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    Another Lincoln Followed Me Home.

    Hey Guys, It's been awhile since I posted on here but I have another project and this is a big one.

    Let me explain how this one came about. In my last project I was asked why the big fuss about the Lincoln 225-S welder. So I set out looking for something else.

    A friend sent me an email with this photo attached.


    So I said to him that looks like a Lincoln Idealarc 250 at the end of the line and asked him to check it out. I guess it was about 6 months later he called and said, we're heading down to the surplus yard, the old guy that owned it died and they are selling everything off, do you ant me to inquire about that welder? I said sure.

    He gave me a call and said, you were right that is an Idealarc 250 and guess what, they have two of them. do you ant me to get a price? I told him sure so they first said $150.00 each, I hesitated. then the guy asked if I wanted both. Then he said, if he'll take both I'll let him have them both for $150.00.

    So guess what, yup I got both of them.


    My friend brought them to his place which is about 65 miles away from me and said he would store them for me until I got a place to put them.

    I got started right away, I wanted to make some dollies so I could move them around easier.

    I went to the local steel yard and picked up what I needed.


    I decided to make the wheels


    Then attach them to the frames.


    Then paint them.


    All this was done with the welders in one town and me in another. I asked for a few dimensions, drilled some hole ans crossed my fingers. I brought them up to my friend's place and we installed them. a perfect fit.


    Well last weekend I loaded the welders up on a trailer and brought them home.
    today I got out in the garage and started looking them over. That's when I discovered that the the rectifier and suppressor along with all the copper straps and insulator through the bulkhead were missing.


    It looks like they took some of the copper strapping and brought it back to the range selector. So I'm guessing that my AC DC welder is now strictly an AC welder.

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    Re: Another Lincoln Followed Me Home.

    That is a bad deal after you went through all the trouble to make a dolly for it! Hope some parts fall in your lap.


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    Re: Another Lincoln Followed Me Home.

    This is what I think is missing.


    Here is the description page.


    There is one part, it's #27 that I don't see either.

    Could this be it?


    I'm wondering if it's worth locating the parts I need or just keep looking for another one that's complete. The code number is 6686. The Serial number is AC260095 it was built in 1970 and it doesn't have the Power Factor Capacitors.

    The AC machine seems to be complete.

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    Re: Another Lincoln Followed Me Home.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blocker View Post
    That is a bad deal after you went through all the trouble to make a dolly for it! Hope some parts fall in your lap.


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    Well it was a gamble. I think I got one good one out of the deal.
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    Re: Another Lincoln Followed Me Home.

    You still came out all right if one is running!


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    Re: Another Lincoln Followed Me Home.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blocker View Post
    You still came out all right if one is running!


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    I'll have to check out that other one. I wanted to get the AC-DC one up and running first.

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    Re: Another Lincoln Followed Me Home.

    Very nice job on the carts! They look damn near identical to the original cart on my 1964 idealarc 250!

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    Re: Another Lincoln Followed Me Home.

    Doug!! Let's breathe for a minute and stop this silly talk about not sure if it's worth locating parts.

    All together now......WE CAN DO THIS!!!

    That thing is quadrajet and a throw out bearing away from being a sled puller at the nationals.

    Seriously, I think this is going to be easy.
    "You can't out puke a buzzard"

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    Re: Another Lincoln Followed Me Home.

    DONE!!!!! And they've got two of them and free shipping so may as well grab a spare.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-Lincoln...4383.l4275.c10

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    Re: Another Lincoln Followed Me Home.

    I see these for sale fairly often at least 3 times a year in the $100 - $200 range. I can keep my eyes open for you if you want parts out of one that is in rough shape on the outside. I am not educated enough to know if there are any differences or cut off years that would or would not be compatible. Oh nice job on those carts.
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    Re: Another Lincoln Followed Me Home.

    In all seriousness, call Stumpfs and I'd wager they've got what you need in the boneyard.

    http://stumpfweldingsupplies.com/contactus.html

    Reasonable folks to deal with.
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    Re: Another Lincoln Followed Me Home.

    Quote Originally Posted by 86k10 View Post
    Very nice job on the carts! They look damn near identical to the original cart on my 1964 idealarc 250!
    Thanks 86k10 I did work off of a photograph I had of one of these welders with a dolly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pipeliner View Post
    Doug!! Let's breathe for a minute and stop this silly talk about not sure if it's worth locating parts.

    All together now......WE CAN DO THIS!!!

    That thing is quadrajet and a throw out bearing away from being a sled puller at the nationals.

    Seriously, I think this is going to be easy.
    Pipeliner, Okay, I'll give it a try. I know that the rectifier is missing. There are a few other parts that are missing too.

    Both of these welders came from the same auction before I got them but I don't know if it was a school or business that had them. Which really doesn't matter. But if I had to guess, I think what happened is that the rectifier went out and they patched it to get it back up and running.

    I guess I need to post some more photos so others can chime in and let me know what i need to get.
    Thanks for the encouragement.

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    Re: Another Lincoln Followed Me Home.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pipeliner View Post
    DONE!!!!! And they've got two of them and free shipping so may as well grab a spare.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-Lincoln...4383.l4275.c10

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    I saw that and they know they probably got the last two in the original boxes.

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    Re: Another Lincoln Followed Me Home.

    Quote Originally Posted by N2 Welding View Post
    I see these for sale fairly often at least 3 times a year in the $100 - $200 range. I can keep my eyes open for you if you want parts out of one that is in rough shape on the outside. I am not educated enough to know if there are any differences or cut off years that would or would not be compatible. Oh nice job on those carts.
    Thanks N2welding. I think that the cut off is a pretty wide range.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pipeliner View Post
    In all seriousness, call Stumpfs and I'd wager they've got what you need in the boneyard.

    http://stumpfweldingsupplies.com/contactus.html

    Reasonable folks to deal with.
    Thanks Pipeliner, I'll give Stumpf's a call. I'd even consider building a rectifier out of some aluminum, Diodes and what ever else I'd need.

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    Re: Another Lincoln Followed Me Home.

    Doug,

    check out the pics in this thread....

    http://weldingweb.com/showthread.php...light=AnOldman
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    Re: Another Lincoln Followed Me Home.

    Quote Originally Posted by Doug_ View Post
    Thanks Pipeliner, I'll give Stumpf's a call. I'd even consider building a rectifier out of some aluminum, Diodes and what ever else I'd need.
    Off the ledge----thank goodness!! I might have one or five of these sitting around. I'd be happy to open up as many as necessary to help see what you need.
    "You can't out puke a buzzard"

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    Re: Another Lincoln Followed Me Home.

    That oval shaped component at the very bottom of the picture looks like a capacitor.
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    Re: Another Lincoln Followed Me Home.

    Quote Originally Posted by John T View Post
    Doug,

    check out the pics in this thread....

    http://weldingweb.com/showthread.php...light=AnOldman
    Thanks John, Those photos will really help when I put a list of parts together.

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    Re: Another Lincoln Followed Me Home.

    Quote Originally Posted by N2 Welding View Post
    That oval shaped component at the very bottom of the picture looks like a capacitor.
    I believe you are right. It's #11 on the parts list which is a Stabilizing Capacitor.

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    Re: Another Lincoln Followed Me Home.

    Quote Originally Posted by Doug_ View Post
    Thanks John, Those photos will really help when I put a list of parts together.
    You might also send a PM to "anoldman"

    He had a ton of Hi resolution pics also...

    I had them when I bought that welder... but can't find them right now.
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    Re: Another Lincoln Followed Me Home.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pipeliner View Post
    Off the ledge----thank goodness!! I might have one or five of these sitting around. I'd be happy to open up as many as necessary to help see what you need.
    Oh wow, thanks, I need to get mine cleaned out and take some better photos of it. I'm hoping that there isn't something wrong that might have caused the rectifier to go bad in the first place. I'll need some guidance as far as specs to check to see if some other components are bad.

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    Re: Another Lincoln Followed Me Home.

    Quote Originally Posted by John T View Post
    You might also send a PM to "anoldman"

    He had a ton of Hi resolution pics also...

    I had them when I bought that welder... but can't find them right now.
    Thanks John, I'll PM him when I get mine cleaned up.

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    Re: Another Lincoln Followed Me Home.

    Quote Originally Posted by John T View Post
    You might also send a PM to "anoldman"
    He had a ton of Hi resolution pics also...
    I had them when I bought that welder... but can't find them right now.
    Here you go John:

    http://weldingweb.com/showthread.php...ot-restoration


    Quote Originally Posted by Doug_ View Post
    I'm hoping that there isn't something wrong that might have caused the rectifier to go bad in the first place.
    I'd be willing to bet a bologna sandwich with miracle whip the only thing wrong with it originally was a bad diode or two.
    "You can't out puke a buzzard"

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    Re: Another Lincoln Followed Me Home.

    I sent a PM to "anoldman" but want to get it cleaned up before i ask for specific photos.

    Thanks to everyone so far for your input. I'd really like to get this back to an ACDC machine.

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    Re: Another Lincoln Followed Me Home.

    Today I thought I'd check to see if there was any voltage at the studs. I checked the voltage of both machines and they were 70 Volts AC.

    I also shot a little lube on the gears and pointer. They will need to be taken apart cleaned and properly lubed but for now I just wanted to see if they would free up a little, which they did.

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