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  1. #26
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    Re: quick electrical question?

    Quote Originally Posted by dbstoo View Post

    If I can put in a 50 amp circuit 2 feet from the breaker box in 60 minutes, an electrician should be able to do the same.

    And most people think that's all they should have to pay for. They don't think about the time and money it takes to procure and stock inventory so it's always there on the truck, the time and money it takes to operate a business vehicle and drive it to and from the job. the time it takes to keep current on the ever changing codes, the time and money it takes for the book keeping, the money for the liability insurance and the contracting license, the cost of employees etc etc. That's why we have to have minimum charges or we might as well just go work for someone else.
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  2. #27
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    Re: quick electrical question?

    I think we lose sight of true "cost". Bigb makes some great points, the cost to run a business is different than a weekend warrior adding a circuit to his box. I encourage people learning and doing there own work. I also encourage businesses to not feel bad about making a living and having a good job. What I don't care for is people, nickle and dimming me. I don't care for management making huge profits of the backs of labourers. I don't care for large corporations lobbying for regulations that create monopolies and hurt small businesses! I digress.

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    Re: quick electrical question?

    Go out to the garage, look things over, figure out all the parts ya need right down to the star washer, run into town to gather up all the materials, go back home and get all the right tools out and ready, install the receptacle test and clean up. That's not 60 minutes.

    I don't know how an electrician (or plumber) could even make a living doing little one offs for the general public.

    Just imagine,,,, instead of going to work tomorrow,,, drive around giving free advice to people who want little projects done. Tell 'em what parts they need & how it should be done. Hand shake and move on to the next.
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  4. #29
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    Re: quick electrical question?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandy View Post
    Go out to the garage, look things over, figure out all the parts ya need right down to the star washer, run into town to gather up all the materials, go back home and get all the right tools out and ready, install the receptacle test and clean up. That's not 60 minutes.
    There are many ways to look at it. When I consulted for a living I charged enough to cover the 1 month out of 4 when I was not working. I expect an electrician to do the same. So I'll pay $100 an hour for skilled labor. I will pay the trip fee. What I will not pay is 4 hours labor for something he should be able to do in one.

    As I tell my friends when they ask for my help; I only charge 1/4 union rates, but I work 10 times slower.
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  5. #30
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    Re: quick electrical question?

    I might be best off just using extension cords from my dryer or hot water heater hookup at this rate. Looks like it's going to be a heck of a lot less expensive and less complicated and all I have to do is wait on delivery of the cord.
    Last edited by yellowfin; 09-03-2017 at 11:27 PM.
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  6. #31
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    Re: quick electrical question?

    It doesn't matter what a wire is rated 60°, 75° or 90° once you terminate in a 60° breaker/lug the entire system becomes 60° and that is the chart you have to use for the wire ampacity rating. If all components aren't the same temperature the lowest rated will be what prevails.

    Since it is only going two feet and the welder has a duty cycle #10 as mentioned would suffice but since it is two feet use #6 and you will have what you need if you should eve need to upgrade. There is $3 cost difference most likely it a 6' piece you would need.

  7. #32
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    Re: quick electrical question?

    Quote Originally Posted by yellowfin View Post
    I might be best off just using extension cords from my dryer or hot water heater hookup at this rate. Looks like it's going to be a heck of a lot less expensive and less complicated and all I have to do is wait on delivery of the cord.
    If your tying into the hot water heater you should be able to run a line and outlet off your panel. Post pictures and I can try and help. You might want a cord as well, but they are not cheap.

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    Re: quick electrical question?

    There is never short electrical questions because that would be a short circuit!
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