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  1. #1
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    $400 garage find

    I picked this up on Friday, quite happy with it and it's in good shape. I had the LWS hook it up and test it. Started ticking as it should and clean inside, probably hasn't seen much use. I used these for years in the Navy, they bought thousands of these machines.

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    Todd, aka Toad.
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    Re: $400 garage find

    Nice find! Looks like Arc Products rebuilt it. Should be good to go for quite some time.

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    Re: $400 garage find

    I finally got all moved into my new shop and powered her up. Fan is on but no light, no ticking and no arc. I had the techs at Arcet verify it was switched over and it was putting out 72 volts. Any suggestions?
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    Re: $400 garage find

    Check the voltage on your new plugin? Somebody didn't install a breaker without splitting the circuits did they?
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    Re: $400 garage find

    I agree, definitely sounds like an input power problem. If you're running single phase, make sure you're using the correct phase. It's usually the red or brown wire that's not used.

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    Re: $400 garage find

    I'll check the voltage but my HTP Mig 2400 runs fine. I told the electrician I needed two 50 amp separate outlets. I have two dedicated breakers. I located a guy here in Salisbury MD (PowCon-guy) is his handle on eBay. He has PowCon parts and I bought my foot control from him. He said he will fix it, I did see a connection on the output capacitors that looks like it broke loose during the move. Im going to have him pick it up on Wednesday. Seems legit and he has a fair amount of PowCon parts. Coincidentally ArcOn is in his same town of Salisbury

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    Re: $400 garage find

    I just checked the outlets, 248 from each outlet. I'm thinking something came loose, it's too clean of a machine to have a use problem.

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    Todd, aka Toad.
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    Todd, aka Toad.
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    Re: $400 garage find

    Looking at the photos, it's hard to see, but it looks like the buss bars on the capacitor board are set for 230V, but the other two sets (for the fan and for the main transformer) are still set to 460V. If the fan is set to 460V but powered up with 230V, the fan might run, but very slowly, and the control board won't have enough power to run. Could very well be what's causing your problem.

    Not sure why it worked at Arcet though....

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    Re: $400 garage find

    Quote Originally Posted by ArcPowTech View Post
    Looking at the photos, it's hard to see, but it looks like the buss bars on the capacitor board are set for 230V, but the other two sets (for the fan and for the main transformer) are still set to 460V. If the fan is set to 460V but powered up with 230V, the fan might run, but very slowly, and the control board won't have enough power to run. Could very well be what's causing your problem.

    Not sure why it worked at Arcet though....
    That is definitely what I think as well, as the plate clearly says it was wired for 460. But it confuses me that you had a 230 single phase plug on it...
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    Re: $400 garage find

    On second thought, did you make sure it was not short circuiting on the case?
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    Re: $400 garage find

    I worry about those hand-wired jumpers from resistors straight to legs on the IC's. Makes me think that the unit may have been jury-rigged at some point.
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