Pic I Stumbled Upon

[wesdavidson]

Had a friend that was putting together a building, the inspector wanted a tie off before he would inspect the joints, so they gave him one, 20 feet off the ground, the inspector didn't add up that a 40 foot rope wouldn't have helped much.

Safety is good, but a rule against wiping the sweat off your glasses, or requiring you to take your hands off the ladder, those can cause problems as well.

Recently the refineries around Salt Lake City have has some accidents. Basicly caused by people not doing things right. Seems like new owners, overworked experienced people, too many new folks with no idea why and how to do things, aging plants.

Hot permits are all well and good, if the folks signing them have the knowledge to know what they are doing. Rules can be downright deadly if the bosses are lacking.

[William McCormick Jr]

You think that picture is bad, check out this idiot. I want to nominate him for Jackass.com

http://www.Rockwelder.com/WMV/Blackpipe1.WMV

That is two ladders tied together with rope. Ha-ha. There is more but he would probably be very embarrassed if I posted it. It does look as if there is a slight resemblance between him and myself. But don't let that mislead you.


Sincerely,


William McCormick

[A_DAB_will_do]

Safety rules are always an annoyance, until you get bitten. (Yes I think requiring a harness for anything over 4' is rediculous. 8 or 10 feet is more reasonable and you should have a harness and lanyard that work before you hit the ground)

Standing in a loader bucket is a small risk with a big penalty. Gamble if you wish.

I used to think most of the safety rules, like equipment inspections and such, were a waste of time.

A fellow I worked with, named Paul, was just killed last year in a scissors lift. The deadman's pedal switch wasn't working. He was up high in a pipe rack welding. As he reached out over the lift railing his fall harness lanyard snagged the lift joystick. The lift elevated and crushed him between the railing and some pipe in the rack. The injuries weren't immediately fatal. He bled out in the hospital a few days after the accident, due to damage to his internal organs.

The lift should have been tagged out of service; but it was the equipment they had for the job, so they used it anyway. He gambled and lost.

Life is full of risks, and I'm not suggesting that you can live life and avoid all risk. But you should be working to manage life's risks and make them as small as possible.

Just my $0.02.

[William McCormick Jr]

We were at a school, insulating the backs of fresh air louver cans. We were in one of those diesel telescoping boom lifts. You figure what could be safer?

Oh my God, we were going under a school walkway, and the fellow I was with, hits the boom switch the wrong way by mistake, we were going about twenty miles an hour, and all I see is the walkway coming at me. Ha-ha. The reason this happened is because the switches are often backwards to what I like to think is common sense. And with the delay they have in them, by the time you see movement and figure out which way the movement is going, it is close to being too late.

I had no harness I was about to jump. Then I felt it go down. Ha-ha.

The relays have a time delay on and a time delay off on them. The most insane idea I had ever seen put into production. When you hit the boom switch for say, two seconds, nothing happens, then the boom moves. When you go to put the boom down you have to wait like two seconds for it to go down. The same with the extend and retract of the boom.

The controls are so un-American in my opinion that someone is surely going to get hurt. I use a lot of different equipment. And I can tell you we are never not surprised by some of the new zany ways you have to operate that stuff.

A lot of the equipment is like the new kids joy sticks. It is backwards compared to the way we older guys are used to using controls.

Sincerely,


William McCormick

[hwstem]

I can't say that I haven't done that to hookup pulleys for hanging deer but working with power tools up there is really not smart and not the best thing for a company to put up on their site. There are a lot safe way to go about laying track.

[w4hyi]

If u think that is unsafe look at this

[burnandreturn]

I was in the bucket of our tractor welding cable ties on the uprights on our indoor arena about 15 feet in the air. I had a friend of mine running the tractor and bucket. So I am welding and I feel the bucket start to tip. I flip my hood and my friend is on his cell phone leaning on the joystick to the bucket not paying any attention to me in the bucket. The bucket tips all the way down with me hanging off the top edge of the bucket. Tractor running and he doesn't hear me yelling at him. He looks up I guess and sees me hanging. Actually he only saw my legs. This guy is real cool. He hangs up and then uses his cell phone to take a picture of me hanging off the bucket! Then he tips me back up. He wouldn't let me down until I agreed not to kick his butt.

[dugndeep]

I hate to say this......forklift fully extended,standing on the very top of the forks pointing vertical as far as they would go installing metal halide lights in a steel helicopter storage building we were erecting at almost 20 foot with no safety equipment what-so-ever,so stupid or me in the bucket of a trackhoe getting spun around till I am sick and then being dumped out on a pile of dirt while everybody was laughing while I was throwing my guts up......the reason for me being in the bucket-installing lights on poles in a soon-to-be parking lot

[Metarinka]

Originally Posted by SR20steve

**** at my work its 4 feet now! And the worst part is if your caught above 4 feet without a harness your instantly fired, no warnings, no slaps on the wrist, your just walked to the gate. Its all a part of some Shell global "life saving rules" plan. Its complete BS.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/30/business/30labor.html

that's the reason a lot of the oil companies are clamming up on safety. It doesn't just cost lifes, it costs millions of dollars in damage too.

safety rules can be a little over the top at times, but they do save lifes and money and make the cost of business go down if done right. That's the thing if all the safety devices and rules work no one ever sees their effects because no one gets hurt, and then people start thinking they are just there to be an annoyance.

I've seen a few coworkers die. I take safety seriously now and I'm not afraid to walk off or shutdown sites if need be. It's not hte first option, but I do what I have to.

[DSW]

The thing is that huge fine probably won't make a dent in the long term budget of BP. They'll do what all large cooperations do, raise prices to cover the cost and bump it to add some profit. Meanwhile some desk bureaucrat gets a big pat on the back for bringing in more money for the feds to waste. It's a different story when its a small business that doesn't have the resources and clout to set prices, but for a company this size, it's all part of doing business, even if they don't like to have to shell out the money.

[METALiculous]

when he falls they can just scope him up with the loader

[METALiculous]

Originally Posted by Dualie

I agree this safety stuff has gotten outta hand. I just walked off a job because it was so ridiculous with its safety that it was asinine. Safety meeting was @ 7 AM Tuesday. Anyone not in the gates and SIGNED IN @7 AM the gates were locked and they were sent home from the job permanently.

ANYONE caught removing their hard hat for ANY reason within the fence line of the job was immediately escorted to the gate not to return. Same with Safety Glasses, anyone caught removing them for ANY reason within the fence line was escorted off site not to return.

Any "Hot work" required 7 different forms and 4 separate signatures EVERY DAY! and a fire watch must be posted for 1.5 hours after all work is completed. It must be nice to have all this $$$$$$$ to waste for the sake of pretending to be safe when in reality all your doing its wasting your clients money for a cheep show.

THey can have all the safety they want I am still getting paid. And if it takes that long it takes that long ...not a minute sooner.

[William McCormick Jr]

The problem I see is that there are no arced gussets. Ha-ha.


Sincerely,


William McCormick

[Donald Branscom]

TRUE STORY.

I was driving down the street from my house and I saw a person filling a car from a gas can while he was smoking a cigarette! I really wish I had a photo.

And yes the cigarette WAS lit.

[William McCormick Jr]

We used to do that. The cigarettes rarely start the gas fumes on fire. As kids we used to try to light gas with a cigarette, very hard to do. A little static ARC it will go.

Most people do not know that Benjamin Franklin and America stands for the fact that a static spark and a lightning bolt are of the exact same voltage. That is why static electricity is so dangerous. The nice thing about static is the volume or possible wattage it delivers. It is usually low. But they had trouble in the electronics industry, as some of their boards could store this voltage with a little bit of capacitance.

Benjamin Franklin got rid of the ritual of small children ringing church bells during lightning storms to ward off lighting. With his lightning rod. A lot of those were killed. At first all the scientists laughed at him, when he said that he could repel a lightning bolt with the voltage or pressure, of static electricity. Later they gave him the Copley Award. The highest scientific award on earth.

Later we actually misunderstood his lightning rod again, when we misunderstood the cathode ray.

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Benjamin Franklin was a master of points and flats. So much so that he was able to show conclusively with ordinary metal objects, which way electricity was flowing in any given situation. He is so misunderstood today.

Right now even in very high tech super corporations. Only a handful of employees actually understand how things work. The rest use a complex backwards set of symbols and codes to assemble things.

Sincerely,


William McCormick

[AJM]

Originally Posted by William McCormick Jr

The problem I see is that there are no arced gussets. Ha-ha.


Sincerely,


William McCormick

lolol