#1  
Old 04-27-2012, 01:52 PM
225's Avatar
225 225 is offline
WeldingWeb Journeyman
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Louisiana and WNC
Posts: 93
My new TIG machine came in yesterday..

I work on a boat, and I don't get off until Tuesday. So I am pumped!

My wife told me the shipping box looked to be in good condition.

I can't wait to use it. I can stick weld pretty good. Well enough to get by. I have to tell you, I never TIG welded before in my life. I don't even know how to start it up or anything. So it's going to be a new world for me.

So any super noob tips would be great.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-27-2012, 02:17 PM
Tundra08's Avatar
Tundra08 Tundra08 is offline
WeldingWeb Journeyman
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Manitoba, Canada
Posts: 52
Re: My new TIG machine came in yesterday..

Good luck with your new machine, have a blast with it.

Tig welding is almost mesmerizing. The control that you have over the weld is unbelievable.

My word of advice is not to get upset when your welds look nothing like some of the great welders that are on this site. The control that these guys have when welding is amazing.

I hope that with your new machine nobody gets to say I told you so. You other post of why a manufacturer is so hated may come back to haunt you. I had kind of looked at Neverlast and forums like this one changed my mind.
__________________
Miller Diversion 180
Lincoln Mig Pak 5000 HD
Hypertherm 45
Uni-Spotter Stud Welder
Oxy Set-up with Harris Torch
Miller 30FX Arc Station
Miller Elite - Hockey Canada Helmet
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-27-2012, 02:18 PM
kcb37 kcb37 is offline
WeldingWeb Journeyman
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 120
Re: My new TIG machine came in yesterday..

I have never tig welded myself either. But this is what I do know, sure I will be corrected on some of it.
If you have gas welded the idea is similar. Torch and rod.
With a TIG set the machine somewhat like a Mig would set or an Arc/Stick. But you have a foot contorl (some have hand) that makes a fine adjustment to the voltage/amerage. This is important to control the puddle, at the end of the weld when it's hot you start to bring the power down to get a consistent and "pretty" finish.
Just play around with it and have fun.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-27-2012, 02:24 PM
225's Avatar
225 225 is offline
WeldingWeb Journeyman
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Louisiana and WNC
Posts: 93
Re: My new TIG machine came in yesterday..

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tundra08 View Post
Good luck with your new machine, have a blast with it.

Tig welding is almost mesmerizing. The control that you have over the weld is unbelievable.

My word of advice is not to get upset when your welds look nothing like some of the great welders that are on this site. The control that these guys have when welding is amazing.

I hope that with your new machine nobody gets to say I told you so. You other post of why a manufacturer is so hated may come back to haunt you. I had kind of looked at Neverlast and forums like this one changed my mind.
Thanks. The amount of welding I will do, will never put that machine to the limit. Or the hours I will put on it. Unless its a turd out the box.

If I get heavy into it, Ill buy a better machine. It's kind of a test to see if I like TIG or not.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-27-2012, 02:30 PM
tig_21's Avatar
tig_21 tig_21 is offline
WeldingWeb Journeyman
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Boise, ID
Posts: 176
Re: My new TIG machine came in yesterday..

Did you buy a tig just for fun or do you have projects in mind?....
__________________
Miller Dynasty 200
Millermatic 211
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-27-2012, 02:36 PM
225's Avatar
225 225 is offline
WeldingWeb Journeyman
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Louisiana and WNC
Posts: 93
Re: My new TIG machine came in yesterday..

Quote:
Originally Posted by tig_21 View Post
Did you buy a tig just for fun or do you have projects in mind?....
Mostly for fun. The only thing I will really use it for is for motorcycle header fabrication. Some light aluminum, and nick nack stuff like that.

I need to build a trailer asap, so I will be using the stick function for that. I build custom trailers for my friends, and I have been using my Miller for that. But I wanted to be able to build custom diamond plate boxes, so I wanted a TIG for that.

It's not going to be used everyday, all day. Hobby stuff mostly.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-27-2012, 02:38 PM
225's Avatar
225 225 is offline
WeldingWeb Journeyman
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Louisiana and WNC
Posts: 93
Re: My new TIG machine came in yesterday..

How do you start the arc on a TIG? with the pedal of switch on the torch?
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-27-2012, 03:21 PM
Zmechanic Zmechanic is offline
WeldingWeb Journeyman
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Leander, TX
Posts: 118
Re: My new TIG machine came in yesterday..

Both, depending on your configuration. You can set it up so the switch on the torch controls everything, or you can use the foot pedal to control it.

The foot pedal is pretty self explanatory as far as how it works.

The switch has two popular modes 2T and 4T. 2T is also pretty simple. When you press the button, the machine starts the arc. When you let off the button, it stops the arc. 2T also has the added benefit of upslope and downslope, usually measured in seconds. So, you press the button, the machine will start the arc, then it will ramp the current up to the current setting in the number of seconds you specify in upslope. The current will stay at your current setting as long as you are holding the button. When you let off of the button, this same process repeats in reverse from set current to 0 over the time period you set for downslope.

4T is can be even neater. Here, you press and hold the button. The machine will start the arc, and will output whatever current you have set for your start amps (if you have that control, some of them have a pre-defined current). It will stay at that current with the arc started until you let off the button. When you let off the button, it will ramp up to your set current over the upslope time period you set. The arc will stay lit even though you are not pressing the button. When you press the button and hold yet again, the machine will ramp the current back down to your end amps (again sometimes this is adjustable, sometimes it isn't) over your downslope time period. It will stay at the end amps until you let off the button again. When you let off the button, the arc goes out.

That's it!

Last edited by Zmechanic; 04-27-2012 at 03:27 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-27-2012, 04:02 PM
Fat Bastard's Avatar
Fat Bastard Fat Bastard is offline
Master Welder
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Anchorage Alaska
Posts: 3,640
Re: My new TIG machine came in yesterday..

Quote:
Originally Posted by 225 View Post
I work on a boat, and I don't get off until Tuesday. So I am pumped!

My wife told me the shipping box looked to be in good condition.

I can't wait to use it. I can stick weld pretty good. Well enough to get by. I have to tell you, I never TIG welded before in my life. I don't even know how to start it up or anything. So it's going to be a new world for me.

So any super noob tips would be great.
What did you buy?
__________________
Brucy is an admitted unemployment cheat. AND he is PROUD of it. Kentucky should be proud. Shame on you Bruce.
Prophet Mohammed, womanizer, child molester and ruthless killer?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-27-2012, 04:11 PM
225's Avatar
225 225 is offline
WeldingWeb Journeyman
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Louisiana and WNC
Posts: 93
Re: My new TIG machine came in yesterday..

Thank you. That was the kind of answer I was looking for...
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 04-27-2012, 04:11 PM
225's Avatar
225 225 is offline
WeldingWeb Journeyman
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Louisiana and WNC
Posts: 93
Re: My new TIG machine came in yesterday..

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat Bastard View Post
What did you buy?
Everlast powerTIG200DX
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 04-27-2012, 06:02 PM
Llundberg Llundberg is offline
WeldingWeb Journeyman
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia
Posts: 178
Re: My new TIG machine came in yesterday..

Quote:
Originally Posted by 225 View Post
Everlast powerTIG200DX
Good luck and enjoy it. A character called sundown will be along shortly to call you "dumbazz newbie you don't know what you're talking about". That is customary for anyone new and especially someone who bought anything made in China (he has personal issues but no need to take notice, he is not a welder himself). Enjoy and stay with it.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 04-27-2012, 06:13 PM
LarryO's Avatar
LarryO LarryO is offline
WeldingWeb Craftsman
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 1,537
Re: My new TIG machine came in yesterday..

Quote:
Originally Posted by Llundberg View Post
Good luck and enjoy it. A character called sundown will be along shortly to call you "dumbazz newbie you don't know what you're talking about". That is customary for anyone new and especially someone who bought anything made in China (he has personal issues but no need to take notice, he is not a welder himself). Enjoy and stay with it.
Why don't you give it a rest?
Im sick of your dumbazz comments. Your cloging up the board with BS.

Also i would listen to Sundown's advice all day over your BS.
__________________
Kemppi Pro Evolution 4200
Kemppi 530 wire feed with MXE panel
Cigweld TransTig 200 AC/DC
Hypertherm PowerMax45
CutSkill O/A setup
Speedglas 9000x adflow
Speedglas 9100xx
2 Labs

All at home!
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 04-27-2012, 07:03 PM
Llundberg Llundberg is offline
WeldingWeb Journeyman
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia
Posts: 178
Re: My new TIG machine came in yesterday..

Quote:
Originally Posted by LarryO View Post
Why don't you give it a rest?
Im sick of your dumbazz comments. Your cloging up the board with BS.

Also i would listen to Sundown's advice all day over your BS.
If so, why do you read them? HINT: its called killfile. Use it!
Are you SD with another alias?
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 04-27-2012, 07:41 PM
LarryO's Avatar
LarryO LarryO is offline
WeldingWeb Craftsman
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 1,537
Re: My new TIG machine came in yesterday..

'Cos i like to read all.

Why put you on the ignore?

You may actually contribute to this forum one day and i may actually learn something from you.

.....and no, im not SD, but i'd prefer to meet him over a beer than you.
__________________
Kemppi Pro Evolution 4200
Kemppi 530 wire feed with MXE panel
Cigweld TransTig 200 AC/DC
Hypertherm PowerMax45
CutSkill O/A setup
Speedglas 9000x adflow
Speedglas 9100xx
2 Labs

All at home!
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 04-27-2012, 07:42 PM
Llundberg Llundberg is offline
WeldingWeb Journeyman
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia
Posts: 178
Re: My new TIG machine came in yesterday..

Quote:
Originally Posted by LarryO View Post
'Cos i like to read all.

Why put you on the ignore?

You may actually contribute to this forum one day and i may actually learn something from you.

.....and no, im not SD, but i'd prefer to meet him over a beer than you.
OK. Point taken, I'll turn it down.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 04-27-2012, 08:56 PM
zapster's Avatar
zapster zapster is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In A Nice Comfy Chair
Posts: 13,831
Re: My new TIG machine came in yesterday..

Quote:
Originally Posted by Llundberg View Post
OK. Point taken, I'll turn it down.
Great!

Finally.......

Some of us are trying to


...zap!
__________________


I am not completely insane..
Some parts are missing

I have figured out that keeping everyone happy is nearly impossible but pissing people off is easy and fun.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 04-27-2012, 08:57 PM
Lanse Lanse is online now
WeldingWeb Craftsman
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Brookville, Ohio
Posts: 1,498
Re: My new TIG machine came in yesterday..

Quote:
Originally Posted by Llundberg View Post
Good luck and enjoy it. A character called sundown will be along shortly to call you "dumbazz newbie you don't know what you're talking about". That is customary for anyone new and especially someone who bought anything made in China (he has personal issues but no need to take notice, he is not a welder himself). Enjoy and stay with it.

Consider it the "Welcome To WeldingWeb" official hazing/initiation
__________________
"Overkill is an often under-rated achievement" -Will Hayden

HTP Mig 2400
Hypertherm Powermax 45
Lincoln Precision Tig 225
Longevity StickWeld 250
Hobart Stickmate AC/DC
Hobart Handler 187


a.k.a ChuckE2009 on Youtube
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 04-27-2012, 10:10 PM
Broccoli1's Avatar
Broccoli1 Broccoli1 is offline
Master Welder
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 4,638
Re: My new TIG machine came in yesterday..

Quote:
Originally Posted by 225 View Post
I work on a boat, and I don't get off until Tuesday. So I am pumped!

My wife told me the shipping box looked to be in good condition.

I can't wait to use it. I can stick weld pretty good. Well enough to get by. I have to tell you, I never TIG welded before in my life. I don't even know how to start it up or anything. So it's going to be a new world for me.

So any super noob tips would be great.
http://www.millerwelds.com/resources/TIGhandbook/

Read It or order the Student package ( $70.00)* and get the Hard Copy- * Wow the price has gone up

worth the 25.00 bux they charge just for the book

http://www.millerwelds.com/resources...d=170555&qty=1
__________________
Ed Conley
http://www.screamingbroccoli.net/
MM252
MM211
Passport Plus & Spool gun
TA 185
Lincoln SP135 Plus- (Gone to a good home)
Miller 125c Plasma 120v
O/A set
SO 2020 bender
Beer in the fridge
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 04-28-2012, 01:48 AM
225's Avatar
225 225 is offline
WeldingWeb Journeyman
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Louisiana and WNC
Posts: 93
Re: My new TIG machine came in yesterday..

Thanks guys, and gotta love forum drama.

I am a welder. Was by trade for a few years. Building boats before I started running them. Still certified in structural stick welding. Doubt I could pass a pipe test still. Never touched tig though. I've seen it done. I used to watch a guy do it a lot years ago.

I know I can do it, just didn't know where to start.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 04-28-2012, 01:56 AM
225's Avatar
225 225 is offline
WeldingWeb Journeyman
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Louisiana and WNC
Posts: 93
Re: My new TIG machine came in yesterday..

Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 04-28-2012, 02:48 AM
cmartman46's Avatar
cmartman46 cmartman46 is offline
WeldingWeb Tradesman
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 213
Re: My new TIG machine came in yesterday..

Good luck with the new tig machine. I seen a funny video how this guy took a sledge hammer to a Longevity/Everlast machine, I couldn'nt stop laughing. I heard good stuff and bad stuff about these machines. Let me know if you like your machine after you get it perkalating! For the price I would have to try it too.
I bought a Thermal arc ARCMASTER 185 back in 09 for $1600.00. floor model no pedal.What I got with it: Regulator, welding tungsten/cup kit, stick/whip weld adaptor ,tig torch (Abitig 26) and manuel with 3 year warranty. I also purchased it mostly for hobby and small nick knack welding for mself, I also purchased a small metal break/shear roller for small hobby projects. I saved myself and friends money repairing broken parts. As of now, I never had one problem with my Thermalarc. I am very satisfied. I took time to read and understand it's functions and apply it to it's specific uses which is awesome! I did buy a Lotus foot pedal off of EBAY for $69 and converted to fit ARCMASTER185. Works great!
Good luck!
__________________
THE OLDER I GET! THE SMARTER MY DAD WAS!
Thermal Arc 185 inverter Tig welder
ABITIG 26 tig torch
Lotus foot pedal
Lincoln 225 stick welder
Clark 185SG Mig spoolgunwelder
Victor torch/regulators
HF36" shear,bender,roller.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 04-28-2012, 03:12 AM
crab fisherman's Avatar
crab fisherman crab fisherman is offline
WeldingWeb Journeyman
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: NorCal
Posts: 140
Re: My new TIG machine came in yesterday..

Quote:
Originally Posted by 225 View Post
That's a beast. Whats she got for power?

Have fun with the new welder.

-Ian
__________________
Miller Dynasty 350
Miller XMT 304
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 04-28-2012, 03:58 AM
225's Avatar
225 225 is offline
WeldingWeb Journeyman
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Louisiana and WNC
Posts: 93
Re: My new TIG machine came in yesterday..

3000 hp

Album: http://imgur.com/a/Urzpt#0
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 04-28-2012, 02:44 PM
crab fisherman's Avatar
crab fisherman crab fisherman is offline
WeldingWeb Journeyman
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: NorCal
Posts: 140
Re: My new TIG machine came in yesterday..

Quote:
Originally Posted by 225 View Post
Hey thanks for the pictures!

I work on a boat too. Our offshore boats are a little different than yours. Lots more emphasis on fuel economy for sixty day tuna trips.

I like the picture of the upwind in the canal. What happens when the wind is on the beam? I have seen the tugs in the southern states, you guys have some skills!

Have you tried the new welder yet?

-Ian
__________________
Miller Dynasty 350
Miller XMT 304
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:07 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Penton Media, Inc. All rights reserved.