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    Re: Your thoughts on this Idealarc 250

    Quote Originally Posted by ndnchf View Post
    I was just about to ask what else I should look for, but you beat me to it. The next challenge will be getting it safely loaded in my truck and secured. I'll bring plenty of tie down straps.

    Assuming all goes well and I get it home. I figure it would be prudent to remove the cover and blow out the dust, then lube the bushings and gears. Anything else while I'm inside?

    Thanks again guys
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    For heavy stuff like this I bring my engine hoist with me.

    Likely 350+ lbs.
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    Re: Your thoughts on this Idealarc 250

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparkie View Post
    That's correct. Take the top and the small side panel off, the front and back panels can stay. Vacuum and/or blow the dust, dirt and debris out that's collected over the years. The gears that change amperage will have old dried grease in them that needs to be cleaned off and reapply a light coat of white lithium spray grease. On the polarity switch you will see some little rollers that are spring loaded that provides the detents, put some lithium grease on those also. The on/off switch can be cleaned with some Contact cleaner to flush the dirt out. Check the general condition of connections and look it all over. Go on Lincoln's website and download the Operator's and the separate parts manual to have for reference


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    Excellent, that's just what I needed to know. I'll go see if I can find the online manual. Thanks!
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    Re: Your thoughts on this Idealarc 250

    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaDave View Post
    For heavy stuff like this I bring my engine hoist with me.

    Likely 350+ lbs.
    Unfortunately I sold my engine hoist after rebuilding the engine in my 1924 Ford model T. I just didn't have the room to store it. My 2 car garage is jam packed. But the seller said he has some friends that can help load it. For unloading I have a 1000lb capacity pneumatic lift table that I can butt up to the tailgate. I can then get it to ground level. But an engine lift would be easier.

    BTW, what are the outside dimensions of the Idealarc? I need to do some rearranging to make room for it. Thanks.
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    Re: Your thoughts on this Idealarc 250

    Quote Originally Posted by ndnchf View Post
    BTW, what are the outside dimensions of the Idealarc?
    Here you go, see page 11.

    http://www.lincolnelectric.com/asset...oln3/im206.pdf

    Figure 21" w x 21" d x 34" to top of eye and 360 lbs +/- 5 without leads.
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    Re: Your thoughts on this Idealarc 250

    Quote Originally Posted by Pipeliner View Post
    Here you go, see page 11.

    http://www.lincolnelectric.com/asset...oln3/im206.pdf

    Figure 21" w x 21" d x 34" to top of eye and 360 lbs +/- 5 without leads.
    Thank you sir!

    I thought I've read somewhere about lubing the fan bearings. The manual says the fan motor has sealed ball bearings. it would be kind of hard to lube them if they are sealed. Did earlier models have open or just shielded bearings?
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    Re: Your thoughts on this Idealarc 250

    Here are some part #'s Sparkie posted a while back on the fan / bearings.

    http://weldingweb.com/showthread.php...71#post7304671

    Most likely shielded though. Don't over think this machine too much. Turn it on. If the fan runs and it burns rods it will probably continue to do so for decades to come.

    In other words: if it ain't broke, don't fix it till it is.

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    Re: Your thoughts on this Idealarc 250

    Quote Originally Posted by Pipeliner View Post
    Here are some part #'s Sparkie posted a while back on the fan / bearings.

    http://weldingweb.com/showthread.php...71#post7304671

    Most likely shielded though. Don't over think this machine too much. Turn it on. If the fan runs and it burns rods it will probably continue to do so for decades to come.

    In other words: if it ain't broke, don't fix it till it is.


    Sage advice!
    Wrote down the bearing and motor numbers for future reference - thanks.
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    Re: Your thoughts on this Idealarc 250

    The dimensions will be in the Operator's manual


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    Re: Your thoughts on this Idealarc 250

    Got it - thanks.
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    Re: Your thoughts on this Idealarc 250

    Can someone tell me the diameter of the hole in the lifting eye on the Idealarc? It's not on the drawing in the manual. Thanks
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    Re: Your thoughts on this Idealarc 250

    Not sure but it will handle a chain hook easy but a Miller Dialarc requires a shackle


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    Re: Your thoughts on this Idealarc 250

    I've got a piece of heavy 2" pipe that I may use with 4 men to lift it onto a dolly. Just wondering if it will fit. Thanks
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    Re: Your thoughts on this Idealarc 250

    Not sure about that. Just don't let it hurt you. 350 lbs of iron


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    Re: Your thoughts on this Idealarc 250

    Quote Originally Posted by ndnchf View Post
    Can someone tell me the diameter of the hole in the lifting eye on the Idealarc? It's not on the drawing in the manual. Thanks
    I have an 80's model. The hole in the lifting eye is well over an inch/inch in half. I used a come along/clevis hook and beam to load in truck. Removed from truck with engine hoist. No problem. Mine didn't have the wheel kit. Made a metal dolly to put on- easy rolling.

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    Re: Your thoughts on this Idealarc 250

    4 MEN lifting. One on each corner. Piece of cake.

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    Re: Your thoughts on this Idealarc 250

    Appx 1.75" w x 2.75" H on my old Idealarc. Sort of pear shaped, larger at top. My old Miller Dialarc is round, about 1 3/8" in diameter.

    You can see the lift eye clearly in some pics here: http://weldingweb.com/showthread.php...c-score!/page2
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    Re: Your thoughts on this Idealarc 250

    I went on the assumption that my 2" pipe was too large. So I took some chain and shackles and looped then over the pipe, and made a captive clamp to keep it centered on the pipe. This will be for lifting it onto the pallet I made.

    The pallet is made kind of like a sedan chair. A 1-1/4" board secured with heavy screws to two 2"x6" boards. We'll use the pipe to set the welder on the pallet. Then strap it down securely. Then 4 men can lift the pallet up into the back of my truck. I'll use the lifting eye to secure it in the bed with straps to the four corners.

    That should get it loaded and home safely.
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    Re: Your thoughts on this Idealarc 250

    Just got home with the Idealarc. It was 4+ hour drive each way, but we'll worth it. I was able to test it out using all three polarity settings and at various amp setting. This thing welds so smoothly - I love it. Hopefully I can get my son over tomorrow to help get it unloaded.
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    Re: Your thoughts on this Idealarc 250

    Your set now. Good job on acquiring a classic


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    Re: Your thoughts on this Idealarc 250

    You got a good one. Enjoy it.
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    Re: Your thoughts on this Idealarc 250

    Anxiously waiting for my son to come over this evening and help me unload it. We had four men to load it in. But for unloading, there are two of us and a 1000lb capacity pneumatic lift table.

    While waiting, I got 8 feet of new 6/3 SOOW power cable and a new 50 amp, 3 prong plug. Took some running around though. Lowes for the plug, Home Depot for the cable. Got the plug installed on the cable. After its in the garage, i'll remove the cover to blow it out, lube the moving parts and install the new power cable.
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    Re: Your thoughts on this Idealarc 250

    Good plan. It's worth the effort to set it up right


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    Re: Your thoughts on this Idealarc 250

    Quote Originally Posted by ndnchf View Post
    After its in the garage, i'll remove the cover to blow it out, lube the moving parts and install the new power cable.
    Just remember, there is such thing as too much of a good thing. You want the amp wheel to be snug when you turn it; otherwise it will creep while you're welding. If you have to two hand it, probably too tight. If you can give it a round with one hand leave it alone. Grease and oil just attract dust / dirt / grinding dust, etc.
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    Re: Your thoughts on this Idealarc 250

    Very true. Some guys make the mistake of backing off the brake bands to make it easier to turn. Then when you strike an arc the amp wheel will turn on its own.


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    Re: Your thoughts on this Idealarc 250

    Brake bands? I don't know what they are, so will leave theme alone.
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