Not A Question But When To Say NO.

[killdozerd11]

Ouch Mr. Zap

Did you get up in a grouchy mood this morning ?

[ZTFab]

Originally Posted by killdozerd11

Ouch Mr. Zap

Did you get up in a grouchy mood this morning ?

No, InSaNeride ended up at the bottom of a few bottles last night and posted a bunch of gibberish...literally.

If you had seen/read the comments you would understand. Heck...just look at the number of posts he made!

[Mondo]

Hey Zap: Are you still employed at the same shop?

- Mondo

[zapster]

Originally Posted by Mondo

Hey Zap: Are you still employed at the same shop?

- Mondo

Yep

...zap!

[zapster]

Originally Posted by ZTFab

No, InSaNeride ended up at the bottom of a few bottles last night and posted a bunch of gibberish...literally.

If you had seen/read the comments you would understand. Heck...just look at the number of posts he made!

You got that right..
I had to go back and look at the nonsense this AM and if I was around last night when it was happening it would have been 2 for instigating ...10 Min Misconduct and a Game Misconduct
with no reservations..

...zap!

[killdozerd11]

Yes ZT i read his ramblings of his trip through the worm hole to another planet in a different dimension of time and space

And i don't question Zap's reaction or action to his posts

I would do the same and when insaneride reads what he posted while under the influence he may want to thank Zap for doing that just for the fact of saving himself from future embarrassment of people reading them

And thank you Zap

i have so far found you very tolerant and fair in your duty as a moderator

[ZTFab]

Originally Posted by killdozerd11

Ouch Mr. Zap

Did you get up in a grouchy mood this morning ?

Originally Posted by killdozerd11

And i don't question Zap's reaction or action to his posts

[zapster]

I get up grouchy every morning and question my reactions on a hourly basis..

...zap!

[zapster]

Originally Posted by killdozerd11

I would do the same and when insaneride reads what he posted while under the influence he may want to thank Zap for doing that just for the fact of saving himself from future embarrassment of people reading them

And thank you Zap

i have so far found you very tolerant and fair in your duty as a moderator

Thanks..
I just do what a Ref does in a hockey game..And go about the same protocol here..
People yap at each other all the time..Big deal..
It's when the uncalled for stuff happens I just step in and tell them to go back to the bench and take a breather..
There is always the next shift..

But when push comes to shove..
The penalty minutes add up.

And by the way..
SWells deleted all the trash..
Insane can thank him.


...zap!

[weldermike]

Originally Posted by zapster

I get up grouchy every morning and question my reactions on a hourly basis..

...zap!

X2 LOL, I Wake up an Ahole and slowly talk myself down as the morning goes.

[killdozerd11]

Don't mean to confuse you ZT

if you read something and we have a differing opinion of it = Reaction
some were offended by the posts
I read the ramblings of a drunken fool that was going to regret what he posted when he got sober ..Only those without sin can cast the first stone

I have said things while drunk that i wish i had not said and my friends also

You find that you or the mod want it deleted and can = Action
Some people can forgive and forget some cannot

[LayoutMan]

Being drunk on a forum haha, im a user of a bunch of forums and its the first times i see that

[Matt_Maguire]

Pretty good topic here Zap! In some form or other everyone seems to get here someday (the NO thing).

Sure enough tig through powder coat isn't gonna make it, but the first boo-boo in my opinion was the interruption of another job (for a whole bunch of reasons). To make it quick "if you wanna cut in line - it should cost you". That's all wrapped up in the "treating people as you would want them to treat you, which usually quiets things down for impatient folks.

All should agree with the standards of workmanship and process, however, many of the old hands here have faced the dilemma of not knowing if even the best effort will be good enough - or maybe not good at all. Something like plan A is in the works but we need you or your company to "plan B" till plan A gets here... Kinda like a fireman thing, sometimes the command says no you don't enter, sometimes everyone enters. Hard to sort that stuff out. If you go at things long enough you keep finding things that seem to challenge your best.

In the mid 80's on the advice of another I began to keep a daily journal, most days it's "situation normal job X" and that's all. Other entries may say "change order re:specs on turbine coupler by X @ GE 4:00pm per phone conversation". Big or little it's all there that needed to be - speeds, feeds, weld settings, tooling, conversations, INTERRUPTIONS... everything. The more detailed setups may take 15 minutes at the end of the day but have saved countless hours of re-thinking the same or similar jobs.

A daily diary or journal is considered contemporary notes if you ever get in a pinch, face legal troubles or go to arbitration. Once your journal is placed in evidence on discovery you are allowed to re-fresh your memory while giving testimony at any time (you don't get to quote it though).

Shame the thread wandered a bit...

Matt

[Warroad140]

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[70Challenger]

Originally Posted by weldermike

Alright, enough, its not a safety issue. It started off as a piece of crap weld, on some bad chinese steel. The issue on hand is that as a welder for a living I deal with this every day. Would you bring your car to get detailed after not cleaning it for 2yrs, and b!tch and moan that someone missed a smudge! Bottom line is people stink. You would not believe what people in flip flops and shorts bring me with rubber gloves and rags with there lazy azz kids. I'm rough, espescially what time of the day you catch me at but you either pay double for knowing better and choosing to think i'm an A hole, or just plain ol being an A hole! Even at my 9to5 job its even worse with guys that should know better!

Maybe not a safety issue if your in the vehicle that it could fall off of, however if your behind it on the highway especially on a motorcycle you may consider it a safety issue.

[weldermike]

Originally Posted by 70Challenger

Maybe not a safety issue if your in the vehicle that it could fall off of, however if your behind it on the highway especially on a motorcycle you may consider it a safety issue.

Thats not what I was getting at, but you are correct. My opening statement meant there built like garbage to begin with and a dirty weld would have been better than the original. The issue at hand was the bosses approach.

[stefuel]

OK, can we get back to ragging on the boss

I had another run-in with Mr spoiled rotten rich kid who wouldn't have two cents to rub together if his father didn't die and leave it to him.
He sent two guys out on a job on Monday that non of which was qualified to do. I had to go back the following day and spend 2-1/2 hours fixing it so that the customer (who already paid the bill) was happy and the companies reputation is salvaged. So today I get a phone call from the ******** complaining about the 2-1/2 hours I took to make it right.
I'm still scratching my head because I'm not sure who he's pissed at. Me or the guy he put in charge of the job. So I got back in his face and told him it certainly wasn't my fault and it wasn't the fault of the unqualified guys he sent to do the job. He was pinching pennies sending two lower payscale guys to do a job he bid on to make some extra money

[sn0border88]

So why didn't you just pick up the stinger yourself when the boss came over? If something needs to be done "NOW" with no prep work, that's what a versatile weldor should do.

[zapster]

Originally Posted by sn0border88

So why didn't you just pick up the stinger yourself when the boss came over? If something needs to be done "NOW" with no prep work, that's what a versatile weldor should do.

9 times out of 10 I would just ignore this question at this stage of the game..

But in your case I will make an exception..

Stukas was welding with the Tig..Not me..
Boss wanted HIM to weld it at first..

That's where I step in.

As far as just going to the other side of the shop and just doing the welding with the stick?..I have a lathe running and CAN NOT leave it alone on a finish pass that if it gets to vibrating for one second then you can call all that work wasted and a multi thousand dollar job JUNK in the blink of an eye.
In case you have not noticed in the past the TIG machine and the lathe are about 8 feet apart..
VERY easy to get from one to the other.
The stick machine is WAYYYYYY down on the other side of the shop.

What would you do?
You cant just shut down the lathe..Then the job IS junk.
I chose to watch this major $$$$$ job and stay put.
That's how this game is played.

Good enough for you?

...zap!