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straight cut on pipe
probably simple for most, but how to get a straight cut on pipe thats already been cut on. both ends have been rough cut.
i know a wrap round but talking straight enough to bevel and fit. and larger 10" + pipe. i could see using several torpedo levels and a framing square. love to hear from the pros. thanks dave |
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Re: straight cut on pipe
Up to about three inch, a worm drive radiator hose clamp tightens up quite square. For very much larger pipe, I have no idea.
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Re: straight cut on pipe
In the field or in the shop?? I have done stuff like wrap the pipe with a tig filler rod and tacking it in place, in the field and also stuff like wraping them with a pipe layout roll. But in the shop I just use the good old horizontal band saw.
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Re: straight cut on pipe
A 6-8" wide pipe wrap is going to be dang near as straight and precise as any instrument, square, levels or whatever you can think of for getting a straight line, then it's up to you to cut it and bevel it.
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Re: straight cut on pipe
Pipe wrap will put a nice straight line.
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Yea, wrap a round and practice. All we use is a hand held ox/act torch. Practice and more practice. Been doing it for 40 years, just wrap and cut .
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Re: straight cut on pipe
if your doing a bunch of cuts on one size of pipe these help take out the shake http://www.americawestdrillingsupply...orchguides.asp
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Re: straight cut on pipe
wrap around, soap stone and patience to get it right the first time.
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i made a ring once that was a little larger than the pipe, it could be slipped over and then secured in place with three evenly spaced bolts that were threaded through nuts i had tacked to the ring. Then used the torch to cut it by draggign the torch on the ring following a line i drew with a wrap around or a magnetic tape.
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Re: straight cut on pipe
wrap-a-round is the way to go..if you are going to cut a bevel dont' forget to make your mark about 1/8 short to allow for the bevel.
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Re: straight cut on pipe
I was just thinking about this subject... It occurred to me that perhaps a length of motorcycle chain would work well.
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Re: straight cut on pipe
You can use a length of masons twine to take the place of a wrap around. This method is also the wastest way to wrap around a pipe fitting that needs to be marked for a miter cut.
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Re: straight cut on pipe
Seems to me that string, by nature of being string, would be less ideal for marking a straight line on a pipe since it has the ability to bend in 2 axes, not just one.
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Re: straight cut on pipe
Another vote for wraparound or a strip of emery cloth (which makes any size wrap you like and is great for sharpening your soap stone).
Ensure you get a "double wrap" because when wraparound lines up on itself it is straight. Keep it snug. That's what I used to mark hundreds of pipe coupons where I worked for manual torch cutting. It's fast and easy. To rotate the pipe while it's on jackstands, take a pipe wrench and run the jaws down so they are a bit loose on one wall of the pipe when slid on from the end. When you pull the pipe wrench they will catch and grab nicely. Go slowly! |
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Re: straight cut on pipe
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Re: straight cut on pipe
Pipe beveler cuts to length and cuts the bevel.
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Re: straight cut on pipe
Ive been fabricating, fitting, and welding the round stuff (pipe), for about 15 years now and I use a wrap-a-round to make a good square line, just my 2 cents
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BTW, wraparounds are made of quality gasket material, worth remembering if you need a gasket in an emergency or if you need a small wraparound and have gasket material handy.
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Re: straight cut on pipe
emiry cloth also works in a pinch for marking a straight cut on pipe!
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Re: straight cut on pipe
i've had success with shorter sections of large diameter pipe that are rough cut and need to be squared up......put it on a bench with the rough end down and square it to the bench with wedges or tack welds and then hold your chalk flat on a piece of box section and mark a line around the pipe above the rough cut.....
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Re: straight cut on pipe
BIG INCH Wrap around -
#179B Curv-O-Mark® Wrap-A-Rounds Ex. Large 9'
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Sounds strange but i've used a roll of wall paper before, The tube was about 36" in dia, Just wrap the paper round until it meets and chalk a line around the edge
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I use the hoist to lift it into the saw and let the saw do the cutting while I go make coffee.
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When your a welder, you have to think outside the box. Different things I've used when no "Wrap-A-Round" was available --- My belt, a roll of emery cloth, card board box, backing card board from a head gasket set, newspaper, string, and the list goes on.......... Thanks, Hobo
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Re: straight cut on pipe
I'm really amazed at how many people and even decent size fabrication companies that hand cut/ bevel pipe. I understand if you don't need a perfect cut, or only do a handfull of cuts a year, but I just can't imagine doing it on a daily basis without a beveling machine. It is a very good skill to have, to be able to hand cut and bevel, but from a production standpoint, it just doesn't make sense to me. I have beveling machines to handle 2" to 26", and if I'm working on pipe, I'm using one... I also have a motorized band beveling setup with larger bands than that, but have never used it. I think I have up to a 48" band for it. We bought that whole setup at an auction, and have never messed with it.
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