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    I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    I was laid off and applied for a MIG welding job in a pressure vessel facility.

    I failed the weld test. Knew I was half way through. The welds were VERY hot, so hot you couldn't see the freeze side of the puddle. And I couldn't even tell what I was seeing.

    They came out OK, but not to the quality they wanted. It's way different welding with a smaller machine than an industrial production one. If I would have had 10 minutes of practice, I think I could have passed.

    Oh well. Maybe next time.
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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    sorry to hear that. learn from your mistakes and move on. you will find your nitch!
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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    That sucks. My test is in two weeks and I think if the overhead and vertical go well on mig I’ll test for stick too.
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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    Quote Originally Posted by One1 View Post
    That sucks. My test is in two weeks and I think if the overhead and vertical go well on mig I’ll test for stick too.
    Good luck. I was close to passing. Maybe next time.
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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    Quote Originally Posted by 225 View Post
    I was laid off and applied for a MIG welding job in a pressure vessel facility.

    I failed the weld test. Knew I was half way through. The welds were VERY hot, so hot you couldn't see the freeze side of the puddle. And I couldn't even tell what I was seeing.

    They came out OK, but not to the quality they wanted. It's way different welding with a smaller machine than an industrial production one. If I would have had 10 minutes of practice, I think I could have passed.

    Oh well. Maybe next time.
    Sorry to hear that.
    Did you see the volts/wire speed settings or did they just hand you the gun?


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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    Quote Originally Posted by davezelonis View Post
    Did you see the volts/wire speed settings or did they just hand you the gun?
    When doing construction projects in the local Navy shipyards. You go to Seattle to the testing facility. When doing wire feed tests, they have duct tape over all the gauges. First part of the test is to set the welder within the wire manufactures specs. If not, test over right then and there!
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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    Quote Originally Posted by CEP View Post
    When doing construction projects in the local Navy shipyards. You go to Seattle to the testing facility. When doing wire feed tests, they have duct tape over all the gauges. First part of the test is to set the welder within the wire manufactures specs. If not, test over right then and there!
    Not useful information to some one trying to learn to pass a test. Are you allowed to pull the tape off the gauges to see how they are set up?
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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    Quote Originally Posted by N2 Welding View Post
    Are you allowed to pull the tape off the gauges to see how they are set up?
    No way! The Navy wants to know if you know how to set your welder up with out help.
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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    Quote Originally Posted by CEP View Post
    No way! The Navy wants to know if you know how to set your welder up with out help.
    So what you are saying is it’s all sight and sound?


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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    Quote Originally Posted by davezelonis View Post
    So what you are saying is it’s all sight and sound?
    That is correct!
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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    Quote Originally Posted by CEP View Post
    That is correct!
    It sounds like the OP wasn’t even allowed to adjust anything. I guess they felt the machine was where they wanted it to weld at. Nice and HOT.


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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    Quote Originally Posted by davezelonis View Post
    It sounds like the OP wasn’t even allowed to adjust anything. I guess they felt the machine was where they wanted it to weld at. Nice and HOT.
    I’ve never taken a test, that I wasn’t allowed to set the welder. And even run it for a while, before testing.
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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    Part of the problem may have been that the OP did not stop and change the machine on his own volition.

    Often times employers are looking for someone that will take the initiative to resolve a problem. If they hire people that only do what they are told "or in this instance use the settings handed to them", then it's a recipe for failure.
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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    Or they want "production" workers. Which a lot aren't cut out for. No offense to the OP, I would have failed miserably. But X2 on what scsmith42 said also....
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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    I was a mechanic for about 10 yrs, and used to get very frustrated watching guys hack sh*t up day in day out, make lots of money doing it. When I would try my best (I had shortcuts for a lot of things) to do things the right way and get crapped on for it. Point is find what you enjoy doing, and don't look back. I understand you need cabbage to feed the family, but there is something said for those who bust their *ss day in day out, and can say they never worked a day in their life. Sorry for the rant...
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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    If you're gonna be a welder, you're going to bust tests, it's just part of it. There's always another test, you'll get 'em next time.

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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    Quote Originally Posted by davezelonis View Post
    It sounds like the OP wasn’t even allowed to adjust anything. I guess they felt the machine was where they wanted it to weld at. Nice and HOT.


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    Maybe that was also a test. To see if he knew the difference.

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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    That's the temp they weld at. They're welding air tanks for various companies, big ones. I kinda had the hang of it at the last minute. It was just crazy how hot they ran it at without burning through anything.

    I could really see tons of undercut in the puddle, but when I took my helmet off if looked fine. It was an experience.

    I'm kinda bummed I didn't pass because even though its was a production setting, it would have been a fun job.
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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    Good luck next time
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    Quote Originally Posted by 225 View Post
    I was laid off and applied for a MIG welding job in a pressure vessel facility.

    I failed the weld test. Knew I was half way through. The welds were VERY hot, so hot you couldn't see the freeze side of the puddle. And I couldn't even tell what I was seeing.

    They came out OK, but not to the quality they wanted. It's way different welding with a smaller machine than an industrial production one. If I would have had 10 minutes of practice, I think I could have passed.

    Oh well. Maybe next time.

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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    Quote Originally Posted by flushcut View Post
    Maybe that was also a test. To see if he knew the difference.
    Generally it isn't going to hurt to ask what the parameters of the test are. How are you going to find out if you can help yourself pass making an adjustment or using a Kobayashi Maru? If you are told shut up and pull the trigger maybe you don't want to work there anyway. Even if all of the parameters are fixed, why wouldn't the applicant be allowed to practice to familiarize himself with the machine and settings?
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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    225,

    What about the possibility of going back this coming week and asking to test again? The experience from your first go at it should improve your chances on your second attempt. Do you have access to any other place (local welding program, etc.) with equipment you could go practice a little more at? How about asking if you can get on as a welders helper so you can learn from the more experienced hands and then test again in a couple weeks? If you're hungry and think you really want to work there don't let busting that test stop you from trying to get hired on. There's some good experience to be had in a pressure vessel shop that will make you a better (and more versatile) welder in the long run.

    You say "production welding" like it's some how kind of a bad thing. Personally I rather be doing production welding in a shop than doing repair work out in the field. But to each his own I guess.

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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    225 whenever I run wire feed, I run as hot as I can handle it.
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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    Biggest mistakes most people make is not listening or asking questions. A friend of mine is a weld tester and trainer and a lot of guys fail from simply not following instructions. If they say a 1/4 in weld 3/8 isn’t better
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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    I am just curious, was this a Union job?

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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    Quote Originally Posted by CEP View Post
    When doing construction projects in the local Navy shipyards. You go to Seattle to the testing facility. When doing wire feed tests, they have duct tape over all the gauges. First part of the test is to set the welder within the wire manufactures specs. If not, test over right then and there!
    I don't doubt you Carl but in my Navy experience your allowed to use the gauges and if you don't and fail to stay within the wps parameters your done.

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