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  1. #1
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    Remaking a '46 short hood

    I know there are a lot of members out there that have upgraded early model short hoods by using compound exciters, exciter armatures and coils from later model short hoods. However, I did not have a later model short hood machine from which to rob these parts. The purpose of this post is to describe my journey with this old short hood. I will also post pictures as I tell the tale. I purchased this machine about five years ago from a farmer near Coyle, Oklahoma. My first mistake was having no knowledge of short hoods in general and this '46 model in particular. These are the beginning photos. The welder was known as 2G-2. The narrative will continue with subsequent posts along with progress photos.
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    Re: Remaking a '46 short hood

    As I started the disassembly process I noticed there was no hole in the backing plate for a starter. It was not until I attempted to separate the engine from the generator that I learned what a Lord bushing and pin coupling was and how difficult it is to separate after 71 years. All you old Pros have to be laughing by now. When I finally manage to uncouple the coupling there was more horror to be seen, a flywheel without a ring gear! To be continued...Name:  Hand crank no starter or hole for one.jpg
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    Re: Remaking a '46 short hood

    Hehehe🤣! Better join the gym and get those muscles in shape to turn that there hand crank that I hope came with your machine. I do look forward to your machines progress! Good luck


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    Re: Remaking a '46 short hood

    In the 1970s, I used a hand crank SA-200 for several weeks. I was amazed how easy it started. I used my foot to push on the hand crank. I think the SA-200s with a starter, turn to fast. Mine take longer to start, than that hand crank did.
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    Re: Remaking a '46 short hood

    WoW! That Short Hood looks all original. That's the first time I've seen an oiler cup going too the Armature bearing, and the brush cover is notched out for it to. It's well worth the effort to get it back to like new condition.
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    Re: Remaking a '46 short hood

    Quote Originally Posted by CEP View Post
    In the 1970s, I used a hand crank SA-200 for several weeks. I was amazed how easy it started. I used my foot to push on the hand crank. I think the SA-200s with a starter, turn to fast. Mine take longer to start, than that hand crank did.
    Yep, if they were in good tune... 4 turns with the mag off and full choke, set'er up on compression, mag on and give it a tug... off we go. Easy peasy.

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    Re: Remaking a '46 short hood

    I have a flywheel with starter ring and backing plate with starter hole if you need one for that machine. W.B.

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    Re: Remaking a '46 short hood

    My next step was to exercise a little urban renewal. I had to clean out and tear down the old neighborhood. Too be continued, next is how I converted to electric start for $316.
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    Re: Remaking a '46 short hood

    I converted to electric start using the following recipe and $314:

    1 starter ring gear from a newer model short hood: $25
    1 backing plate from a newer model short hood: $25
    1 new hi-torque tractor starter: $75
    1 new starter button switch: $7.50
    1 new Denso 35 amp mini alternator: $75
    1 new fan belt: $16
    1 new Mega Crank 30 amp ATV battery: $89.95
    2 new batter cables: $8.95
    1 friend with a lathe: free
    Making it all work: priceless

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    Turn flywheel edge down and press fit ring gear on flywheel according to Lincoln specification.

    Lay 5 bolt backing plate from newer short hood on top of 4 bolt backing plate and bolt them together. Drill new 4 bolt mounting holes in newer plate using older plate as a template. (I forgot to take a picture of this).

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    Mount hi-torque tractor starter.

    I had to fabricate a bracket for the Denso alternator but it worked ok. I had to high mount the alternator to create clearance between the fan belt and lower radiator hose. Also, there was no room for the battery up front so I mounted it where you see it.

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    I will post some before and after photos of the total rebuild process soon...

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    More later...

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    Re: Remaking a '46 short hood

    Great before and after pics. Also nice looking dog!

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    Re: Remaking a '46 short hood

    more engine before and after...Name:  New Springs, New Valve Guides and Pins.jpg
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    Re: Remaking a '46 short hood

    looks great !!

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    Re: Remaking a '46 short hood

    My last four last picture posts...and a special thanks to Duane for helping me with the idler board wiring and carburetor linkage!Name:  Parts prep work.jpg
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    Re: Remaking a '46 short hood

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    Re: Remaking a '46 short hood

    Looking Good !

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    Re: Remaking a '46 short hood

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    Re: Remaking a '46 short hood

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    Re: Remaking a '46 short hood

    Very, very nicely done. Love your attention to detail and adapted uses for the engine stand.
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    Re: Remaking a '46 short hood

    Just curious SKP - what are you using for an air cleaner?
    "You can't out puke a buzzard"

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    Re: Remaking a '46 short hood

    Quote Originally Posted by Pipeliner View Post
    Just curious SKP - what are you using for an air cleaner?

    I have not yet decided. I know where I can get an original but the guy wants $130 which seem a little rich to me. I have 3 or 4 of the later model oil filled Lincoln air filters laying around my shop, I may adapt one of them. I have also fabbed one before with a couple of round plates and a dry air filter. And lastly, I may buy a K&N.

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    Re: Remaking a '46 short hood

    Quote Originally Posted by duaneb55 View Post
    Very, very nicely done. Love your attention to detail and adapted uses for the engine stand.
    Thanks Duane, Those frames are hard to paint properly unless you can rotate them. And I have a nice paint booth with piped in breathing air and I can run 20,000 CFM through it with the big Devilbiss exhaust fan. I have a VFD on the motor so it is easy to adjust.

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    Re: Remaking a '46 short hood

    My "paint booth" air flow is based on the wind velocity at any given time. Love bugs and other "assistants" have been known to occasionally get stuck in the paint too.
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    Re: Remaking a '46 short hood

    Quote Originally Posted by SKP View Post
    I know where I can get an original but the guy wants $130 which seem a little rich to me.
    By original, do you mean the one on the left or right?

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    "You can't out puke a buzzard"

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    Re: Remaking a '46 short hood

    Quote Originally Posted by duaneb55 View Post
    My "paint booth" air flow is based on the wind velocity at any given time. Love bugs and other "assistants" have been known to occasionally get stuck in the paint too.
    I agree with Duane. I have seen his "paint booth"!

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