Pic I Stumbled Upon

[Doug247]

I was looking online at some websites that sell steel buildings. They had this pic that looked particularly unsafe, I had to take a second glance to make sure I wasnt seein things. Thought Id share it with you guys.

http://www.steelbuilding.com/media/photo_gallery_06.htm

[IamVince]

I hate to admit it but I've done worse.
He is probably safer working in a bucket then off of a ladder...more reach side to side.People are bad about reaching too far from a ladder.
Most company's and most likely OSHA want you tied off above 6'

[sidthss]

He could just have parts in the bucket that he is using. Easier and safer to bring a "table" up to you than to have to climb up and down the ladder a bunch of times with parts.

[h2oboy]

That isn't that bad, you should of seen my cousins putting up my shop, some of the pictures I had to delete off the camera out of shame. But I have to say, everyone went home, and atleast they felt safe, even if I didn't feel they where.
On a side note my uncle had no problem climbing up a power or telephone pole and standing on his head, on top of the pole, so I guess it is in THEIR blood, not mine though.

[spuddown]

Depends on whose eyes your looking through. OSHA would definetly have a problem with it. I've seen and done worse. We put up a new barn on the ranch when I was a kid. Loader wouldn't reach high enough so we loaded it backwards on a 2 ton flat bed and reached it fine. No one got hurt. Not even close.

[Boostinjdm]

I've had a step ladder on the roof of my skid loader before. Actually several times.... or in the back of the pick-up.

[Ryan5872]

It may not seem too bad for some (many) people.
However, who here would put a photo like that on their commercial website advertising their products?

[MX727]

I've used a bucket many times.

However, it's eye opening when you see a hydraulic line burst and watch how fast the bucket falls. Wasn't in it, just driving the loader across a field when it happened.

[Splat_NJ]

Originally Posted by MX727

However, it's eye opening when you see a hydraulic line burst and watch how fast the bucket falls. Wasn't in it, just driving the loader across a field when it happened.

Someone I know died from that exact thing happening. He was trying to cut down a tree in front of his house. The line blew and he fell out, cracked his head on the sidewalk leading out from the front porch. His 2-yr old son saw it happen, too. Sad stuff. He was a helluva good guy too. Sometimes I just can't figure things out.

[7A749]

Perfectly acceptable practice at most DIY jobsites.......

Not too bad actually. Up on a set of forks, 20 feet in the air, on a rickety old pallet is much more dangerous.....

[MarkBall2]

Dad & I re-roofed an old barn when I was a kid. Dad had an old Oliver 77 with a loader on it, ya know the one that bolts on behind the drive wheels & 20' hydraulic rams.

Anyway, the corrugated tin was in 2 sections, one 13' long, one 18' long. I was up on the ridge pulling the block & tackle to slide the tin up the roof, dad was on the other side helping pull.

The clamp slipped off one of the 18 footers, slid between the uprights on the fork bucket & slid about 10' onto the tractor. Sliced right through the muffler that was in it's way, before it cut through the hood right behind the fuel tank.

Glad we were both out of the way.

[DSW]

I wish I could find the picts of me and another guy standing in the bucket of the CAT 988 taking styro insulation off the walls of a building we were demoing. 4x8 sheets of styro and we still had 2 1/2 feet of bucket in front and 2 foot on each side of the pile. Top of the bucket was over 7'

Whole lot better than us trying to do that on 2 28' extension ladders 18' off the ground.

[DesertRider33]

I'd rather stand in a bucket than on top of a tall ladder any day.

[SR20steve]

Originally Posted by IamVince

I hate to admit it but I've done worse.
He is probably safer working in a bucket then off of a ladder...more reach side to side.People are bad about reaching too far from a ladder.
Most company's and most likely OSHA want you tied off above 6'

**** at my work its 4 feet now! And the worst part is if your caught above 4 feet without a harness your instantly fired, no warnings, no slaps on the wrist, your just walked to the gate. Its all a part of some Shell global "life saving rules" plan. Its complete BS.

[Cofe]

Originally Posted by SR20steve

**** at my work its 4 feet now! And the worst part is if your caught above 4 feet without a harness your instantly fired, no warnings, no slaps on the wrist, your just walked to the gate. Its all a part of some Shell global "life saving rules" plan. Its complete BS.

Yea go figure

Tieing off at 4' with 3' of lanyard doesn't make sense to me.

Then if you want to tie off properly you have to climb to 7' to tie off. Then you can't move very much because your lanyard is too tight.

So retractables are the best thing to use, but they are expensive.

[SR20steve]

Originally Posted by Cofe

Yea go figure

Tieing off at 4' with 3' of lanyard doesn't make sense to me.

Then if you want to tie off properly you have to climb to 7' to tie off. Then you can't move very much because your lanyard is too tight.

So retractables are the best thing to use, but they are expensive.

Exactly. And the whole 4 feet thing probably made some office puke look real good and justify his or her job for another 6 months, but in the real world there isn't always something to tie off to above your head, so making your lanyard worthless. And many of times even when Im tied off Im thinking to myself "If I was to fall I would probably be pretty effed up from hitting all the piped and obstructions on the way to my 3 foot fall".

The worst is what they do to our carpenter/scaffold builders they wear a harness 100% of the time and even have to maintain 100% tie off even climbing a ladder. Can you imagine standing at the base of a ladder then tying off a few rungs up, climbing up the ladder untill you've out traveled your lanyard then taking your hands off the ladder to grab your other lanyard to hook up above you head, then climbing down to unhook your first lanyard and just repeating over and over. So a ladder that took 10 seconds to climb now takes 3 minutes. All these rules seem like a great idea to someone who sits at a desk because they don't have to abide by them. Those pukes make me sick to my stomach, seriously.

[Doug247]

I totally forgot I started this thread lol.

[Burnit]

Originally Posted by Ryan5872

It may not seem too bad for some (many) people.
However, who here would put a photo like that on their commercial website advertising their products?

Thats what I was thinking. I am also guilty of doing worse, but I wouldn't put a picture of it on my business' web-site.

What was the guy thinking? LOL

The ad could say "And iffin' ya got a front end loader, crazy-*** steve will climb up there on the bucket 'n' we can get the up n down door put in like, really fast"

But like I said I've done worse. And probably will again.

[adam21584]

done worse,didnt advertise it though.

[salem747]

I have to tell you guys most miners work out of the scoop bucket, ladders r 4 chumps. Most of you won't know what a scoop is: http://www.cat.com/cda/layout?m=308835&x=7 The latest thing is to put a basket on a loader. The big safety issue with a scoop bucket is that it is HYPER smooth steel => very slippery.

[bigwhitebeast]

We've probably all done worse and will continue to do so but as for working out of a bucket, when I was in Maine there was a concrete plant up the road from where I worked and they had a company in to certify their scales I believe and they were using the bucket loader to get up to the scale used for loading the cement trucks and the driver hit the gas pedal instead of the brake or something like that and it killed one or two people that were in the bucket at the time, crushed them to death.

[Dualie]

I agree this safety stuff has gotten outta hand. I just walked off a job because it was so ridiculous with its safety that it was asinine. Safety meeting was @ 7 AM Tuesday. Anyone not in the gates and SIGNED IN @7 AM the gates were locked and they were sent home from the job permanently.

ANYONE caught removing their hard hat for ANY reason within the fence line of the job was immediately escorted to the gate not to return. Same with Safety Glasses, anyone caught removing them for ANY reason within the fence line was escorted off site not to return.

Any "Hot work" required 7 different forms and 4 separate signatures EVERY DAY! and a fire watch must be posted for 1.5 hours after all work is completed. It must be nice to have all this $$$$$$$ to waste for the sake of pretending to be safe when in reality all your doing its wasting your clients money for a cheep show.

[Aquafire]

The asinine rules are the direct result of lawsuits filed after previous workplace injuries, often from employees that knew the risks and knew how to mitigate them.

It's simple business sense: It's far cheaper to make stringent rules, enforce them strictly and spend money on safety equipment/programs than it is to pay out one lost-life settlement.

[MarkBall2]

Yeap, much cheaper for workers comp insurance & liability insurance. And if the safety rules are enforced - no exceptions - lives & body parts will be saved.

[CheneyKid]

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