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[loolagigi]

ok i have a older syncrowave 250 non dx, a wp20 watercooled torch, and a old radiator 1 water cooler. i am really lost when it comes to getting everything hooked up. both female in and outs on the cooler are reverse thread, but the 2 small torch male fitting are diff. one is reverse ones regular. now, the right side of the machine theres a "post" that has 2 females. the one on the left is larger and fits my large torch make fitting, and on the right shows a small female fitting that maybe one of my small torch male fittings go to. maybe someone could help me via telephone.

sorry for the stupidity. please help, thanks Joe

[7A749]

Ok. You have three fittings on your TIG torch.

1: Water IN. This is the SMALL, Left handed threaded fitting. This goes to the coolant OUT on the radiator.

2: Water RETURN This is the LARGE left handed threaded fitting. This connects to the brass block on the neg terminal of the machine. Only one hole it will go in. This line also houses the power cable inside it which carries weld current to the tungsten electrode in the torch. It absolutely, under NO circumstances can be run without coolant. It will cause permanent, immediate damage to the torch & line.

3: Gas line. This connects to the OUT fitting on the gas solenoid on the machine. This will be the RIGHT side if you are facing it.

You will need two more hoses. One will be the GAS IN, which will go from the flow meter on the Argon cylinder to the IN fitting on the gas solenoid on the machine. This will be the LEFT side fitting if you are facing it.

The other is WATER OUT. This connects with two left handed fittings. One FROM the coolant IN fitting on the radiator to the other threaded hole on the brass block on the machine.

You essentially make a closed circuit for the coolant to run, going FROM the cooler OUT side, thru the torch, back from the torch TO the brass block on the NEG terminal of the machine, OUT the small hose going out of the brass block, back to the IN side of the cooler.

Gas flows FROM the flow meter at the cylinder, TO the solenoid, which is opened & closed by a timed relay circuit, out of the solenoid TO the TIG torch & out of the end of the torch to provide shielding gas around the molten weld pool.

Hope that explains it.

[7A749]

You can set up the radiator so it is plugged into the 115 aux plug inside the door where your terminals & gas solenoid are.

Radiator style coolers have been known to leak. I would NOT recommend placing it on top of the TIG machine. You may need to purchase additional hoses for gas & water return to cooler. You can get them made up quite reasonably at any weld supply.

You will also want to check your HF points for an .008 gap & clean. The owners manual will explain in detail how to do this. No point typing it all out.

Good luck with it.

[7A749]

Oh, do post up how you make out.

Looks like a blind man painted that machine. Noticed all the non-matching new "Miller" blue overspray inside the connection panel.

No big deal. I'm just kinda anal about stuff like that If you did it, not bashing. I just like things done correctly, that's all.

I would also give it a good blowing out if possible. Please use correct Miller or other brand coolant for the Radiator. Automotive antifreeze is just plain bad news for these types of cooling systems.

[loolagigi]

Originally Posted by 7A749

Ok. You have three fittings on your TIG torch.

1: Water IN. This is the SMALL, Left handed threaded fitting. This goes to the coolant OUT on the radiator.

2: Water RETURN This is the LARGE left handed threaded fitting. This connects to the brass block on the neg terminal of the machine. Only one hole it will go in. This line also houses the power cable inside it which carries weld current to the tungsten electrode in the torch. It absolutely, under NO circumstances can be run without coolant. It will cause permanent, immediate damage to the torch & line.

3: Gas line. This connects to the OUT fitting on the gas solenoid on the machine. This will be the RIGHT side if you are facing it.

You will need two more hoses. One will be the GAS IN, which will go from the flow meter on the Argon cylinder to the IN fitting on the gas solenoid on the machine. This will be the LEFT side fitting if you are facing it.

The other is WATER OUT. This connects with two left handed fittings. One FROM the coolant IN fitting on the radiator to the other threaded hole on the brass block on the machine.

You essentially make a closed circuit for the coolant to run, going FROM the cooler OUT side, thru the torch, back from the torch TO the brass block on the NEG terminal of the machine, OUT the small hose going out of the brass block, back to the IN side of the cooler.

Gas flows FROM the flow meter at the cylinder, TO the solenoid, which is opened & closed by a timed relay circuit, out of the solenoid TO the TIG torch & out of the end of the torch to provide shielding gas around the molten weld pool.

Hope that explains it.

lol, ok lemme see...

1: left handed small fitting from torch goes to coolant out on the radiator.

2: large fitting from torch goes to brass block, only place it can go.

3: the last torch fitting goes on the gas out fitting on machine.

4: from tank to flowmeter green line goes to in brass gas fitting on machine.


then im lost. sorry. stupid i said, lol

[duaneb55]

Originally Posted by 7A749

Looks like a blind man painted that machine. Noticed all the non-matching new "Miller" blue overspray inside the connection panel.

No big deal. I'm just kinda anal about stuff like that If you did it, not bashing. I just like things done correctly, that's all.

I agree 100% Steve. 19 out of 20 SA-200s get painted without even so much as masking off the faceplate. Makes them look like crap.

[loolagigi]

Originally Posted by duaneb55

I agree 100% Steve. 19 out of 20 SA-200s get painted without even so much as masking off the faceplate. Makes them look like crap.

easy easy, i gatta paint the black still.

[7A749]

Originally Posted by loolagigi

lol, ok lemme see...

1: left handed small fitting from torch goes to coolant out on the radiator.

2: large fitting from torch goes to brass block, only place it can go.

3: the last torch fitting goes on the gas out fitting on machine.

4: from tank to flowmeter green line goes to in brass gas fitting on machine.


then im lost. sorry. stupid i said, lol

No, you got it. Gas goes from flow meter to solenoid.

I think you may be missing the additional hose to go from the brass block, back to the cooler. Gotta have that to make it work. It's a simple closed circuit, going from the cooler pump, thru the torch, back to the cooler via that brass block. Water flows FROM the cooler, thru the torch & Out thru the block & hose BACK TO the cooler

I'll talk to you tomorrow if you can't get it figured out.

[7A749]

Originally Posted by duaneb55

I agree 100% Steve. 19 out of 20 SA-200s get painted without even so much as masking off the faceplate. Makes them look like crap.

Yeah, don't even get me going on paint jobs

Not too hard to do a good job if you take your time.