light? I know anywhere i have replaced small lights over the last couple of years it has been with leds and so far they are lasting. I have a couple of marine customers that have put them on the decks of work boats and ocean going tugs and they are all pleased with how they are holding up.
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    I now its not a straight up comparison because I got that section of wall sheeted but here is a couple of photos but here is what it is these are the 200 watt 2x4 http://www.superiorlighting.com/LED_...FQ5EfgodSUIAgA
    I also looked online for any coupons they were running and saved 10% the first light the second one I just ordered only 5%
    I was going to go with the 320 watt ones but I figured for the price difference I could run an angle bank of 3 15' up wall and be at the same lighting with less shadow
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    you will not go wrong with LEDs. Not only do they put out a LOT more light ... they use a LOT less energy to do it. I am familiar with the old Metal Halide lights and i would venture a guess that 10 of the LED fixtures will pull less than one of two of those Halide lamps. not to mention the LEDs wont radiate heat like the Halides do.

    We just changed out all of our fluorescent lights (15) at the shop with 10 LED UFO fixtures and the difference is amazing. We spent a few hours playing with placement (well worth the time invested) to get optimum coverage.

    They should outlast the metal halide lamps 3x over with zero maintenance ... same as our fluorescent lamps. I also have some LED lights in my home garage. I wont go back. The low power consumption plus zero heat, zero maintenance, and the life span easily offsets the price difference.

    The website you listed states 50,000 hour lifespan which seems conservative against other claims of longer lifespans ...

    50,000 at 70 hours a week is 714 weeks .... or 13.5 years.
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    Re: Shop lighting

    Thanks, how tall is your ceiling?
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    Re: Shop lighting

    Im planning on going back in with at least 9 of these because my sight is not going to get better as I get older but they are 200 watt versus 460 or so save about $7.00 per day when I forget to turn them off at night and if I need to I will put in a angle set Im going so blind its annoying leightrepairs 18'
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    Re: Shop lighting


    idacal


    Your ceiling may be tall enough to allow this
    product - and they are in your neighborhood.

    https://www.simplyleds.com/


    Opus

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    Re: Shop lighting

    You may want to check with your utility company on any replacement fixtures that will use less energy. Local power supplier had programs offered where they bought the fixtures and you supplied the labor to install or vise versa. Wouldn't hurt to research.

    I bought the inexpensive LED 4' shop lights from Costco . Amazing brightness for the $20 to $25 price. Best feature is that work in cold cold temperature and no noise. I removed two four bulb fluorescent fixtures and replaced with two two bulb LED and they were considerably brighter. I did the garage first with 10' walls first and could not believe the difference. The newer models have a pull chain too and can be daisy chained together , fixture to fixture.

    I don't know if this would be acceptable for your application but maybe get one and test. Here's the post from GARAGEJOURNAL about the fixtures when they just hit the market. .
    https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/...d.php?t=270879

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    i got these mh lights through one of those programs these were take downs that were being sold on craigslsit for25.00 each and I needed light that I could afford at the time. but now I want to be able to see again. I havent checked to see if there is any rebates available last time I checked locLly they had to be professionlly installed so the cost was way up there each
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    Re: Shop lighting

    The white walls will reflect 85% ish of the light - so well worth it
    "free light" once it's done.


    with zero maintenance ... same as our fluorescent lamps.
    Fluorescent lamps shouldn't have zero maintenance.

    Tubes lose up to half their output in the first year

    If you have tubes it's worth replacing them every year-plus fresh tubes seem to hep ballasts last longer

    If you compare new LED's to the old Fluroscents you took out then yes the new ones will be brighter.
    It's harder to compare new to new


    Most of that data comes from the pot growers - they have put in the research on lighting

    I notice that I like light in the 6500K range - that's the blueish tint "daylight" lamps

    I'm still waiting on LED's for the costs on the really big ones to come down.

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    Re: Shop lighting

    I got these 4 foot LED lights from costco and sam's club. Sometimes on sale for $25 or $30 but worth every penny. I have 5 and want to add another

    https://www.samsclub.com/sams/linkab...lp:product:1:4

    Best part for me about LED lights in addition to the low cost, light weight is that when I am in the shop at night with the doors open the bugs don't swarm around the lights. The neighbor has a lot of florescent bulbs in his garage and bugs are everywhere
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    Re: Shop lighting

    I have CFL's in my shop while they are not LED they do use less than a quarter of the watts my MH lights use. I have had them for 5 years and had two bulbs fail out of 68.

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