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    I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    I was laid off and applied for a MIG welding job in a pressure vessel facility.

    I failed the weld test. Knew I was half way through. The welds were VERY hot, so hot you couldn't see the freeze side of the puddle. And I couldn't even tell what I was seeing.

    They came out OK, but not to the quality they wanted. It's way different welding with a smaller machine than an industrial production one. If I would have had 10 minutes of practice, I think I could have passed.

    Oh well. Maybe next time.
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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    sorry to hear that. learn from your mistakes and move on. you will find your nitch!
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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    That sucks. My test is in two weeks and I think if the overhead and vertical go well on mig I’ll test for stick too.
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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    Quote Originally Posted by One1 View Post
    That sucks. My test is in two weeks and I think if the overhead and vertical go well on mig I’ll test for stick too.
    Good luck. I was close to passing. Maybe next time.
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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    Quote Originally Posted by 225 View Post
    I was laid off and applied for a MIG welding job in a pressure vessel facility.

    I failed the weld test. Knew I was half way through. The welds were VERY hot, so hot you couldn't see the freeze side of the puddle. And I couldn't even tell what I was seeing.

    They came out OK, but not to the quality they wanted. It's way different welding with a smaller machine than an industrial production one. If I would have had 10 minutes of practice, I think I could have passed.

    Oh well. Maybe next time.
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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    Quote Originally Posted by davezelonis View Post
    Did you see the volts/wire speed settings or did they just hand you the gun?
    When doing construction projects in the local Navy shipyards. You go to Seattle to the testing facility. When doing wire feed tests, they have duct tape over all the gauges. First part of the test is to set the welder within the wire manufactures specs. If not, test over right then and there!
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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    Quote Originally Posted by CEP View Post
    When doing construction projects in the local Navy shipyards. You go to Seattle to the testing facility. When doing wire feed tests, they have duct tape over all the gauges. First part of the test is to set the welder within the wire manufactures specs. If not, test over right then and there!
    Not useful information to some one trying to learn to pass a test. Are you allowed to pull the tape off the gauges to see how they are set up?
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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    Quote Originally Posted by N2 Welding View Post
    Are you allowed to pull the tape off the gauges to see how they are set up?
    No way! The Navy wants to know if you know how to set your welder up with out help.
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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    Quote Originally Posted by CEP View Post
    No way! The Navy wants to know if you know how to set your welder up with out help.
    So what you are saying is it’s all sight and sound?


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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    Quote Originally Posted by CEP View Post
    When doing construction projects in the local Navy shipyards. You go to Seattle to the testing facility. When doing wire feed tests, they have duct tape over all the gauges. First part of the test is to set the welder within the wire manufactures specs. If not, test over right then and there!
    I don't doubt you Carl but in my Navy experience your allowed to use the gauges and if you don't and fail to stay within the wps parameters your done.

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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    Quote Originally Posted by Showdog75 View Post
    I don't doubt you Carl but in my Navy experience your allowed to use the gauges and if you don't and fail to stay within the wps parameters your done.
    Remember now, this is for construction projects. The first time this happened to me, was when we built the water pit coffer dam next to dry dock 4. In Puget Sound Naval Shipyard in Bremerton Washington.
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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    Part of the problem may have been that the OP did not stop and change the machine on his own volition.

    Often times employers are looking for someone that will take the initiative to resolve a problem. If they hire people that only do what they are told "or in this instance use the settings handed to them", then it's a recipe for failure.
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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    I was a mechanic for about 10 yrs, and used to get very frustrated watching guys hack sh*t up day in day out, make lots of money doing it. When I would try my best (I had shortcuts for a lot of things) to do things the right way and get crapped on for it. Point is find what you enjoy doing, and don't look back. I understand you need cabbage to feed the family, but there is something said for those who bust their *ss day in day out, and can say they never worked a day in their life. Sorry for the rant...
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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    Or they want "production" workers. Which a lot aren't cut out for. No offense to the OP, I would have failed miserably. But X2 on what scsmith42 said also....
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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    If you're gonna be a welder, you're going to bust tests, it's just part of it. There's always another test, you'll get 'em next time.

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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    That's the temp they weld at. They're welding air tanks for various companies, big ones. I kinda had the hang of it at the last minute. It was just crazy how hot they ran it at without burning through anything.

    I could really see tons of undercut in the puddle, but when I took my helmet off if looked fine. It was an experience.

    I'm kinda bummed I didn't pass because even though its was a production setting, it would have been a fun job.
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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    Good luck next time
    Next time it will go better for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by 225 View Post
    I was laid off and applied for a MIG welding job in a pressure vessel facility.

    I failed the weld test. Knew I was half way through. The welds were VERY hot, so hot you couldn't see the freeze side of the puddle. And I couldn't even tell what I was seeing.

    They came out OK, but not to the quality they wanted. It's way different welding with a smaller machine than an industrial production one. If I would have had 10 minutes of practice, I think I could have passed.

    Oh well. Maybe next time.

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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    225,

    What about the possibility of going back this coming week and asking to test again? The experience from your first go at it should improve your chances on your second attempt. Do you have access to any other place (local welding program, etc.) with equipment you could go practice a little more at? How about asking if you can get on as a welders helper so you can learn from the more experienced hands and then test again in a couple weeks? If you're hungry and think you really want to work there don't let busting that test stop you from trying to get hired on. There's some good experience to be had in a pressure vessel shop that will make you a better (and more versatile) welder in the long run.

    You say "production welding" like it's some how kind of a bad thing. Personally I rather be doing production welding in a shop than doing repair work out in the field. But to each his own I guess.

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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    225 whenever I run wire feed, I run as hot as I can handle it.
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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    Biggest mistakes most people make is not listening or asking questions. A friend of mine is a weld tester and trainer and a lot of guys fail from simply not following instructions. If they say a 1/4 in weld 3/8 isn’t better
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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    I am just curious, was this a Union job?

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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    oh the good old days.......all the machines i had to mig with had abc,s and 123,s ....every one machine was dif... had to set up by sound ...lololol

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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    Three of the last four welders I gave test to could not set their machines. They said we need new equipment that they could punch in the material thickness and have the machine set the parameters.

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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    On this one piping job for a new boiler installation I was the on site working supervisor for, the company sent me out a new hired welder as an addition to the crew that they had tested and said was certified for the work we were doing. My boss said he was sending me a qualified "pipe welder). He was an older guy and looked and talked like he knew what he was doing. It was winter and we were set up in the boiler house (real high noise level). I kept an eye on him from a distance for the first hour or so and it really looked like he'd done this kind of work before and knew what he was doing. Luckily before he'd done to much welding I happen to walk close behind him while he was welding. Just by the sound I could tell he was running 7018 on straight polarity (DCEN) . During the ensuing conversation he appeared to know that 7018 was suppose to be run on reverse polarity (DCEP) and claimed that's what he was on.

    Any way, long story short, no more pipe welding for him. But he had a good attitude and was willing to take instruction and I was needing some one to take care of a lot of less critical welding building all manner of structural pipe supports, brackets, etc. After a little OJT he ended up being a real valuable member of the crew.

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    Re: I failed a MIG weld test today :(

    Don't sweat it just learn from it and keep trying . Ive gone to 10 job interviews in the last year for jobs i was more then qualified for and got passed over while also working full time. but on the 11th interview for a job that i was barely qualified for which is a lot more pay and better hours and half hour closer drive then the others. i got it. but after the 3-5 job interview i was bummed and getting stressed just did my best to not show it.

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